Getting Carried Away...

Enough of the bullshit comments that are completely made up. Seriously.

Here's one example:

getting closer to the truth  10/27/12 10:48 AM

"Her arm was to the point now, before all this happened, that she was lifting it up"

Note: The medical report says the same thing, in essence.

this is an ODD statement added in

before ALL WHAT happened?

this TIME STAMPS HER TIME OF DEATH.

She was last seen wearing green, one-piece pajamas with polka dots and the words “Daddy’s Princess” on them.

She was never changed out of her PJ's on fri am or was changed into THESE SPECIFIC ONES TO MAKE A STATEMENT-POST DEATH, she was killed sometime after Phoebe and Elisha left for work/school, cold-stored in the shed and disposed of late fri evening when everyone was sleeping. he had to get rid of her pretty quick-the smell would start to perminate to the neighbors.he may or may have not have slipped Li and Court a mikey......he used courts car because hers was blocking his as it was parked behind it. he grabbed her keys while she slept. wonder if court noticed he forgot to reajust the seat back to her settings, BUT POLICE NOTICED HOW THE SEAT AND MIRROWS WERE SET FOR SOMEONE @6FT TALL.

courtney figured when she got her car back the cops fiddled with her settings. Justin used courts car implicating her in the crime, THAT is why she isnt talking.

PS-Courtneys car, a newer model has GPS built in. Police are searching in water because the GPS report from her car leads them to the rivers. she was dumped one river, her stuff dumped at another.

Now, I don't know where the fuck you're from, but 2002 is not considered "newer model." It's 10 years old. 10. Years. Old.

The newspaper reported the following:

Also seized was a 2002 Hyundai, registered to a Portland woman whose name is not being made public.

This is the picture of Courtney and Justin's vehicles:

So, that means Courtney's car is a 2002 Hyundai XG350, as pictured here:

If you care to review the features and specs of this car, there is NO built in GPS system. Of course, when you say "built in" I'm assuming you're dumb enough to think that Hyundai offers that straight from the factory. Any GPS in this car was either installed by Courtney, or it was of the portable type.


Should I take their word, or yours?

Before anyone asks, I'll ask myself. Why did you post this, Obscure? To show that your comment lacks credibility. It's a fairy tale. You need to find better things to do with your time!

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I'm not linking to Peeter's post, but you can find it online. He whores his blog everywhere so it's bound to pop up if you google the words Statement Anal. This was written a while ago, but for some reason I left it in the drafts folder. Anyway, Peeter's lies words are in black, my "refutation" is in red.

1.  Single, unemployed young male grew up with reputation as a bully along with his brother.  Small, hot tempered and entitled, he learned that he was a father and fumed over child support payments. Justin is not single, nor is he unemployed. The first lie was obvious; he is clearly in a relationship with Courtney, and was when he got custody of Ayla. The part about Justin's reputation--why hasn't anyone OTHER than Peeter made that assertion?

2.  He attempted to get custody to stop child support payments.  He is rumored to be a low level street drug dealer, mostly in oxys and vicodin. He didn't attempt to get custody, he DID get custody. If his sole purpose was to stop child support payments, why didn't he file to do so until AFTER Ayla went missing? Also, don't forget that Justin didn't TAKE Ayla from Trista, it was per an agreement. I  don't know for sure whether or not he filed to stop child support, but according to Trista, he filed AFTER her disappearance. Also note that Peeter is inserting yet another rumor into this case; at least this time he acknowledges it.

3.  While having the child (Baby Ayla) at his mother's home, Ayla experiences a series of injuries and ill explained bruises.  This culminates in a broken arm in which neither he nor his mother sought medical attention for at least 24 hours. This is not accurate on a number of fronts. The first thing is that Ayla experienced one injury in Justin's custody that is backed up by medical records. The bruises have never been proven, and even so, the bruising is not alleged to have happened in Phoebe's home (Ball Pit Story). The broken arm was treated well before 24 hours passed.

4.  Father is unable to control his temper and cannot hold even a menial job.  He also has another child by another young woman.  He purchases a life insurance policy against Baby Ayla's life, although she is healthy, betting on a large sum of money to come in to him in the event that said healthy baby dies.  He does not buy life insurance against the other child's life. All of this is speculation, except for the part about the other baby. Whether or not that is true, remains to be seen. For Justin to not be able to control his temper, why does he have no record of violence, harassment, protection orders, or the like? Peeter says things such as "Justin cannot even hold a menial job" despite the fact that numerous people have told him that Justin does, in fact, work.

5.  While in his care, father text messages the mother expressing fear that baby will be taken by someone. Justin expressed fear that "someone" would take the baby, or did he express fear that Trista and Co. would take the baby? That's a big difference, especially considering the custody battle that seemed to be looming. Count this as another material misrepresentation of the "facts."

6.   Approximately Six weeks from the purchase of the life insurance, he calls 911 to report her "missing" and "taken" by someone. Peeter has the life insurance documents in hand. *sarcasm*

7.  Tough guy father says he is "emotionally incapable" of speaking to media so that he can 'negotiate' with the kidnapper to get his child back. Negotiating with a kidnapper through the media. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. It is almost evident who the supposed kidnapper is in this situation, and pleading with her through the media would be pointless. What's interesting is that Trista never pleaded with kidnappers to get Ayla back either. Initially, she didn't plea with Justin to give Ayla back. All she wanted was for Justin to talk to her, to come to her...

8.  Police investigation uncovers:

a.  cleaned up blood in the basement found by luminol (LIE, police have never stated this)
b.  Evidence of "foul play" (half-truth)
c.  Announce that Ayla is dead (LIE, police have never stated this)
d.  indicate that father failed polygraph and is not cooperating. (LIE, police have never stated this)

9.  Father keeps up payments on Baby Ayla's life insurance so he can cash in when she is declared legally dead. This is pure speculation. If he stopped paying life insurance, people would find that to be hinky as well. You also don't know this to be a fact.



Police publicly announce that they are also, both lying, with indication that Elisha DiPietro failed her polygraph, while Courtney Roberts refused to take one. Police have CLEARLY stated that all 3 adults in the home have taken polygraphs. Peeter just refuses to acknowledge the few FACTS we do have in this case. If it doesn't fit his "Justin is a drug dealing, unemployed father who murdered his daughter for a life insurance payout of 25k" theory, then it doesn't matter.

If a child's blood is found and police publicly state that the two mothers are lying, how is this not legal jeopardy to both of the babies in the home? ASK THE VERY ORGANIZATION/AGENCY THAT YOU WORK FOR. YOU KNOW JUST AS WELL AS I DO THAT YOU CANNOT TAKE SOMEONE'S CHILD FROM THEM BASED ON A WHIM. YOU ALSO KNOW, JUST AS WELL AS I DO, THAT IF POLICE HAD ANYTHING TO INDICATE THE OTHER BABIES WERE IN DANGER THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED.



If it is that prosecutors have balked because they fear having a jury listen to the only three eye witnesses conspire and lie, how is it that Child Protective Services has not intervened on behalf of the other two children? There is obviously no reason to intervene at this point. Peeter, your prolonged temper tantrum about this issue is very unappealing.

While on probation, Lance  sent this author emails hoping to meet, face to face.  Tell the truth, and the whole truth, Peeter, the emails are now out there.

Lance would do well to remember that this author is not the size of Baby Ayla. You would do well to remember that the public is not going to just accept the things you come up with as fact. Your attempts to interject baseless rumors and lies into this case have failed. I get it; now you have to up the ante. You are no longer the smartest person in the room, Peeter. Even some of your staunch followers realize what's going on here. Please rewrite your post and use nothing but FACTS to back up the statements numbered 1-9. At the very least, do that. I'm sure you won't though, because you realize, just as others do, that those are YOUR opinions.

I did all of this typing, but in reality I could have kept it really short by saying this to Peeter: You, sir, are an asshole.

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Last few comments in case you could not see them:

	None of this would have happened if the person who made Ayla dissapear had not done it. Plain and simple,don't blame the victims but the doer. on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments) in response to @mckeekitty: Apparently, the court did intervene. And, look what happened. That fine upstanding family you defend so passionate: Lose Her! Open mouth, insert foot, now begin chewing., by Anonymous.	oneannon	on 10/18/12
	Anon 8:34 Why would you drag an innocent child into this discussion? Have some decency and leave the children alone. on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments) in response to @mckeekitty: Apparently, the court did intervene. And, look what happened. That fine upstanding family you defend so passionate: Lose Her! Open mouth, insert foot, now begin chewing., by Anonymous.	Keep Babies Innocent	on 10/18/12
	right and justins gf's sister was poisoning half of portland with boatloads of cocaine,oxy pills and pot wasnt she. he is one to talk.MAJOR DRUG TRAFFIKING, and he has no problem with his gf living in the same house and him living accross the street from drug central.School of kids nearby too. Trista has some mental problems, but courtneys sister purposely set out to make a profit from trying to kill others and the very least getting them addicted and filling up the drug rehab centers. how do we know that briona wasnt pushing drugs on trista too? yeah, our eyes are OPEN, doncha worry there sparky!!!! on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments) in response to What we know: Trista was homeless, living in a motel. What we don't know: When did Trista become homeless? Why was she not living with a relative who could help in her recovery? How did her homelessness impact any DHHS involvement with her children? _____________________________________ This one has always troubled me. Honestly, I can understand tossing my junkie daughter out on the street. Drug addicts are hell to live with. But I would seek relief from family court before allowing my grandchildren to be exposed to the horrors of an active addict. If I was in no position/condition to step in and care for my grandchildren, I would demand the court intervene. , by mckeekitty.	Anonymous	on 10/18/12
	if those bitches kept losing their kids then maybe mama becca should tell them to stop pumping them out.5 kids, how many diff fathers, no jobs etc. cut the shit already. and what is going on with her bro ronnie's girl Lilly? on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments) in response to @mckeekitty: Apparently, the court did intervene. And, look what happened. That fine upstanding family you defend so passionate: Lose Her! Open mouth, insert foot, now begin chewing., by Anonymous.	Anonymous	on 10/18/12
	No one needs to spread rumors all anyone has to do is open their eyes. Trista's family and friends actions are speaking loud and clear. And for that matter so are Trista's. on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments) in response to What we know: Trista was homeless, living in a motel. What we don't know: When did Trista become homeless? Why was she not living with a relative who could help in her recovery? How did her homelessness impact any DHHS involvement with her children? _____________________________________ This one has always troubled me. Honestly, I can understand tossing my junkie daughter out on the street. Drug addicts are hell to live with. But I would seek relief from family court before allowing my grandchildren to be exposed to the horrors of an active addict. If I was in no position/condition to step in and care for my grandchildren, I would demand the court intervene. , by mckeekitty.	Anon	on 10/18/12
	LE has not declared Ayla dead, they have only said they do not hold out hope for finding her alive after so much time has passed. That is not evidence to put in front of a judge for proof of death. What is so hard to understand about that! on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments) in response to I left a comment on U4A saying "This poll is ignorant. Why is their no option for “I do not think the LIP has anything to do with Ayla’s disappearance”?" And John edited my comment. How's that for proof of how fucked up things are run over there? It literally is a cult and John is literally psychotic., by Anonymous.	?	on 10/18/12
	derek and justin spread the rumours of trista being a junkie through their fake online names and through friends, family and bored old biddie worker bees on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments) in response to What we know: Trista was homeless, living in a motel. What we don't know: When did Trista become homeless? Why was she not living with a relative who could help in her recovery? How did her homelessness impact any DHHS involvement with her children? _____________________________________ This one has always troubled me. Honestly, I can understand tossing my junkie daughter out on the street. Drug addicts are hell to live with. But I would seek relief from family court before allowing my grandchildren to be exposed to the horrors of an active addict. If I was in no position/condition to step in and care for my grandchildren, I would demand the court intervene. , by mckeekitty.	my name is angela and I am a cloned sheep	on 10/18/12
	Hello Can you open a new thread please ? I cannot view the new comments. Thank you on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments)	Bonnie	on 10/18/12
	Weird...this from the Morning Sentinel: http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/police-log-offers-insight-into-custody-questions_2011-12-30.html Note that alcohol is never specified or even mentioned...only that Trista had a "substance abuse" problem and entered a "drug rehabilitation" facility. Yes...alcohol is a substance and a drug. I won't dare split hairs on that point. But why not just keep it at alcohol detox or treatment for alcoholism? I don't know what to make of Lance's assertion of seeing the "whole" Reynolds family smoking crack behind the restaurant. It doesn't play into my opinions. Re: the people who Ayla was exposed to. Well, Amanda Brenner is Ayla's "Godmother", right? When asked if Trista was currently using, Amanda responded with something like "just put 2 and 2 together." I'll find the post if you would like. If you wish to respond, I'll have to catch you on the next thread because I cannot read comments beyond the 200 mark. on What Do We Really KNOW? (CLOSED for Comments) in response to What we know: Trista was homeless, living in a motel. What we don't know: When did Trista become homeless? Why was she not living with a relative who could help in her recovery? How did her homelessness impact any DHHS involvement with her children? _____________________________________ This one has always troubled me. Honestly, I can understand tossing my junkie daughter out on the street. Drug addicts are hell to live with. But I would seek relief from family court before allowing my grandchildren to be exposed to the horrors of an active addict. If I was in no position/condition to step in and care for my grandchildren, I would demand the court intervene. , by mckeekitty.	mckeekitty	on 10/18/12

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What are the facts, really? Looking back to the beginning, this is what I came up with...and some of this is not even fact, it is what has been relayed to us by Trista or others.

What we know: Justin did not find out that Ayla was his  child until she was 7 months old.
What we don't know: Was Raymond Fortier led to believe that Ayla was his? Did his parents become bonded with Ayla during this time? What prompted Justin to be tested after 7 months?


What we know: Trista Reynolds got into a fight with her sister and the police were called. The responding police officers notified DHHS. Trista was given an ultimatum to either go to rehab or lose her children.
What we don't know: Who called the police about the fight? Why were they fighting? What about the situation made the DHHS notification necessary? Why did DHHS give Trista an ultimatum, if there was no prior involvement?

What we know: Justin was accompanied by Lewiston police officers to get Ayla from Jessica's apartment. Jessica reluctantly turned Ayla over to his custody.
What we don't know: What allowed Justin to get Ayla; was it an agreement between him and Trista or was it something ordered by DHHS? Was it both? Why was Jessica standing in the way of Ayla going with Justin? What rights did Jessica believe she had? Why was baby Ray left behind?

What we  know: Trista entered rehab, and sometime before her 10 day stay was over, a family team meeting was held.
What we don't know: How long was the actual rehab program (including the outpatient part)? Why was a family team meeting necessary? What was discussed at this meeting?

What we know: Ayla was seen at a doctor's office/hospital for two injuries: a broken arm and a pulled leg muscle. The broken arm was accidental, and Trista had concerns of abuse regarding the pulled leg muscle.
What we don't know: Why did Trista wait a week before getting Ayla treatment for her leg? Why did Trista not voice concerns of abuse regarding the broken arm?

What we know: Trista was homeless, living in a motel.
What we don't know: When did Trista become homeless? Why was she not living with a relative who could help in her recovery? How did her homelessness impact any DHHS involvement with her children?

What we know: Ayla went missing sometime after 8 p.m. on the 16th of December, but before 8 a.m. on the 17th of December.
What we don't know: When was Ayla last accounted for exactly? What exact time did she leave the home, and with whom?

What we know: Trista says she was on her way to visit Raymond Fortier in jail on the morning of December 17th.
What we don't know: Did her route take her through Waterville? What time did she leave the motel in Portland? Where was she between 8 p.m. on the 16th of December and 8 a.m. on the 17th of December? Did Robert Fortier pick her up in Portland, or did they meet in Winslow? When Trista found out that Ayla was missing, did she drive all the way back to Portland, and then to Waterville? Where was baby Ray? Why was this information not initially divulged or included in the Reynolds' timeline? Did police use tracking dogs to sniff out Ayla's scent in the vehicle Trista was traveling in?


I'm sure this list is even longer...I'm also sure you all will add your info in the comments!

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The comment below summarizes the position taken against Justin..I drafted this a lonnggg time ago, but never got around to publishing it. It's a bit untimely, but still very reflective of a certain stance taken in this case.

margyf1 says:

September 17, 2012 at 11:48 am

My opinion is based on LE and MSP evidence, which is a lot, thus far.

While under daddy’s care Ayla suffered a broken arm without immediate care, bruises, obvious cut(s) to her little body and god knows what else. Daddy is an individual who took Ayla from custody of the Reynolds familiy relative via DHHS where he had connections. He buys a Life Insurance Policy shortly before his “daughter” goes “missing”. Blood evidence is more than what a small cut would produce says LE. Daddy refuses to give LE or MSP any clues as to what happened to his “daughter” other than she was kidnapped. The FBI totally rejected that this was a kidnapping from the get go! End of that story right there. He does not speak out with emotions to anyone. He remains silent throughout these 9 months. He shows zero zip for any emotions. His face remains totally placid. He expresses no pain or being distraught over this AT ALL! Not exactly what a loving father would do or would act like when is child goes missing.

I ask you: What is left to figure out? I have never been on the fence as to who did this to this poor sweet child.

The father reeks with guilt. It’s a no brainer and he will pay sooner or later when he gets that knock on his door from MSP! Party’s over for him and the others at that moment, who are connected with this crime.

I have read from good sources and people connected with LE that this case is far from a cold case and that LE is still building, what will be a very strong case, to bring justice to those horrible person(s) who caused enormous pain and terror to this poor sweet child. I can only imagine the horrific fear Ayla must have had while being harmed by him!

Margy's comment sums up the ignorance surrounding this case. I would call Marg the village idiot, but he or she comes from an entire village of idiots. I was going to go through and disprove much of what was said with links and facts, but I decided it would be a waste of time....

I would love for Margy or any of her comrades to post actual facts...those pesky little things!

 

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