When I read about Justin having another son, I was like:
Then, I thought to myself...is it really relevant? Hmmm:
I couldn't decide whether I should cry:
Or just laugh:
I'm still really confused:
Instead of letting it bother me:
I'm just going to chuckle at Jeffrey's latest attempt to change the subject...
So what, Justin has another son? Trista does too! (hello!) Their respective sons are not missing, and have just as much to do with this case as Andrew Gifford does. (Thought I'd mention him since we're bringing up lost/neglected sons). It's also ironic to say that Justin is keeping DHHS workers employed, when we KNOW that Trista is the one who had Ayla removed from her care, and we KNOW that Jessica has had her children taken as well. Care to add anyone you know to the list Tori? Hmmmm...
Lastly, Justin is said to be unaware of how many children he has. The ONLY reason Trista knows how many children she has is because they must exit her vagina to enter the world. No amount of drunkenness will let you forget that something popped out of there. She can't get high enough to forget she has kids, but she was obviously high enough to forget to take care of them. That's a fact, according to me.
Anyway, I'm Seeking Truth aka Obscure aka JSTL and I approved this message! Good day, folks...
Pictures courtesy of this amazing person...
Final edit: Removed the pics/link. Sorry Anthony Nigro, thank you for being a good sport though!
Final edit: Removed the pics/link. Sorry Anthony Nigro, thank you for being a good sport though!
Hilarious. Thanks for a good belly laugh. Pun intended.
ReplyDeleteObscure, you should apply for a job as a comedy writer at Saturday Night Live. I think you are a very good writer, and you really excel in your humor. You make me laugh a lot. Thank you.
DeleteNo thanks, I'll stick to my day job. Which according to Tori, is milking the government. LOL, but thanks
DeleteOMG. I just realized the hideous clown in the photos is Anthony Nigro, Tori's boyfriend! Even more hilarious!
ReplyDeleteWhat is really hilarious is that person is not Tori's boyfriend, just someone else who happens to have the same name.
DeleteLOL I doubt it, but even if true, it's still funnnnnny!
Deletelol Thanks for the laugh, Obscure. I needed it. :D
DeleteOh, selena, you have plenty to laugh about it seems, and you need more?
DeleteWhen reading this post, I first thought you had finally released your identity !
ReplyDeleteOmg I haven't laughed this hard in a long time! Thanks for the humor :)
ReplyDeleteMy husband doesn't follow Ayla's case on line at all. When he and I got together after work I said, "hey! I'm pissed! Justin didn't tell me he has another kid!" Him: "what?? sooo...?" Me: "don't you care?" Him: "uh, no." Me: "Buttt, he didn't tell ME he has another child??" Him: "Maybe it's none of your frickin' business." Me: "Ya know what else? Since the news about there being blood in the house was released NOT ONCE has Justin defended himself by saying that 'some' of it was Trista's." Him: "Again, he probably thought it's none of your business." I protested that I've been following this case on line for a few months now and he countered I wasn't employed by LE, and I had to concede.
ReplyDeletelol Cant argue that!
Deleteohhh, I'm not done with him yet, Selena... when he gets home I'm going to call him a "DiP supporter" and an "apologist"... if that doesn't work I'm going to accuse him of secretly being the JSTL blogger... and then I may throw in he's a "Justin fangirly"... if all that doesn't work I'll ask him when the last time was he knocked boots with Justin.
Deletelol It is getting that ridiculous. o.O
Delete"I'm just going to chuckle at Jeffrey's latest attempt to change the subject".
ReplyDeleteThat is exactly how I felt when I learned that it was Jeff who supplied this information to Tori.
He wants all this irrelevant crap out there, but doesn't want to put his name on it at
Accusations 4 Ayla.
He's a loving, caring grandfather, my butt.
If you actually read the blog, Jeff confirmed. Tori had already seen comments about him having a son. She posted about those comments. Then Jeff confirmed. So quick to blame Jeff when things come out that don't make look Justin look good.
DeleteI did read the blog.
DeleteI know how it appeared.
You have your opinions, and I have mine.
When you can't argue the facts, your only defense is to make fun of the person delivering those facts. This blog is hilarious alright because it makes you look weaker and less significant by the day obscure. Now that is entertaining :)
ReplyDeleteI didn't make fun of anyone. I think I delivered the facts, as I see them, in the most appropriate way I could.
DeleteThanks for the feedback. If you could see the look on my face, you would be able to tell how much of a damn I don't give! O_o
And yet it's entertaining. And you are reading & responding.
DeleteIronic much?
Yes it is entertaining watching the downfall of this blog because it is so hateful towards a lot of people for no reason. Obscure is jealous she doesnt get any significant news like the other blogs so she creates drama and spreads hate about those bloggers to get attention. I also happen to enjoy studying psychology and human behavior, such as seeing obscure making fake identities to create a "look" of popularity lol. Clearly I cant come here for anything Ayla related anymore since she never cares about that. I guess that makes me a Trista supporter too in her book. You could say I enjoy psychology as much as obscure enjoys studying criminal justice and the law. Except I am sane.
DeleteObscure is jealous, yes. I would love to be an uneducated mother of 2 who can only raise 1, and I would also love to be a criminal who commits crimes with my partner while the aforementioned children are left to fend for themselves or are pawned off on other people. I feel like I am almost there in life, so of course I'm jealous of people who have what I want. Can you blame me???
Delete"Obscure is jealous she doesnt get any significant news like the other blogs"
DeleteLOL Now that there is funny
Anonymous- I personally know, in real life, 5 other people that read and post here. Do the math? Odds are you're quite wrong. I don't know the blogger, but appreciate their direct way of taking on the wild elements of this case. So do my friends. I know, facts that disagree with your take on things are hard to swallow. So do what you do, and brush it off as a lie. That’s okay, I can accept the weaknesses of others.
Delete• It's really wild to see people like you, anon, say that this blogger is just spreading hate and creating drama. It is ironic because if you like psychology, you are textbook. :) There is much that you're missing, and you should take a break and do some naval gazing for a little while if you want to maximize your studies. Why? Because you are WAY off base. This blogger came along after a handful of *others* did what you're accusing him/her of, and were making life miserable for some innocent people. They (including your blessed mother Tori) were ripping the reputations of others to shreds by using lies and twisting their words out of context, while also attributing intent and motive to these people they didn't even KNOW. Those lies and opinions of THOSE bloggers started being roundly accepted as the truth. Do you have any idea how upsetting that was to those people that TORI did that to? She and her friends were the beginning of this whole bashing mess. And they are utterly at peace with their choices. Obviously- because they continue to do it.
Give it up Obscure. What are you going to say when Ayla is found and it all leads back to Justin, whether she is alive or dead. Just curious? Will you apologize or make up another blog on how it was still Trista.
DeleteGive it up Steph. It will never happen. Justin has nothing to do with Ayla's disappearance! Just curious? Will you apologize when Trista is found out to be involved in her child's disappearance? Or, will you keep posting that it was still Justin?
Deletesigned: getrealpeople
Might be my favorite post so far :)
ReplyDeleteAgreed! I haven't laughed this hard in a while. Tori is such a LOSER!!!!!!
DeleteEvangeline- while I really dislike everything that Tori has done, and I question her integrity and motives to a large degree, (despite her little cheering squad's participation in daily praise and worship hours)- I would ask that you rethink the simple name calling. I'm not even against outlining what she's said that is wrong/stupid/illogical and calling it that. But just the flat out calling her a loser doesn't reflect well on those of us that are here. I mean let's face it. The majority of her "followers" are thiefs, druggies, and criminals just like her who toss around vulgar language like it's high brow discussion. And most of the people here are educated and inherantly have a certain amount of poise both in life and on the internet. That's undeniable and you can't go back with a magic eraser and remove the core of that group. They are what they are. Let their actions be their own label. They've cultivated a self congratulatory club that makes them quite unaware of what the rest of the world sees about them.
DeleteWhen are Jeff and Co. going to back off the diversion tactics and focus on finding Ayla? Oh wait that is the point of the diversion tactics they do not want Ayla found.
ReplyDeleteBINGO!
DeleteWHAT ABOUT AYLA? Seriously .. you come HERE to get Ayla news? I think you should be asking yourself "what about Ayla?"
DeleteHey Obscure/JSTL, your writing style & sense of humor are both so much like mine that it shocks me at times. I can see why people think we're all you talking to yourself. Maybe. I. AM. You.... O.o
ReplyDeleteO.o
Deleteomg...its still funny the second time around!
DeleteYep, pretty darn good.
DeleteMichelle
DeleteAre you sure you meant to write Obscure? Im thinking you meant to write MICHAELA!!!! How about it JSTL care to tell us yet who you are before LE does?
"care to tell us yet who you are before LE does"?
DeleteLOL
Yeah, because LE gives a crap about a blogger. If they did care what the bloggers said, Tori would be locked up already. NO ONE cares except Tori. Probably because the truth hurts. I know how you can make it stop, Tori. Are you ready for this?? Here's the answer- JUST STOP THE LIES. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA When the lies stop, Ayla will be found and all the "innocent" parties will be able to go about their lives.
DeleteWhy does it vex you so that you don't know the identity of JSTL? You are like a child who just has to know & throws a little temper tantrum when mommy says you don't need to know. Poor wittle bèbè. LOL!
DeleteThis is yet another example of diversion from the truth. The truth is that the residents of the state of maine as well as all interested parties are entitled to a sit down pow-wow on cue when requested. Justin has a missing daughter. And instead of sitting around (-working a job and working at efforts he believes will locate Ayla)... he should be dressing up in Ayla gear throwing parties and tossing accusations to the wind (and the media). He should be making off the wall comments like "I'm heading to Aylas wake". Or "i just want closure because it's already been 7 weeks!" Or "3 menstrual cycles and a period" or "I was asleep riding through waterville the week before christmas on my way to visit my arsonist fiance when my sister who was staying at my seedy motel home reached my eventual father in law and ironically the husband of an arsonist (perfectly matched!) And told me my daughter was missing. What? Oh yes that is a funny coincidence since i am always in portland because i never ever have transportation elsewhere. Like, because this time i was right in her area when she went missing. But i totally got to that area like hours after she disappeared. Ask my lawless druggie of a sister. She'll like vouch for me. "
ReplyDeleteJustin should be clearing things up for the self proclaimed detectives who are SO awesome at their jobs that they are blind to the twisted statements from Trista. I'm quite sure if he were answering their irrelevant questions they would listen reasonably and the end result would be a solved case. Talking to the media always results in a solved case.
Oh. Wait. Actually it always results in media ratings and "highs" across the board for crime solving enthusiasts. Probably not a solved case. But hey, justin should at least appease the adoring public who has such good and true intentions. Lol.
GREAT POST.
DeleteAgreed.
DeleteI'll second that! GREAT POST
Deletesigned: getrealpeople
derek, are you concerned for aylas well being?
Delete@Is Ayla safe
DeleteWhy on earth would you ask Derek a question like that? Who isn't concerned for Ayla's safety? Someone who has Ayla hidden away some where could panic. What lengths would someone go to to cover their own butts. I mean look at what people are accusing the father of. Why not someone who hid her. Why do people think one person is capable of harming a child but another no way. I think the answer to your question is of course Derek is concerned for Ayla. As is the entire Nation.
I would like to hear from Aylas family. I find it disturbing when I do not hear how worried they are. derek is not the first one I have asked this of
DeleteLOL....couldn't stop laughing (sorry Tori)...
ReplyDeleteIt amazes me how this stuff about him having another kid with anothr mother is used to make Justin look more like a bad father, adding fuel to the fire burning under him. Well maybe it shouldnt amaze me, if he wore a blue shirt on a Friday it would be because he was a bad father. I also see red when someone uses the fact that he has kids with more than one person, and boo hooing about how he treated Trista by sleeping with her when supposedly with Courtney. Seems what is good for goose is good for gander. Trista has two under two, and some rumors say a bun in the oven. The feminist me says, we as women have complete control over whether we get pregnant or not. Never rely on the man to assume that responsibility. There is no way a woman in Maine in the 21st century doesnt have the knowledge and access to be in control of that. Justin is no saint but I cant see him as the devil incarnate either. Sorry for the rambles, this just burned my butt
ReplyDeleteI have to admit that I was hoping all day for a post about Justin's alleged illegitimate son. When I first read about this, I was trying to figure out if it did matter and the only way I could even possibly apply this was that maybe Trista was jealous to find out that Justin had another family opportunity other than her and Ayla and Ray jr. Turns out if this is true, he has all kinds of options to be a dad or dad figure. The best part is it doesn't appear that any of these women are running from Justin. He must be quite a guy ;) Trista is still talking about her desire to be a family with him (texts and 3 sexual encounters and a period. oh and "just talk to me!"), Courtney is still hanging around and clearly thinks he's ok (she thinks he's a stud ;)) and as far as we know the other alleged mom hasn't filed any restraining orders or such. Hmmmmm Justin- super dad and highly sought out partner to raise children with. Yup. That's him.
DeleteI like rambles!
DeleteI'm not sure Obscure will post this, but I don't think JD is the devil incarnate either. I think he is a bully with a bad temper who didn't have a clue that a toddler wouldn't always do exactly what he said.
DeleteI also think that if he would come out and just answer the questions everyone has, his credibility would improve dramatically.
The only reason this other child is of significance IMO is that JD supporters have been using the defense that JD only wanted a chance to be a good father to Ayla. What about this other child? Did he buy a life insurance policy for this 2nd child?
Come on Justin. Just answer some questions yourself.
Justin did answers questions. Look up the interviews. And the statements. He answers the most important question. And each time asks for the safe return of his live child. All without bashing the child's other parent. Can you say that once about any of Tristas many interviews? What good are all those interviews if she presents to the public that she the mother has no faith in her child being alive? Why then should the public even look for this child? So answer you own question who looks like the good parent? The one who wants the public to look for their child. The one who has not given up ever. The one who will not come out and answer questions , and name call & start a public war with the child's other parent. Or the one who has given up right at the start. Watch the very first interview, and is willing to use the child's dad to sway public opinion to get them to do the same. Don't believe re watch every interview. Check the time lines against facts. Things do not add up for a reason. So why do it? Why has this family worked so hard right from the start to sway public opinion? I think people are generally pretty smart but also their hearts get in the way and when they think I child is being abused they have a hard time seeing through that. Stop and think about this without the abuse. If that were not true. How would this then appear? Then ask yourself where did the abuse reports come from? Were they ever verified? Followed up? They said they were. How come police do not acknowledge that? DHHS does not acknowledge that. Why do they say somethings happened but no one else has record or followed up on it. Why did they not go and get Ayla. There was no custody order in place. DHHS had not placed her with Justin only verified to police so he could pick her up. So why didn't Trista go and get her. Go visit her? You can get a pretty quick court order to get child back if there is suspected abuse also. Why was none of that done. Answer these questions for yourself. And then think if there was possibly a chance that there WAS NO abuse how would this all look to then. Why would a person want to convince you there was?
DeleteI totally agree with you, Maine-iac. I don't think that he's evil or satan himself either. But I have my opinion about his involvement, based on everything I've seen and heard from both "sides" and many places.
DeleteI don't even like Trista, and I do think Justin is a douche. I roll my eyes when people gush about how either of them are so wonderful and loving and responsible, because both of them have shown shitty parenting skills and have proven themselves to be irresponsible. Just because I believe in the guilt of one doesn't mean that I idealize the other. I don't know or understand why people tend to do that, but I don't do it.
The only person who deserves to be unconditionally supported is Ayla. She needs all of us on her team, not blindly defending and crusading for one of her parents. They can defend themselves. Ayla can't defend herself.
Why are you putting a pic of an innocent child on here,when you complain about other people doing it?Think of the baby please.
ReplyDelete@Jay
DeleteReally! Trista has "Lil Ray" present in every interview she does. "Think of the baby please" Trista.
OT. Why did Trista have a big pillow (couch cushion?) in her lap during her latest interview. Not trying to be be rude here, but really! Is making babies the only way this woman can support herself. She is so distraught about losing her daughter she goes out and gets pregnant again? She can't eat, she can't sleep, but "maybe" she can get pregnant again? How does anybody find any credibility in this woman?
signed: getrealpeople
Anonymous said: "Really! Trista has "Lil Ray" present in every interview she does. "Think of the baby please" Trista."
DeleteThere is a huge difference between a mother who knowingly has her baby present during a mainstream media interview, (Trista), and someone posting a picture on an internet blog of someone's child without the mother or father's permission. Just because an individual has issues with another blogger, it is pretty tasteless to post pictures of their minor children. I read a post on here in which someone even made a derogatory comment about the child's looks. That is pretty pathetic and says a lot about the person who made the comment.
2nd anon - I learned a valuable bit of information from J4A some weeks ago... an image on facebook's cover photos aren't protected. I thank her for that; I now use a generic cover.
DeleteI didn't see the derogatory comment you are referring to. I think the child is adorable. Prayers for Ayla and all of the other beautiful, precious children we've been introduced to through her.
For anyone who's interested, FOX News at 10 is having a segment about Ayla with Trista.
ReplyDeleteSorry, but not to confuse anyone, but I should have put the local FOX channel out of Portland, not the Fox news network. Again, sorry.
DeleteI just saw a picture of the Tudela couple on Tori Gifford's blog. I must say that they are a very handsome couple. They look refined, educated and well to do. The glamorous couple, their mansion, their sophistication... oh, how that must *get* to the no class Tori.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't call them wealthy, but they are definitely classy & quite nice, normal people with morals. And yes, unlike Tori.
DeleteC'mon, if someone put a picture of the Fortiers up you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them and the Tudelas. Oh, nevermind, the Fortiers aren't relevant. It doesn't matter if one of them was driving through Waterville with Trista around the time Ayla went missing. The only focus should be the 3 in the house, Phoebe, Lance, the Tudela family, and Justin's uncle Larry - the W10. Considering other possibilities wouldn't be prudent.
Deleteclassy? educated? They look like a couple stuck in the 80's. People with real money have enough to update their look. If you were to frequent any location were you were to find those with mondy, they would not look like this.
DeleteIf one thinks that the Tudela's pictures on Facebook are an example of "refined", "classy", "educated", and "well to do", I suggest that you venture out of your backyard in the northern woods.... It is obvious that they are socioeconomically middle-class. It certainly doesn't take a college degree to sell insurance or operate home daycare either. Wealth is really relative; it has a lot to do with what geographical area of the country that one lives in. For example, the cost of their property in Waterville, Maine wouldn't buy you a shoebox in San Diego, CA, New York City, NY, Seattle, WA, or Portland, OR. Just sayin'....
DeleteI thought they were a nice looking couple too.
DeleteI personally don't think it matters how wealthy, or educated they may be, or not. They seem to be very nice, caring people, and that's all that matters. They opened their home to a family in need, at a most horrific time for them. They offered Justin a place to stay for a short time, and their friendship & trust.
I do not understand how anyone can fault with that. It is just ridiculous the stuff that has been said about these people.
S: My response was to:
DeleteI just saw a picture of the Tudela couple on Tori Gifford's
blog. I must say that they are a very handsome couple. They
look refined, educated and well to do. The glamorous couple,
their mansion, their sophistication... oh, how that must
*get* to the no class Tori.
I don't believe that it matters how wealthy or educated the Tudela's are either. The point of my post was that it is ridiculous to judge someone's wealth or education based on a description of their home and pictures on Facebook. I don't personally know the Tudela family, and it sounds like you don't either. I would never judge a book by it's cover. The most normal and nice looking person could be evil incarnate--look at Ted Bundy. I am not going to pass judgment on the Tudela family either way because I do not know them personally.
At Anonymous if you are going to try to refute classy and educated people. Please learn how to spell and write in complete sentences yourself. Then maybe your opinion would hold a little bit of value here.
DeleteAnd to Anonymous #2 the Tudela's live in Maine. Who cares what the cost of their property is worth in other states.
And lastly why are you all so stuck on whether they are wealthy or not. Seems like it matters more than you say. Wealth should not matter at all when it comes to judging people. That is so sad. Says a lot about you either way.
Tori's boyfriend is homely and odd looking. He could get a job in Hollywood playing a character actor. Unfortunately the child looks just like him.
ReplyDeleteIt's nice the other Anthony was a good sport. I wonder if he remembered the woman who added him because she thought he was her boyfriend. Anyway, maybe he got a couple new fans from the mix-up.
ReplyDeleteBwahahahha.........TG IS THE MORAL COMPASS TO ALL THAT'S correct/incorrect in the world!
ReplyDeleteWhat a joke it turned out to be!
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Are you having fun yet gigglely little selena. Probably having more fun with Ayla being missing than you have had in a long time, disgusting. Don't you realize how inappropriate your behavior is considering that you are part of her family alltho you never laid eys on her? You are still representing Ayla, and in a very immature manner throughout.
DeleteIt's a litte bit funny,
ReplyDeletethis feeling inside.
Not one of those you can easily hide.
I don't have much money,
but boy if I did.....
I wouldn't have to shoplift, or laugh in the faces of the idiots I manipulated to get their money by telling them im in surgery, and can't pay my BILLZ.
Justin's son doesn't have anything to do with this case? You mean, similar to how you thinking Trista has a pregnant belly has nothing to do with this case? Why is it a "latest attempt to change the subject" and you find it so horrible, yet your ENTIRE blog is dedicated to changing the subject? I wish I had the spare time that you have so that I could go through each of your posts and tally up how few mention or even have to do with Ayla.
ReplyDeleteHow is this blog dedicated to changing the subject? It addresses the the very people who try to change the subject and then tries to bring it back to the subject. Granted sometimes it pokes fun at the ridiculousness of the other blogs. But that is really the only way to show how ridiculous they are. And Trista possibly being pregnant is still a little different than Justin possibly having a son. She has a finance who she just had a baby with and is currently still visiting and supposedly with. Not a show of very good character or morals. Justin might have been not practicing good birth control but was not engaged to someone else and was supposedly dating this women at time. Just saying. But you are right about one thing all that has nothing to do with finding Ayla. It is exactly the point Obscure was making And often tries to make. Yes even when he points out that Trista may be pregnant. Because when doing that he/she is trying to make a point that it is silly to do so and that it is exactly what others are doing to Justin and his family and friends. But no one seems to be catching on to that.
ReplyDeleteOver Their Heads,
DeleteThere are some people who just need a brick to fall on their head before they get it.
Tthen there are others who are just plain blind, but only because they refuse to see.
When you sign off on each of your blogs, I suggest that you also include:
ReplyDelete"This makes me LOL."
Because almost every one of your articles talks about how something you didn't agree with made you LOL. I find it remarkable you truly laugh out loud by yourself reading differing opinions. But since you seem to so genuinely enjoy making sure to announce your LOL's to everyone, it seems appropriate to just consider adding it to every single one of your new posts so no one forgets your curious sense of humor.
Or maybe it is just the fact that everything that he disagrees with happens to be really funny.
ReplyDeleteI want to thank Selena and Derek for answering my questions on an earlier post. I appreciate your taking the time to reply.
ReplyDeleteA pleasure, Eve.
DeleteSo much humor in a missing childs case but at least one person is happy and healthy tho I question the leval of sanity.
ReplyDeleteHow's this for humor... YA GOTTA WATCH OUT FOR THOSE "SUSPENSIONS"!!
ReplyDeleteThe stuff that is on Tori's blog is so ridiculous and stupid. Those people are just stupid.......
"You may think that keeping Justin's secret and your suspensions to yourself is helping him, but it is only hurting everyone in the long run."
Too funny.