The above was posted on April 9th. Tori Gifford, what say you? You were asked to stop, and you persisted.
A little note before you read further. I personally think all of this is stupid. I have told you all that I am not CAP. Fake myspace pages, fake Twitter accounts, blogs; if we are going to play those games with people who have nothing to do with this blog, then let's go. JusticeforAyla AKA Tori Gifford is still leading the charge. So, since people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, I'll return the favor. Blog wars, with no end in sight huh?
I'd like to introduce you to the Gifford/Nigro Family....
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| Proud mommy & Ava |
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| Baby girl, Ava |
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| Anthony & Ava, outdated photo |
Can't leave out Andrew. He's the only one with SWAGGER, as he says anyway!
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| Andrew...a thug in the making? |
Long-time boyfriend. Awww...<3
Now the LIES about your criminal history. What else are you lying about?
This was in 2009:
The couple that commits crime together....well, you know. Where were the kids while these geniuses were out stealing?
This was in 2010:
Also in 2010:
Runs in the family, I guess?
More pics...
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| Are you high? Ms. I don't do drugs? |
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| So cute! Andrew much younger, pre-thug days... |
For kicks, she will answer your questions and do research for you. She'll help you raise your kids, even though she didn't raise her own for 10+ years.
Back to Ayla on all blogs--including THIS ONE, or does it escalate? Only time will tell, I guess?
Edit1-Had to remove information about the parental units.
Edit2-Added post asking to cease and desist, basically.
Tori isn't the one who's kid vanished into thin air...
ReplyDeleteI believe Tori's child has disappeared though. Ask her how. See if she tells you the truth. Because from what I have heard she has many versions.
DeleteThis is really unnecessary and innapropriate. Those are her children. This has nothing to do with Ayla.
ReplyDeleteRuby I believe Obscure is trying to make a point. And has been warning Tori that he/she was going to do just that. Tori has been posting names, personal info, maps to peoples homes, and letting people post threats on her page about many people. So why does she think it is a problem when the exact same thing is being done to her?
DeleteEXACTLY.
DeleteAnd how does this make Obscure a better person for acting in such a way that could potentially put other children at risk? And exactly how does this prove her point that Tori is some low life for doing what she did? It would seem to me that Obscure is no better for behaving like a high schooler and doing the very same thing she accuses someone else of and thinks it's perfectly acceptable to do so because Obscure is trying to prove a point.....?? Really?? Remember a while back when I suggested you get some much needed therapy to deal with your issues? that advice still stands.....please get help before you get someone hurt just because YOU'RE trying to make a point
DeleteTit for tat? Sounds VERY childish to me.jmo
DeleteObscure is clearly a better person. Obscure is not doing what they are doing out of some need for some sort of power trip or need for attention or whatever it is that Tori is thriving on. Obscure posted Tori's info to help her understand that what she was doing was wrong. No more no less. If you do not see the difference than you are blind "see right through things"
DeleteSo, let me see if I understand what you're saying here.....Obscure is right in posting personal information including pictures of innocent children because she is trying to help Tori understand that doing things like that is wrong. So, the fact that she is trying to help someone understand something, that makes it okay for her to something that's wrong. Is that what you're saying? Just to be sure that I have clearly understood, let's say that I'm trying to make someone understand that it's wrong to steal, I should steal something to make my point?? Ohhhh, NOW it makes sense!! Pull your head outta your ass and get some fresh air!
DeleteI agree that this war of blogs is lame, and I don't like people's personal lives to be exposed, but she really asked for it by exposing a woman's life who we know nothing about. Oh the low-class comments I saw about that woman, CAP, comments where she and her physical appearance were insulted. I don't think that many of the people who commented and insulted her appearance can claim to be as good-looking as her. But that's not the point. J4A exposed a woman who really may have nothing to do with all of this, and that is disgusting. I hope it won't go further and that it will go back to Ayla. I don't approve of one of J4A's private lives to be exposed, but that's what they have been asking and playing at for a while. So they shouldn't do to others what they don't like others to do to them.
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly how I feel about it. Tori shouldn't have done it, and on several occasions she posted offering CAP's personal information. Why? Why did she continue on that course, even after being told she's wrong? Now someone is cyberbullying her? LOL Did she forget what she's been doing the entire time this blog opened? She has personally posted the names of about 10 innocent people. She just never counted on me posting her stuff, which I've had for some time now. What a hypocrite.
DeleteI have to agree with 'still no clue'...the comments that they posted on the woman's page were completely inappropriate...bordered on harrassment actually....if for any reason, they were mistaken, imagine how they made this woman feel about herself when she read the insults about her physical appearance...even if they were right about who she is, it's still wrong and personally I found nothing wrong with her appearance at all...the truth is, none of us really know what happened in that home that night...we don't even know this little girl and we are all infatuated with her...imagine how her family feels...we should be considerate of others when we write comments...If it was my child missing, I would not consider any of the blogs as helpful tools when sparring has taken precedence over this missing baby...barb
DeleteI can't believe you would post her personal info like that. You had better hope no one hurts that family in anyway shape or form because you will be responsible if anything happens to them. I know you won't post this but I just want to let you know you are a very sick person. You really have nothing better to do with your time. Your not here for Ayla or to find out the truth, I think you just like the drama. Tori on the other hand is all about finding out what happened to this little girl. Your just a scum bag supporter.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the blog war is stupid; however, Tori was NEVER anonymous. She stated when she first started her blog that her brother in law lived with Justin, the DiPietros and everyone close to this case knew then who she was. She chose not to be anonymous. Anyone can look up her info on line. The pictures are on facebook.
DeleteObscure came into this anonymous, which should be within a person's rights. There has been much conversation at J4A among the bloggers and commenters trying to figure out who runs this blog to expose them, call their family, call their work, etc. The latest one they are claiming, CAP, was featured on J4A a few weeks ago, including links to her facebook and videos of her little daughter. CAP's information has also been posted as well as a picture of her husband and child. This happened BEFORE this post from JSTL.
I don't think I understand why it's ok for one to accuse several people of being the JSTL blogger, who chose to be anonymous, and releasing their information - but it's not ok after repeated attempts at "outing" her for JSTL to put public information on her blog about someone who chose not to be anonymous from the beginning.
@Anonymous 8:08
DeleteHave you even read Tori's blog? Apparently not? She has put so many people and their children's lives in danger. All in the name of "her quest for justice". Problem is in her quest she can not decide with her limited law experience who is the guilty person of the week. So she is constantly throwing a new person under the bus. That is a lot of "maybe" guilty people. And in the meantime those people have the eyes of the public upon them, a public that Tori then feeds info to, to stir them into an angry frenzy. Talk about a dangerous situation. Sounds like Obscure is a supporter of justice. If you do not like the way this country is run maybe you would prefer to go live in another. There are many to choose from that support your belief system. America however does not work that way. I have a feeling you would not be missed.
I just think its horrible to bring peoples kids into it. We are all supposed to be trying to save a child, not slay one or two. Very very sad. :( :(
ReplyDeletejust out of curiousity..how does posting this help Ayla at all? Isn't that what we are all suppose to be here for??
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't. Do you also ask this on other blogs?
DeleteGood question Olivia I think that is the point Obscure is trying to make to Tori. Sometimes people just do not get it unless they see how it feels themselves. I think Obscure is just tired of seeing Tori bullying other people on her page all in the name of Ayla.
DeleteDUI's, five finger discounts, wearing caps sideways, sounds like a dangerous crew. If you want to write about thug wanabees, why not more on Lance and bro Peach? This definitely shows your concern for innocent children at it's best.
ReplyDeleteJustin does not have a criminal record. And his brother is not nearly as interesting as the long list of Tori's history, her acquaintances, and let's add Trista's family and history since you brought it up.
DeleteVery true. The whole point of this is clear to most:
DeleteThe one sided view painting Justin and the Dipietros (referred to by the nasty people as the "Dips") as evil and murdering required them to totally white wash everything about the Reynolds.
The white washing of the Reynolds and Fortier clans required many blogs and social media pages to bully out any opposing viewpoints.
The one tiny group that had an opposing and actually open minded viewpoint was ruthelessly bullied, and all the members were lied about, personal information dredged up (ironically not much of anything was to be found) and posted all over the internet. Hate speech, personal attacks on their looks, their intentions, Lies about their actions in this case all became the norm. It was so far gone that for the most part any newcomers to the scene wouldn't bother to look for the "truth" because so many on multiple blogs and facebook pages had so effectively made their lies and warped interpretations of those people become recognized as the 'truth'.
Tori G. took it upon herself to capitalize on this, to use her remote connection to Justin as a launch pad, and to further tear people apart all in the name of Ayla. She never once considered how tearing up people's reputations that she doesn't even know could possibly further the police investigation. In fact, the group of people she was attacking were and are working very hard at spreading awareness in the biggest ways they are financially able to, which is the best way to get someone to come forward with information about Ayla's whereabouts one way or another.
Tori and her friends for whatever reason don't see it that way, and have taken it upon themselves to campaign against those efforts because those people are not out there calling the Dipietros murderers.
Funny how when you look at it realistically, Tori, Hyatt, McKee, Kit, and so very many others can't possibly only be in this for Ayla. Not possible. Or they would have let it go, because people are, after all, entitled to have different perspectives. Instead they lied about what others were doing, what their intentions were, and said that others were "bashing" Trista and family. That was not at all true, but since they were stating it on the internet it assumed it's own validity. Now that the facts as they stated then DON'T check out, they are pissed.
And Tori doesn't like when someone does to her exactly what she has repeatedly done to others. Because....in her world, she's got the corner on all that is right, and so the rules get bent for her. That is what she expects, As her criminal record confirms.
good riddance! =)
ReplyDeleteOk, when do you say enough is enough ? Both blogs have said something about the other. This is supposed to be about Ayla !! If you don't have any news about Ayla...then don't post anything. Wow, what an idea. These blogs would be very quiet if all that was posted was about Ayla....Let's keep it about Ayla & not about who owns the damn blog. Grow up, both of you.
ReplyDeleteTori made it her mission to out me, she failed at that mission, and started spinning out of control. CAP's information was posted about a month ago, maybe you should have said something back then? It seems kind of disingenuous to call foul now if you didn't back then. Just sayin...
DeleteThis is absolutely disgusting. And justifying it with the "she did it first" excuse is juvenile. How old are you? Certainly not an adult acting this way and behaving this irresponsibly. I understand people get upset...it clouds their judgment...things escalate.. It needs to stop now and get back to being about Ayla. And don't give me the whole "well did you post this on the other blog" crap. No because you have the ability to remove this vile post and end it all here. Fighting back and forth helps no one "win" and it makes Ayla "lose". Two wrongs don't make a right. Why not focus on Ayla and stop trying to retaliate against the other blog. I don't care who did what first because this blog post right here took it too far. It is up to to change yourself, not change the other person.
DeleteAnonymous 2:12
DeleteYou are missing the point. It is not about "she did it first". It is about making Tori feel what she is doing to others. She is being a bully. And finally someone is standing up to her. Someone who yes does want it to get back to being about Ayla. Someone who is tired of seeing her post things about innocent people. Many, many innocent people. Someone who is saying how does it feel Tori? Maybe you should stop. So I say bravo Obscure. And thank you for helping to try to get things back on track to Ayla.
Well "bravo" for being just as sick and deluded. I get the point, you condone it by calling it a defense against bullying. Standing up or defending yourself to someone does not have to include something this disgusting. I could care less about whether this blog or that blog hurts Tori's feelings, or this blogger's feelings. It shouldn't even be about that. How is Ayla feeling? So much selfishness...stop making this about your feelings and someone "bullying" you as you call it. Have a slice of humble pie and think of how blessed you are to have a place like this to speak your mind, but at the same time be respectful. Life is too short to keep hating and attacking each other. Hate breeds more hate and when that hate grows it creates the same kind of monstrous, hateful people out there in this world who are responsible for this missing little girl and all the other sickos out there. The adult thing to do would be to brush it off and move on to what is important. Again, you are condoning more hatred and two wrongs don't make a right. I just have a sense of right and wrong and since when does even attempting to hurt Tori help Ayla Reynolds? If you truly wanted it to get back to beng about Ayla the simple solution is to stop the insult blogs. Just stop. There is your simple solution....if you really wanted it which it doesn't appear you do if you keep feeding the drama. You say to make Tori feel penance for what she does to others....are you God now? Let God judge...revenge is a form of hate. And for the record I did post this on her blog and it was removed. So I am not choosing "sides" here. I visit both blogs for news and updates.
DeleteAnonymous...sigh. It really is difficult to keep stating things in 75 different ways in hopes of having you get it. The point of this is that this blogger started the entire blog BECAUSE this had become about anything BUT Ayla.
DeleteThose bullies that you are saying it's selfish to recognize as being bullies? They WERE and ARE bullying and are making it difficult for ANYONE who is ACTUALLY working towards finding Ayla to DO THAT.
THEIR personal attacks on those that refuse to give up and call Ayla dead have made it incredibly hard to continue on. You couldn't possibly know that personally, because it's not happened to you. As your words show, you just don't get how if none of what TORI and friends are doing had EVER happened, this blog wouldn't exist and those that were WORKING to find Ayla could have done so without the scary, unsettling attacks on their personal lives.
This is one profile of Obscure's that does not approve of this.
ReplyDeleteJust as I did not approve of the numberous post on a few blogs concerning CAP, and making available her personal information.
I don't who the ignorant person is that manages the blog, Start The Lies, but my opinion is as I stated the other night,
..Most scary carzy, and then some.
How can anyone justify what was done to CAP? I don't care if she is the writer of this blog. That makes no difference.
I visited that blog a few times, and I never saw 1 comment, not 1, where somone commented that it is wrong to be releasing personal information about someone. Quit the contrary, every single comment was in support of it. Some offering help.
Most especially the post concerning CAP and her personal information.
There was around 50 comments I believe. ALL in SUPPORT of what was being done. Every single one of those people should be ashamed!!!
Justice 4 Ayla, may not be the blog master of that blog. She may not have created fake accounts. However she did post about it, and welcomed the blog, and ask everyone to support it. She has openly offered personal information about CAP. What does that tell you?
It tells me the kind of person she is.
I have no doubt that J4A has offered her assitance to the blog, and it's informatiuon.
Mr Jeff Hanson has commented on that blog as well, offering his input. I also suspect that he has given information to that blogger, if he isn't in some way connected.
No one who has commented on that site, or offered their assistance, has in any way, shape or form the right to criticize this post, or this blog.
Is it ok what Tori did to CAP's kids within the past couple weeks? I don't believe Tori's kids are in danger, she hasn't been anonymous from the beginning.
ReplyDeleteTori has posted about other people's children. She encourages hate and unnecessary reports to DHHS about people who simply do nothing more than think Justin is innocent and spend their time and money working to find Ayla. Her blog does nothing to help find Ayla. Her commenters go on and on about how they have Ayla in their hearts and everything they do is for Ayla. Yet she posts pictures and maps of people's homes where other children and innocent peole live. Reading that blog makes me sick. The only people being vile and rude with their comments on this blog are Tori and Trista's supporters. I love how anyone who supports Justin in any way is evil no matter how much they accomplish for Ayla. I mean real accomplishments. Not just another facebook page where all of Trista's supporters can come to bash the DiPietros. There are people who have been threatened and bullied by Tori and her followers. Spied on and chastised and defamed by people who don't even know them simply because they don't believe Ayla is dead and are busting their asses every day and half the night draining their own bank accounts to find a baby girl for her family. Justin has one facebook page backing him up in his search for Ayla. That's it. They all don't agree he is innocent or believe everything he says but the one thing all those people have in common is that they want Ayla found and they are willing to do what it takes and sacrifice to make it happen. They all recognize that Justin's supporters are the ones that are getting this done. Theorizing about how Ayla died and who is screwing who does NOT find Ayla. Billboards, Flyer Campaigns, Awareness events and huge twitter, pinterest and facebook tagging(pinning&tweeting) campaigns are what will help find Ayla. Spending hours making phone calls and faxing information to bus lines and airports is what will help bring Ayla home. These same people are working over time to include baby Lisa and Isabel Celis in their efforts. Can any of you say the same. Any "Ayla's Angels"? Any of Tori's groupies with their sick murder scenarios? None of you have any room to talk about anyone. You people walk around with a hair across your ass 24/7 because that's what you like. You people aren't happy if you're not pissed off and wrecking some stranger's life. Nothing makes you happier than when someone "wrongs" you because you get to make a big deal of yourself and be important. It's stupid and a waste of time when time is of the essence. There's only one group out there killing themselves to bring this baby home and they are supported by only one side of Ayla's family and guess what? At the rate they are going, they will have all three of those little girls found long before you all stop pissing in each other's cheerios. So have at it. Make yourself important. Kick and scream your stupid head of Tori & company. The people who are really in it for Ayla will keep doing what they are doing and guess what else? No one said liking you and not calling you crazy was a requirement to finding Ayla. You are crazy. Stupid cow.
ReplyDeleteGreat points! The family that is working the hardest to get Ayla home is certainly NOT the one who keeps saying they "just want closure". Think about that!
Delete..."will be hearing" - I appreciate reading your comments.
DeleteSo that makes it okay to bring innocent children into it if those where your babies you'd be saying otherotherwise
DeleteAnonymous 6:03
DeleteTori has brought my children into it. She has brought many other children into it besides mine. She is a vulture. She cares nothing for Ayla or any of the children she has involved. She cares only for herself and her new fame. Period.
thats not exactly true....there have been facts and comments posted on this blog before, that make the dipietro family look quite guilty of something...she could have deleted those posts but she didn't...
ReplyDeletePosting an adult's info is one thing (not that I agree with that either), but posting photos and names of children is inexcusable IMO.
ReplyDeleteYep!
DeleteIt's done. Tori should have stopped while she was ahead.
Deleteand you shouldn't have started.
Deletetsk. tsk.
Just what have you done for Ayla Inspecta?
ReplyDeleteI do believe I saw your name over at that wacko blog offering private info.
Your language shows just how intelligent you are.
Distract attention away from the DiPietro family...I bet you seriously believe that MSP are distracted in their investigation by the contents of this blog.
I don't care what anyone done posting children on the internet and exploiting then for there parents wrong doings is sick and shamfull it makes you just as awful for complying by meeting her cruelty with more cruelty. People who believe this was okay to post make me sick no matter what she did those are innocent children post about her all you want leave the children out if it!!
ReplyDeleteSo go post this on the other blog. There are innocent children there as well.
DeleteSo tell me...All this bitching about Tori getting her ass kicked and you scream foul. You know something? Phoebe and Li and Gabby took a hit because of what was said about them. I didnt hear to much shit then. ""They deserved it. They had it comin...""You make me sick.What? Its true. You people friggin cheered.That was a physical attack.Could have just as easily been a gun.Youre all whining that someone put your picture up and someone is going to do something. Well my family has been bashed so hard someone did go to their house.Someone was cheered on from these blogs. If you believe Justin did something to AYLA, so be it.You dont have to come on these blogs and instigate this shit by your words. This whole case can be talked about and debated without all that bs. If you dont like this blog...Go away! Dont read it!
DeleteIs she an ice cream, Gifford?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous- It's "vile". And that's what Tori is. You are ALL the same kind of people. The standards you apply to one side don't get applied to the other. The rules shift as soon as someone holds up a mirror.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Tori, Justin knew who she was week 1. That never stopped her from saying the things she has about him and his family. If she's not concerned that they know who she is, why would she be concerned if anyone else does?
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