They've been saying for 5 months that Ayla is dead. You can say LE never told them before, but if a child lost a CUP of blood as alleged, then that's proof positive that the child is DEAD.
UGH
5.31.2012
Not sure what to think about this...
They've been saying for 5 months that Ayla is dead. You can say LE never told them before, but if a child lost a CUP of blood as alleged, then that's proof positive that the child is DEAD.
UGH
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Did McCausland name a suspect?
Did McCausland rule anyone out?
Did McCausland announce an arrest?
Did McCausland reveal anything new?
Did McCausland confirm or deny any information?
Did McCausland act to lock up a murderer for the safety of the Waterville community?
Did McCausland say why Ayla is "highly unlikely" to be alive?
Why didn't he do any of these things?
It's premature. Too early in the investigation. Not appropriate. Being kept close to the vest.
Then why hold a press conference at all?
There's good news, bad news, and no news. I'm putting this safely into the "no news" column. The 3 who were in the home know more than what they are saying. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Literally!
Trista has been so helpful and concerned and cooperative, why not return the favor and clear her of any wrong doing? What a slap in the damn face... O_o
Oh, I'M OFFICIALLY ON SUMMER BREAK! woohoooooo...
Did McCausland rule anyone out?
Did McCausland announce an arrest?
Did McCausland reveal anything new?
Did McCausland confirm or deny any information?
Did McCausland act to lock up a murderer for the safety of the Waterville community?
Did McCausland say why Ayla is "highly unlikely" to be alive?
Why didn't he do any of these things?
It's premature. Too early in the investigation. Not appropriate. Being kept close to the vest.
Then why hold a press conference at all?
There's good news, bad news, and no news. I'm putting this safely into the "no news" column. The 3 who were in the home know more than what they are saying. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Literally!
Trista has been so helpful and concerned and cooperative, why not return the favor and clear her of any wrong doing? What a slap in the damn face... O_o
Oh, I'M OFFICIALLY ON SUMMER BREAK! woohoooooo...
Thoughts...Mine...duh!
My reaction to the press conference is no reaction. What does that even mean? Why say something like that, and then not get into what was actually said? Did Justin literally not say anything after he was told? I mean, come on!
How is Justin supposed to react to being told that it's highly unlikely Ayla will be found alive? That's the equivalent of MSP calling him-his sister--or his girlfriend a murderer, because they also continue to say she was not abducted. Justin maintains his innocence. How would you react to that?
It's not a homicide investigation, but it's highly unlikely that Ayla will be found alive.
We've never told either parent that Ayla is likely dead, yet we insist that the other alternatives have been ruled out. Sooo...what has MSP been questioning Justin about the whole time? A mysterious magic trick? Uhh, they've probably BEEN saying that Ayla is dead, and accusing him of her murder.
The 3 in the home have not told all they know. Now that includes people who may be "associated" with the home. Also, the 3 MAY have answers. If this is a homicide, then the 3 DO have answers, and McCausland could just come right out and say it.
This press conference was more of the same.
It is interesting that the reward fund is coming to an end. I guess the idea to increase it wasn't a good one after all, huh?
Are they making these announcements to lure someone into a false sense of security? Are they trying to let someone think that the heat is off of them? It doesn't take 5 months to analyze evidence. Surely there are ways to circumvent a backlog and get certain items to the front of the line?
If MSP had evidence that Ayla was dead, there would be charges. Period. If what has occurred in this case is "very evident" then every single investigator in this case should retire or resign. If it is so evident, how in the hell is an agency with $500,000+ being outsmarted by the DiPietros.
The moral of the story: tunnel vision sucks.
Wanted to add, people are saying McCausland was CRYSTAL clear in this press conference (despite not answering any investigative questions?). Well, he stated that speculation of charges is premature. Therefore, this blog is not going any where, and I'm not apologizing to Trista. I'm not shutting down. The only thing I'm sorry about is the fact that Ayla is missing and has still not been found.
How is Justin supposed to react to being told that it's highly unlikely Ayla will be found alive? That's the equivalent of MSP calling him-his sister--or his girlfriend a murderer, because they also continue to say she was not abducted. Justin maintains his innocence. How would you react to that?
It's not a homicide investigation, but it's highly unlikely that Ayla will be found alive.
We've never told either parent that Ayla is likely dead, yet we insist that the other alternatives have been ruled out. Sooo...what has MSP been questioning Justin about the whole time? A mysterious magic trick? Uhh, they've probably BEEN saying that Ayla is dead, and accusing him of her murder.
The 3 in the home have not told all they know. Now that includes people who may be "associated" with the home. Also, the 3 MAY have answers. If this is a homicide, then the 3 DO have answers, and McCausland could just come right out and say it.
This press conference was more of the same.
It is interesting that the reward fund is coming to an end. I guess the idea to increase it wasn't a good one after all, huh?
Are they making these announcements to lure someone into a false sense of security? Are they trying to let someone think that the heat is off of them? It doesn't take 5 months to analyze evidence. Surely there are ways to circumvent a backlog and get certain items to the front of the line?
If MSP had evidence that Ayla was dead, there would be charges. Period. If what has occurred in this case is "very evident" then every single investigator in this case should retire or resign. If it is so evident, how in the hell is an agency with $500,000+ being outsmarted by the DiPietros.
The moral of the story: tunnel vision sucks.
Wanted to add, people are saying McCausland was CRYSTAL clear in this press conference (despite not answering any investigative questions?). Well, he stated that speculation of charges is premature. Therefore, this blog is not going any where, and I'm not apologizing to Trista. I'm not shutting down. The only thing I'm sorry about is the fact that Ayla is missing and has still not been found.
5.30.2012
Just a heads up...
Think about the implications of dragging billboard companies into your pitiful world. Lamar Advertising and other companies graciously DONATED space for Ayla. Because you have no impulse control, and a general lack of decency, you are not able to fully think out the consequences of your behavior.
This time, the billboards are for Ayla. The next time a child goes missing, and needs his or her face up to get awareness, will the companies be as willing to lend their resources without payment? Or will they think twice, because of the behavior and mudslinging from dirty rats like you?
I'm done with this topic though. I'm going to give Tori Gifford enough rope to hang herself with. Not literally...well....okay....I'm gone, before I say something I won't really regret but will have to pretend to....
This time, the billboards are for Ayla. The next time a child goes missing, and needs his or her face up to get awareness, will the companies be as willing to lend their resources without payment? Or will they think twice, because of the behavior and mudslinging from dirty rats like you?
I'm done with this topic though. I'm going to give Tori Gifford enough rope to hang herself with. Not literally...well....okay....I'm gone, before I say something I won't really regret but will have to pretend to....
Haters Gonna Hate...
I cannot speak FOR the women of TLLOM.
But I can speak my mind regarding the newest post about them.
First of all, how does investigating this group of women do ANYTHING TO FIND AYLA?
Isn't that what JusticeforAyla prides itself on?
Getting screenshots of a private group, while blocking people from your own blog, is rather hypocritical. While you're spraying the "hypocrite spray" make sure you cover yourself generously.
Secondly, in the time taken to send an email to confirm TLLOM's billboards, couldn't you have been sending an email to someone to see about GETTING ANOTHER BILLBOARD PUT UP? Oh, wait. That would be too much like right, and it would require using the few brain cells you have left. I have to stop setting such high expectations for these people! Adding this: How did Tori know who to contact at these specific companies? The email addresses were blurred out when I posted emails here...hmmm... She's quite obviously got a big lie up her sleeve; I can't wait til her uterus is fixed so we can find out what it is!
Other than slander Justin DiPietro and family, what has JusticeforAyla done for Ayla? They stroke Jeff's ego, but that's about it. They "pray" for Ayla, while carrying themselves like heathens when they're not "praying". I get it...not really, but I'll say I do. If anything, I see them preying ON Ayla, using her name to justify some of the most ignorant behavior. I am guilty of behaving badly, but at least I don't do it in the name of a 2 year old child who is missing...
Hmm...this post is rather scattered.
TLLOM---keep up the good work! Your efforts will not be recognized in the media, your reputations will continuously be assaulted, and you will never be able to get away from the "crazy" that has made its presence known in this case. You can, however, sleep better at night knowing that you WALK THE WALK, and you don't just talk the talk. What you do is 100% for Ayla, and people who try to dispute that are just _____________________________________________. (insert a long string of expletives---I can't type those types of things from my current location). It doesn't mean much coming from me, but THANK YOU!
On a more positive note, TLLOM, it's been said that if you have HATERS, then you must be doing something right. Here's a little something for you, a "spray" you can call your own!
Oh, I'd also like the record to reflect that the blog post in question uses material taken from THIS blog. How's that for originality? Block me from your site, and then visit mine. That's not weird at all...
But I can speak my mind regarding the newest post about them.
First of all, how does investigating this group of women do ANYTHING TO FIND AYLA?
Isn't that what JusticeforAyla prides itself on?
Getting screenshots of a private group, while blocking people from your own blog, is rather hypocritical. While you're spraying the "hypocrite spray" make sure you cover yourself generously.
Secondly, in the time taken to send an email to confirm TLLOM's billboards, couldn't you have been sending an email to someone to see about GETTING ANOTHER BILLBOARD PUT UP? Oh, wait. That would be too much like right, and it would require using the few brain cells you have left. I have to stop setting such high expectations for these people! Adding this: How did Tori know who to contact at these specific companies? The email addresses were blurred out when I posted emails here...hmmm... She's quite obviously got a big lie up her sleeve; I can't wait til her uterus is fixed so we can find out what it is!
Other than slander Justin DiPietro and family, what has JusticeforAyla done for Ayla? They stroke Jeff's ego, but that's about it. They "pray" for Ayla, while carrying themselves like heathens when they're not "praying". I get it...not really, but I'll say I do. If anything, I see them preying ON Ayla, using her name to justify some of the most ignorant behavior. I am guilty of behaving badly, but at least I don't do it in the name of a 2 year old child who is missing...
Hmm...this post is rather scattered.
TLLOM---keep up the good work! Your efforts will not be recognized in the media, your reputations will continuously be assaulted, and you will never be able to get away from the "crazy" that has made its presence known in this case. You can, however, sleep better at night knowing that you WALK THE WALK, and you don't just talk the talk. What you do is 100% for Ayla, and people who try to dispute that are just _____________________________________________. (insert a long string of expletives---I can't type those types of things from my current location). It doesn't mean much coming from me, but THANK YOU!
On a more positive note, TLLOM, it's been said that if you have HATERS, then you must be doing something right. Here's a little something for you, a "spray" you can call your own!
Oh, I'd also like the record to reflect that the blog post in question uses material taken from THIS blog. How's that for originality? Block me from your site, and then visit mine. That's not weird at all...
Absence of Evidence is NOT Evidence of Absence
I apologize in advance, but a lot of this post is going to be copied and pasted from Wikipedia. Any professor I've ever had would highly disapprove of this. =) This will also be a rather long post...
Fallacy-an invalid argument that appears valid, or a valid argument with disguised assumptions.
False Dichotomy-a type of logical fallacy that involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option.
Argument from ignorance (or appeal to ignorance)-a fallacy in informal logic, where "ignorance" stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary."
Informal fallacy- an argument whose stated premises fail to support their proposed conclusion.
Argument-an attempt to persuade someone of something, by giving reasons or evidence for accepting a particular conclusion.
Absence of evidence-the absence, or lack of, any kind of evidence that may show, indicate, suggest, or be used to infer or deduce a fact.
Evidence of absence-evidence of any kind that can be used to infer or deduce the non-existence or non-presence of something.
This type of argument asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven
false (the kidnapping).This represents a
type of false dichotomy
in that it excludes a third option, which is that there is insufficient
investigation and therefore insufficient information to prove the
proposition satisfactorily to be either true or false (What EVIDENCE has the public seen that allows one side to arrive at this conclusion so readily? What the police are privy to, we are not...You can take their word that no kidnapping occurred, but they are humans and capable of the same logical fallacies as any one of us).
Arguments that appeal to ignorance rely on the fact that the veracity of the proposition is not disproven to arrive at a definite conclusion. These arguments fail to appreciate that the limits of one's understanding or certainty do not change what is true (Sometimes law enforcement gets it wrong). Whatever the reality is, it does not “wait” for human logic or analysis to be formulated. Reality exists at all times, and it exists independently of what is in the mind of anyone. (Assertions by law enforcement do not change reality. Facts are facts...)
This fallacy can be very convincing (clearly) and is considered by some to be a special case of a false dilemma or false dichotomy in that they both fail to consider alternatives. A false dilemma may one of two forms:
We have one of each type of false dichotomy in this case; ironically, both arguments are coming from the same side. This is ironic, because these terms/definitions are usually used in regard to a debate of some sort or to something that is in contention. The fact that both logical fallacies come from the same side explains why there can be no reasonable debate about Ayla's disappearance.
Referring to the bullets above, we see these two things have been alleged or put forth by the other side:
I feel that it is important to reiterate the fact that these so-called appeals to ignorance can be very convincing, but that one's certainty and one's understanding have limits. Reality does not change, so believing strongly that one scenario is more plausible than another, will not make it so.
When it comes to the kidnapping claim, which is central to this case despite MSP ruling it out, we don't know if law enforcement found no evidence because it does not exist (evidence of absence), or if they simply lack proper means of detection (absence of evidence).
What are your thoughts? Beware, if you cannot discuss them rationally, you should simply click the red 'x' in the corner of your screen!
Basic Definitions
False Dichotomy-a type of logical fallacy that involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option.
Argument from ignorance (or appeal to ignorance)-a fallacy in informal logic, where "ignorance" stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary."
Informal fallacy- an argument whose stated premises fail to support their proposed conclusion.
Argument-an attempt to persuade someone of something, by giving reasons or evidence for accepting a particular conclusion.
Absence of evidence-the absence, or lack of, any kind of evidence that may show, indicate, suggest, or be used to infer or deduce a fact.
Evidence of absence-evidence of any kind that can be used to infer or deduce the non-existence or non-presence of something.
Argumentum ad Ignorantiam---Appeal to Ignorance
Arguments that appeal to ignorance rely on the fact that the veracity of the proposition is not disproven to arrive at a definite conclusion. These arguments fail to appreciate that the limits of one's understanding or certainty do not change what is true (Sometimes law enforcement gets it wrong). Whatever the reality is, it does not “wait” for human logic or analysis to be formulated. Reality exists at all times, and it exists independently of what is in the mind of anyone. (Assertions by law enforcement do not change reality. Facts are facts...)
This fallacy can be very convincing (clearly) and is considered by some to be a special case of a false dilemma or false dichotomy in that they both fail to consider alternatives. A false dilemma may one of two forms:
- If a proposition has not been disproven, then it cannot be considered false and must therefore be considered true.
- If a proposition has not been proven, then it cannot be considered true and must therefore be considered false
Argument from incredulity/Lack of imagination
Arguments from incredulity take the form:- P is too incredible (or: I cannot imagine how P could possibly be true); therefore P must be false. No one could have entered the home or took Ayla without waking anyone or getting caught.
- It is obvious that P is true (or: I cannot imagine how P could possibly be false); therefore P must be true. Justin bought a life insurance policy, Ayla had her arm broken and suffered other injuries. The pattern of abuse escalated, so he harmed Ayla and caused her disappearance.
My Thoughts..
We have one of each type of false dichotomy in this case; ironically, both arguments are coming from the same side. This is ironic, because these terms/definitions are usually used in regard to a debate of some sort or to something that is in contention. The fact that both logical fallacies come from the same side explains why there can be no reasonable debate about Ayla's disappearance.
Referring to the bullets above, we see these two things have been alleged or put forth by the other side:
- Justin, or someone in the DiPietro household harmed Ayla and then hid her body. This has not been refuted by the "facts" in the case; therefore it cannot be considered false has to be considered true.
- Ayla was not kidnapped. There is no evidence of this happening; therefore it cannot be considered true and must be considered false.
I feel that it is important to reiterate the fact that these so-called appeals to ignorance can be very convincing, but that one's certainty and one's understanding have limits. Reality does not change, so believing strongly that one scenario is more plausible than another, will not make it so.
When it comes to the kidnapping claim, which is central to this case despite MSP ruling it out, we don't know if law enforcement found no evidence because it does not exist (evidence of absence), or if they simply lack proper means of detection (absence of evidence).
Note: I am not implying at all that their investigation was flawed in any way, but insufficient means of detection could refer to any number of things...such as the inability to smell B.S.
What are your thoughts? Beware, if you cannot discuss them rationally, you should simply click the red 'x' in the corner of your screen!
5.29.2012
Don't Move...Or I'll SHOOT!
^^ That is the kind of threat that will make me stop what I'm doing. I would take notice of a threat like that. I'd be as still as a statue. A threat like this just makes me LMFAO:
In order to keep some crazy lady on the internet from posting "my chart", all I have to do is take my blog down. Okay...deleting...She couldn't be serious, but the fact is, she was. She continues to "threaten" different things, and she makes it very clear what her goal is.
In reality, she has no chart for me; she doesn't even know my name. She has no emails from me; I haven't emailed any other blogger (except Jeff when he "clarified" some of Trista's lies).
She really wants this blog to be taken down.
IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
How many different ways can I say that?
For people who say this blog is not about Ayla, meet Grace4AYLA. There's nothing graceful about these posts, and there's definitely nothing in them FOR AYLA. Using Ayla's name to post shit like this is just low. Post with your own name, and stop pretending to be doing these things on behalf of AYLA. I'm sorry your mother named you Grace, by the way. She must have had high expectations that you certainly failed to live up to! =/
A big question that I have, and one that I have asked repeatedly: if this blog is irrelevant, why must it be shut down? Can't you just choose not to read here? Why haven't your "Lies-free zones" or "boycotts" worked? This blog is discussed in your comments section more than Ayla is! :eyeroll: I know it sucks---people are reading...they're thinking...they're doubting...they're questioning. All of those things threaten the castle of lies that certain people have worked so hard to build. Hmm...
I also want to address the "originality" of this blog. Yes, I have said time and time again, I will refute any and every post from whatever blog I choose. Other blogs do the SAME thing. Go look at certain blogs and see how much information on them is based off something either said here by me or by one of my commenters. Yeah, go look.
Someone said in the comments (maybe S.) that we need to disengage from the other blogs. I will do that to the extent possible, but realize that I will still refute other blogger's posts when I feel the need to do so. I appreciate all of the feedback and support! I'm not a sensitive person, so by all means I welcome your honesty. If you feel at times that this blog has gotten too far off course, let me know. I can handle criticism just as well as I can give it! ;)
New ORIGINAL posts coming soon! LOL Thursday at 12:45, summer break begins! Who is excited?!!!!
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Hail Mary, full of Grace...
75.70.66.207
In order to keep some crazy lady on the internet from posting "my chart", all I have to do is take my blog down. Okay...deleting...She couldn't be serious, but the fact is, she was. She continues to "threaten" different things, and she makes it very clear what her goal is.
In reality, she has no chart for me; she doesn't even know my name. She has no emails from me; I haven't emailed any other blogger (except Jeff when he "clarified" some of Trista's lies).
She really wants this blog to be taken down.
IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
How many different ways can I say that?
For people who say this blog is not about Ayla, meet Grace4AYLA. There's nothing graceful about these posts, and there's definitely nothing in them FOR AYLA. Using Ayla's name to post shit like this is just low. Post with your own name, and stop pretending to be doing these things on behalf of AYLA. I'm sorry your mother named you Grace, by the way. She must have had high expectations that you certainly failed to live up to! =/
A big question that I have, and one that I have asked repeatedly: if this blog is irrelevant, why must it be shut down? Can't you just choose not to read here? Why haven't your "Lies-free zones" or "boycotts" worked? This blog is discussed in your comments section more than Ayla is! :eyeroll: I know it sucks---people are reading...they're thinking...they're doubting...they're questioning. All of those things threaten the castle of lies that certain people have worked so hard to build. Hmm...
I also want to address the "originality" of this blog. Yes, I have said time and time again, I will refute any and every post from whatever blog I choose. Other blogs do the SAME thing. Go look at certain blogs and see how much information on them is based off something either said here by me or by one of my commenters. Yeah, go look.
Someone said in the comments (maybe S.) that we need to disengage from the other blogs. I will do that to the extent possible, but realize that I will still refute other blogger's posts when I feel the need to do so. I appreciate all of the feedback and support! I'm not a sensitive person, so by all means I welcome your honesty. If you feel at times that this blog has gotten too far off course, let me know. I can handle criticism just as well as I can give it! ;)
New ORIGINAL posts coming soon! LOL Thursday at 12:45, summer break begins! Who is excited?!!!!
Edit 1:
Hail Mary, full of Grace...
75.70.66.207
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