To: juststopthelies@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 6:25 PM
Subject: The facts.. as we know them..
Dear Unknown; Trista and I have read through your blogs
and you do not seem to be helping the cause to Bring Ayla Home.. more like
fueling the frustration, but I will help you with a few of the facts, as I know
them in the hopes that you and your readers drift towards what is really
important.
We were told that Justin took out a $25,000 life insurance policy on Ayla 3 days after he abducted her from Becky and Jessica's care... I cannot tell you the "sources close to the investigation" we eluded to on the website (www.aylareynolds.com), but I can tell you that Justin told Trista on the steps of City Hall (Ayla's Vigil in Waterville on 1/28/12) that he switched policies and added Ayla to the new one - Speculations (through the press's research) are that he was offered a discount for this addition from a friend in Allstate who sold him the policy.. ..and that it pays double on accidental death...
One thing that you and some of your readers may not understand about Trista is that she is not capable of lying.. sometimes she misinterprets, or misreads, but in the 18 years that I have know her, she has never lied to me or anyone else I know,.. about anything.. you might say that I'm incredibly naïve or even protective, but ask anyone who knows her (including Justin - if you can) Trista is not capable of lying.. She has given you (and the press) full disclosure.. including the results of the Polygraph test on the day she took it.
We were told that Justin took out a $25,000 life insurance policy on Ayla 3 days after he abducted her from Becky and Jessica's care... I cannot tell you the "sources close to the investigation" we eluded to on the website (www.aylareynolds.com), but I can tell you that Justin told Trista on the steps of City Hall (Ayla's Vigil in Waterville on 1/28/12) that he switched policies and added Ayla to the new one - Speculations (through the press's research) are that he was offered a discount for this addition from a friend in Allstate who sold him the policy.. ..and that it pays double on accidental death...
One thing that you and some of your readers may not understand about Trista is that she is not capable of lying.. sometimes she misinterprets, or misreads, but in the 18 years that I have know her, she has never lied to me or anyone else I know,.. about anything.. you might say that I'm incredibly naïve or even protective, but ask anyone who knows her (including Justin - if you can) Trista is not capable of lying.. She has given you (and the press) full disclosure.. including the results of the Polygraph test on the day she took it.
I'm afraid I may have posed more questions than answers
in this e-mail and it was not my intension (I'm beginning to see how the
frustration comes to play here), but I have to I ask you this: if your not
capable of lying, how can you pass a lie detector test? ...what saddens me
is that we label it "a medical condition"... the Step Dad
You may post this e-mail in it's entirety.. more to come..
You may post this e-mail in it's entirety.. more to come..
What say you all? I have to admit, the "double on accidental death" gives me a horrible feeling...
The screenshot, for authenticity purposes, can be viewed here. I am hovering over the name "Jeff" to show you the email address.
The screenshot, for authenticity purposes, can be viewed here. I am hovering over the name "Jeff" to show you the email address.
seeking,
ReplyDeleteplease do not dishonor Trista's family. I appreciate the "update" you included warning commenters. They have been through more than any family should and anything less than sympathy would be evil beyond words.
Thank you.
I will allow people to question what is written, but no, I will not allow any sort of mudslinging on this post---and I will not engage in it either...
DeleteFirst, Jeff Hanson says that Justin "abducted' Ayla from the grandmother Becky and the aunt Jessica. We know this is not true, since the police were there to facilitate the transfer of Ayla.
DeleteSecond, he cites to 'speculation' by some unknown person in the media that the policy had a double indemnity provision. Doesn't sound like exactly confirmed information.
Not sure of his point in sending this email, other than to contend that Trista is incapable of lying and that is why she did not pass the polygraph. Not sure I buy that explanation.
I beg to differ with Jeff Hanson's claim that Trista is "incapable" of lying. Most human beings are fully capable of lying.
DeleteIt has seemed to me many times that Trista has been very evasive in her statements when dealing with reporters and interviewers. Being evasive is often a tactic to mislead people.
It seems like he's saying whatever her medical condition is, it causes her to not be able to lie, which caused her poly to not be able to be finished. Idk what that would be really, BUT to any parent, if your child was really MISSING (as is the case for Trista, but doesn't seem to be the case for Justin), any INNOCENT parent would feel guilt! Questions to self of, why did I let this happen, it's my fault, why didn't I do ______, why did I do _______.
DeleteThat same sentiment of human compassion should apply to ALL of Ayla's family and friends, at this point in time.
DeleteSeeking TRUTHMar 2, 2012 07:17 PM
DeleteI will allow people to question what is written, but no, I will not allow any sort of mudslinging on this post---and I will not engage in it either...
Whoa, what's going on? This doesn't sound like you at all LIES! What happened? Suddenly found a conscience? Or is this still yet another game of some sort?
I'm not going to take the bait. Let it go...
DeleteKind of hard to just let go after all of the evil spew that you put out on this blog. Just because you had a change of heart or started taking your meds or whatever happened, doesn't change what you did and make it go away. We still remember! Poor AYLA!
DeleteTrista did not FAIL a poly. She was unable to complete it. But who really cares? LE believed they had enough information and didn't not feel the need to pursue it. Justin on the other hand, did not pass it. He lied by saying he "smoked it" when in fact, he was told the exact opposite by LE. Justin insisted he passed because he "didn't see" the poly results. He likes to play with words and LE says he is not being truthful and that he could be doing more to help in the investigation.
DeleteThis quote from Trista does not give the impression she has some medical condition that makes her unable to lie---
Delete"It was suggested to me that after treatment by a medical doctor I might be able to finish the test, but the investigating authority is content with the general outcome of the incomplete test (as it stands)."
Also, right after the fact there were several comments by people that have experience with polygraphs and their opinion was that there would be no way to be "satisfied" with an imcomplete poly.
Anon 8:22
DeleteVery true they would not normally state being satisfied with and incomplete poly. The one thing that leans me personnally to Tristas' statement carrying some validity is that the MSP did not comeout and dispute her statement like they did when Justin said he "smoked it". Trista may have embellished when saying the MSP was "satisfied" but the MSP never refutted her comment so why should we?
John, were the MSP questioned by the media about whether Trista passed the poly? Not sure- I just haven't really seen any questioning of Trista from the media, so I'm not sure that the MSP has been called upon to answer to the statement. Whereas, the media has always pressed the MSP about Justin. Maybe they would say that Trista's statement wasn't true if they were asked by the media. I mean, it's just not even being done. They (the media) should at least ask the lewiston police about escorting Justin and assisting in an abduction.
DeleteI agree. I don't think that the media has questioned Trista or anything she has said, and I don't think they have in turn questioned the police about things that she said. I watch this thing in amazement, as to the typical bystander it makes more sense to think that the maternal family got pissed and concocted a way to take that baby out of the house. I would just like to see someone press that line of questioning and stop acting like wimps about it. If they're gonna act like one of the parent's feelings or grief doesn't matter in the long run becaues they only care about the missing kid, then why are they being so tender about the other parent? It's crazy to think this is all going down this way. It looks like mom's family is getting the pass-over just because the baby wasn't in their care. Call me stupid, but if there were issues between them over custody (and it sure sounds like there was!) then they have reason to have taken the kid. I'm not buying that it couldn't have happened because they can't find footprints or fingerprints. A decent criminal can cover their tracks easily, and knows how to pick a lock. And if the family is one that doesn't stress about locking doors, as some don't, then that step was unnecessary. Anyone with experience in certain professions can tell you that this scenario is plausible. Now, the blood- that's in need of explanation. They have been way tight lipped about that and haven't convinced most people that it was an amount beyond a medium cut, let's say. Which still isn't evidence of murder. I hate to be morbid here, but I'm just saying, if someone was going to get a life insurance policy with the intent of collecting on it, and then kill their kid- why do anything involving blood at all? She is only a baby. Suffocation or something wouldn't have even left a chance of that kind of evidence. Whatever. I don't have a dog in this race. just can't figure out why there are so few people out there saying the obvious.
DeleteFirst of all Trista did not say she DID pass the lie detector test so not being able to lie does not apply here....
ReplyDeleteNext as to the life ins policy get your facts straight. It was State Farm. And it def did not pay double on accidental death. And further more kidnapping is not covered by that. So either Justin was really smart by taking out this policy or really stupid which is it people? You do not collect on life ins without a body #1 and #2 if you are the murderer you also do not collect. Next question why is Trista so anxious to proclaim Ayla dead? Is she going somewhere? Perhaps wants this all swept under the carpet so she can move and go into hiding with Ayla? After all we all know there is nothing holding her here. She herself says that all the time. She is fighting with her sister, barely gets along with her mother, father wont let her in his home, barely tolerates her brothers, and says she has no support system most of the time or friends. And Last but not least what are talking about labeling something a medical condition? That was Trista herself who said she could not finish her poly because of medical condition. And it is also Trista who has said what that medical condition is.
Note: I allow this comment because it does address the email. Please keep the comments on this post clean and as respectful as possible. You can disagree with the material without disrespecting the Reynolds/Jeff Hanson.
DeleteYou are evil beyond words, anon 7:18. WHY would Trista proclaim Ayla dead? Natalee Holloway's mother is still hoping she will come home when the entire WORLD knows she will not. A mother will NEVER lose hope that their child is alive, even after they find out, they will still deny. WHAT ROCK did you crawl out from under to write the evil hate that you did? Trista, please dont read this blog. These evil words from Justin's family are being seen by God. His justice will not be hindered by a defense attorney or lack of evidence.
DeleteAnon 7:18, Have you ever heard of HUMAN decency. I wont even reply to your words, just you as a person, there is a place for you and it is not within the human race. Grow a heart and show some respect!
DeleteI haven't seen anywhere that Trista is anxious to have Ayla declared dead!? Please specify. I've seen nothing but Trista hoping, begging and pleading to SEE, FEEL and TOUCH her baby girl! Wishing to see her blue eyes, wondering about her hair and teeth etc. I think you need to go read her facebook! It is heart breaking! I don't see what you are seeing, nor any proof of that. I see a heart broken, loving MOTHER!
DeleteAs far as her family/support system. I don't know any deep, specific details as you have stated. IF any of that is true (besides the one fight with her sister), please specify. And, if any of that is even true, that MAY explain her wanting to "move on". Anyone in her situation would be in great need of support right now, more than ever. I hope you have some solid proof to be talking of her family in such a manner. IF she is really not receiving "family support", I hope she is getting support from somewhere, BUT it appears she IS getting family support.
I hope she most importantly not only has family support, but outside support for her substance abuse. It will be a life long battle, but she will be strong enough to overcome it, with support.
This YOUNG mother has been through more in her short life than most people EVER will have to. She has accepted her addiction and sought help. Some "parents" NEVER are able to do this!
Stay strong Trista! Use other peoples rudeness, ignorance, cruelness, cold heartedness to your advantage to make yourself stronger, if not for yourself, for your CHILDREN, both of them! They both need you.
I am missing the disrespect... Can you point it out please... All looks like facts to me.
DeleteThe disrespect is by again attacking Trista and her family. Jeff was kind enough to relay the information provided to them and you have immediately started accusing Trista of wanting Ayla declared decesed and then you say she probably has Ayla in hiding somewhere. Stop bashing Trista without proof, just like you do not want the Dipietros bashed without proof! If you know so much more about the LIP than Jeff and Trista, show us where the rest of us can get the information you have!
DeleteThere is no accusing, no bashing... If there was, I may agree with you. No where is there even anything there directly accusing trista, Just throwing a theory out there. I'm trying to avoid sarcasm here but, really? Did you even read this?
DeleteNo bashing, no accusing? Are you kidding me? You are dillusional if you cannot see what your words said!! It is very clear.
DeleteState farm ~ Allstate. What does it matter, just simply saying the wrong one and of what importance is the name of the company other than to the investigators?
The email may be unclear in some area but at least we are hearing something wheather everyone agrees with it or not.
Not every family has the best or a healthy back ground. Not every family gets along with ont another. This in itself in not reason to hold against either parent. When anyone doubts that Trista loves her children that person has no credibility in my book.
To Anon 12:08 I do not believe I can copy and paste all the interviews in which Trista states she just wants " closure" or she does not want to think about Ayla's last moments that would be too difficult. I am sorry what does that mean to you? To me that is a mom who has given up or is leaning towards her child being not being alive. And I am saying that I can not imagine that after only 2 1/2 months doing that. Why would a mom do that? Isn't it a mom's instinct to never give up? Yet Trista and her family have thought this from day one. Based on what? Why would you want to lean in that direction? Sorry if you think that is bashing but in this case it is a fact also. It is what she and her family have done. Why? And further more why does it bother you so much that I asked?
DeleteActually, if you go back to 12:08 I am not Anon. I have given my name because I believe if you have an OPINION, you should stand behind it. I agree with your OPINION that Trista has made several comments referring to Ayla in the past tense. That DOES NOT mean that is what she wants. I re-read your original post 7:18 of 2 Mar which said "why is Trista so anxious to proclaim Ayla dead". She is a grieving mother trying to accept what the cummulation of facts is implying. She is in no way "anxious" to accept it though nor has she given up. You asked in your latest post, "what does that mean to you", now you know what my OPINION is about the comments.
DeleteYou also ask "why does it bother you so much that I asked". The fact that you asked does not bother me at all. That is what these sites are for. People to ask questions and voice opinions. I just feel it could have been asked differently to show a little kindness and compassion to a family that is still looking for answers themselves. Why else would Jeff even bother posting if the family was no longer looking for answers or had given up hope?
Omg! This is horrible, disheartening and heart breaking! It's been easier to think of an actual accident being covered up or even a "heat of the moment" rage. The life insurance brought thoughts of premeditation. There was still hope that the life ins. was an after thought, meaning JD tried to cover something up AND, after the fact, also hoped to cash in.
ReplyDeleteWith this news I'm back again to thinking, as I was previously, that JD's attempt to stage an accident may have been botched, so removal of her body was his only option. Was she meant to be found sooner though? Thats a good question, imo.
My heart breaks for AYLA, Trista and her family over and over again! Jutice needs to be served!
In knowing that Trista reads here: Please stay strong for Ayla and her brother! I wish this nightmare could end for you. You have done the right thing for you and your children, when entering detox. I believe you will continue on your road of sobriety for AYLA and her brother! I have faith in you, as do so many others who have never even met you. I wish you and your family peace and for justice and closure. You, your family and Ayla deserve nothing less!
Im really confused why everyone is so concened with this insurence policy. I took out a life ins. policy on my 3 year old daughter when she was 1. God fobid something where to happen to her. Would I be persecuted for having an ins. policy on her?
DeleteThis e-mail is definately troubleing. Three days with double indemnity, if verified, tells me that Ayla was a possession for the Dipietro's and not a child to be loved and protected. The MSP needs to either confirm or deny this quickly.
ReplyDeleteJeff, if you read this, was the word "abducted" your wording or the wording of MSP when they informed you of these details?
I would like to note (from pictures) that Ayla appeared so happy, healthy, clean and well cared for, while in Trista's care. She was and still is clearly loved by Trista. This does not appear to be the case while in the DiPietro's care. She appears none of these things! How many "accidents" did JD think to be "normal" within 2 months? Then a "kidnapping"?? I would like it to be known that the picture(s) provided by JD, on the TLLOM website appear to have been edited! Pictures of happy, healthy, clean, well cared for BABIES do NOT need to be edited, photoshopped, airbrushed etc. I don't know how Justin, Phoebe, Elisha, Courtney and ANYONE else involved can live with themselves!? I pray for justice to be served for Ayla, also for Trista and her family. I pray every day for Ayla to be found, she does not deserve this nor whatever may have been done to her. I pray every day for that one piece of evidence to lock these monsters away!
ReplyDeleteThis is not the first time I've heard the allegations of edited pictures. Does anyone have any proof of this, or is it just a "theory" floated by a bunch of busybodies?
DeleteYou have a link? A file? Anything to back up that statement about photoshopped pictures?
Also, how does one know what photo was released by whom? Ayla's pics are everywhere at this point!
I am NOT attacking you for this post, I am asking. You do not have to respond or reply if you don't have or want to share your proof. Thanks!
You can check on the SA sight. It was first just briefly mentioned. It was then noted again. Then AGAIN noted by more people. People just looking with the "common", "naked eye". Then people circled where it appeared to be edited. Someone even used some special website to look at it. Here is ONE example, with the link. There may be more on that link (that thread/blog or a dif one, but it would be on the SA site; I'm not sure about any other sights as well):
DeleteTin Foil Fedora Feb 25, 2012 02:26 AM
Emeraldeye, fascinating website! I plugged in the picture that I showed in the earlier post with my pointers. Here are the links:
http://postimage.org/image/6s07cowod/
Now plugged into fotoforensics:
http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php? id=b699b78c47ea424b46f6d3da216356e8b8 d49ceb.22938
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http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/02/reader-submission-lemons-has-more.html?m=1
grr...when I plug that particular link in, I get nothing. It says no file found there. Thanks for posting this though, I think I'll look into the "edited" pictures a bit more at some point.
DeleteIt is laughable to cite the Statement Analysis site as a source of information. What is actually there are lies, half truths, and the ravings of lunatics.
DeleteUm, ok. So there is not one coherent thought on SA? From anyone?
DeleteThere is coherent thought on SA, but the Salem Witch Hunt atmosphere becomes so thick at times that it was a relief (to me) to find someone who was voicing some of the same questions that I had. Oddly, although the SA author frequently advocates that persistent dissenters start their own blog, when this blog author had the gumption to do so, he mocked him/her for following his own advice. Disappointingly, he refused to even name the blog that he was disparaging (although it was apparent to regular readers), and the followers came unglued. The thing is, you aren't really allowed to question outside of the SA principles, because the site is dedicated to the study of that. But, you HAVE to look at more than statements, as a prosecution based entirely on statement analysis would be absurd. Anyway, I like the comprehensive view that I find here.
Deletecomprehensive view, "jennifer"?? hahahahahah
DeleteJennifer C., there could never be a prosecution based on statement analysis. Statement analysis is not admissible in any court in the US. It is regarded as too unreliable and subjective. In other words: JUNK SCIENCE.
Deleteanon 6:05- amen to that. It couldn't be less relevant.
Deletejennifer c- I agree. I didn't know what SA was until I started following this case and I don't know what is worse- the guy writing the stuff or his groupies! lol Sad though. I imagine that law enforcement pays no mind to that kind of stuff. People are all so different, there is just no way to make these kinds of assessments!!! They are bunk.
Statement analysis is junk science. It is not normally used in the manner that Peter Hyatt performs it.
DeleteIt is used as part of an interrogation, but what Peter does not have the ability to do is follow up with the person who gave the statement. When law enforcement uses statement analysis during an interrogation, they will have the person write a statement, analyze, and then question the person about areas of deception. Some areas of deception can be cleared up, others cannot.
Peter should be honest. Statement analysis is 100% interpretation, and his bias shows.
In answer to your question about how many times Justin thought a child could be hurt/have an accident, I cant answer for him but how about I tell you about my 5 yea old son. Last month he fell in the garage and bit completly through his top lip. About 3 months agohe was climbing a tree at school, fell, and broke his arm. Last meek he was running outside on the deck, went to jump off fell down and skinned his knees and elbow up and last but not least when he was learning to ride his bike a few months ago he ran into a tree and gave himself a black eye. Im assuming because of all these injuries that makes me a unfit parent because as we all know children dont have accidents are are very carefull about everything they do.
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ReplyDeleteThanks KJ.
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DeleteI got your emails and responded. Sorry, I'm short on time today though!
DeleteI have the originals. I photoshopped them. I did it because I was making a slideshow and some of the lighting was not good, in others the emphasis was more on the surroundings than on her sweet face. If you look, for instance, at the picture of Justin with both Ayla and his girlfriend's son, I blurred the street around them, and even used tools that darkened the background so that the effect was for the subjects to "pop". I'm not at all experienced in things like that, but I had no idea that any crazy people would turn that around to say that there was something being hidden. It's stupid. I was playing around with the photo tools to make each picture have the most impact since there really aren't as many pictures of Ayla as I wish that we had. Period. GUESS WHAT... NO ONE will let this statement stand as fact. Guess why? Because it's not something that piles on the Justin as murderer theory. Well, like it or not, it's a fact. There was nothing that I was covering up. I don't know if I'll publish the originals or not now, frankly I'm so sick of all these damn games. LE: if YOU want the originals of those pictures, I welcome you to contact me. ~Angela Harry
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DeleteAngela,
DeleteI appreciate your input. I only saw one photo that was obviously altered. Ayla has on a little pink sweater, and it looks like it was airbrushed because it was dirty. There's nothing wrong with that. When a child goes missing, you want the best pictures out there. It's not like you have the opportunity to take a few snapshots and get exactly what you want. I understand that.
I also think it's kind of weird to accuse a family of releasing pictures of a battered and bruised child. Doesn't law enforcement have working eyes, just like the people online? Wouldn't they look just as closely at the pictures?
Can you please re-post this here, regarding where Ayla "normall" slept because I don't think anyone is going back to the 1st thread any time soon (except me; this case really grabbed hold of me, I want justice served for AYLA):
DeleteStephen McCausland, spokesman for Maine Department of Public Safety, said that “They said there was an abduction. That someone came in in the middle of the night, walked into Ayla’s room—which she normally doesn’t stay in—took the child and disappeared off the face of the Earth. It doesn’t meet the straight-face test.”
http://allisoninhd.wordpress.com/ 2012/02/12/practice-broadcast-to-print-story-police-say-blood-belongs-to-missing-toddler-ayla-reynolds/
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DeleteC'mon ST! All I called AH was a sicko. Thats my opinion. Theres been WAY worse opinions than that posted. That doesn't offend Trista, Ayla, her step-dad or anyone but AH.
DeleteIF you want more insight into the slide show she created, theres some on SA as well. NOT from Peter, from comments. Even if you don't agree with a lot, or ANY of what he thinks, there is A LOT of insight on there from comments.
Why??? I don't know. Check out Aliayah Lunsford. I guess some people don't have any happy, un-bruised pictures of their children.
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KJ, I have 2 children and am awaiting my 3rd grandchild. They all also got the bruises that most children get. I think though the reason most people are talking about the photoshopping is because of the Chucky Cheese Ball Pit comments. I think people naturally jump to conclusions that if the ball pit comment was a lie, maybe the phots are altered to hide even more. I may be off base with this assumption but it is just my opinion.
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DeleteAs far as the Chuck E. Cheese Ball pit. If you look at the local news pages I am sure you could find that there was a comment made by Justin when asked about "bruises" Trista had mentioned, he had stated that Ayla's bruises were a result of a scuffle in the Ball Pit at Chuck E Cheese where other kids playing with her.
Delete-ayla reynolds.com had a time line posted previously that commented about the prescence of the bruises on Ayla after she had been with Justin. Justin relays to her the info about the Ball pit (Trista had mentioned these bruises to the media at the beginning of the investigation also in a couple interviews. Trista also claims she documented the bruises in photos .
-There is only ONE chuck E cheese in Maine it is in South Portland area. You can call or go in (I have been there) There is NO ball pit. There has not been a ball pit there in ages.
If you look at all the news interview videos (through the local news) you can find the info. I wouldn't know where to tell you, I have been following case from day one and have seen them all and watched them as occured.
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DeleteFrom Angela "NO ONE will let this statement stand as fact. Guess why? Because it's not something that piles on the Justin as murderer theory."
DeleteThis is true. Those that think Justin and family are guilty of killing Ayla are not going to accept one detail that might show Justin in other than a bad light. Remember the window breaking? The SA group all tried to pin that on the DiPietro's and they were wrong.
I don't have a theory about Ayla. There is minimal information to go on, so people are making up outlandish accusations of what happened. I cannot believe that several people could know about something so sinister as killing a child and keep quiet about it. Maybe one crazy psychopath could, but not multiple people.
Put on your thinking caps, people. Do you really think Justin would voluntarily take on custody of a child so that he could abuse her and plot her death for insurance money?
so anonymous at 9:29pm on 3/2 says that there is a lot of insight on the slideshow made of Ayla, and that it comes from the comments. I just have to shake my head. What kind of insight can people have who come into a situation looking to make someone look bad, no matter how much of a stretch it is? Those people hate her! It's the weirdest phenomenon. She really doesn't appear to have done anything different than so many people but those that want Dipetro in jail for Casey Anthony's crime (hey, just do your research. They say it all the time.) just railed against her. Man! It's a friggen website with pictures and pleas for attention to the missing toddler. Originally it had a short account of who lived there, what the relationships were, and how they discovered that morning that Ayla was gone. Whether you believe that or not, you can't honestly say that repeating a story- a truthful story or one that a person made up and told her- makes her crazy. I think, and have always thought, that the reaction to it speaks volumes about the people involved in the hatefest. What she did was in no way wierd, crazy, outrageous. And don't accuse me of being a friend or family member of hers. That argument makes you all look so stupid. Any time anyone says anything that disagrees with you the first thing out of you is that the person is a "dip supporter" or "friend of so and so". I think that is sad and funny, especially since I remember reading that those people think AH is a narcissist. From what I can see she doesn't display signs of that kind of personality but those that make statements like "oh it's another pathetic dip supporter" do seem narcissistic. They honestly seem to think that every anonymous comment anywhere is coming from one of about 10 people. And they make no bones about calling one utterly stupid or possibly criminally insane. In contrast, anyone that supports their thinking- even when they are saying really illogical things and often saying kind of inhumane things...those are all lovely intelligent people. This case has brought out such ugliness and you have to wonder who it is that keeps throwing the attention on everything but the little girl.
Deleteanon 4:46 Great Post! Very well stated.
DeleteI agree anon 4:46, couldn't have said it better myself.
DeleteJust wanted to say to Trista if you are reading this, my thoughts and prayers are with you right now. We all want Ayla to come home and this ordeal to be over with and justice served. Keep strong.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you are no longer boycotting this blog. I've cleaned it up a bit; I hope I'm as welcome to post over there as you are here.
DeleteIs your email on your page? I have a question to ask you offline...
Yes, I posted the other day that I was wrong in trying to out you and have been pleasantly surprised with your blog recently. The posts on dhartania were too much! You are welcome to post on my blog. My email is justiceforayla@yahoo.com, I try to remember to post it on my posts but forget...
ReplyDeleteLOL okay. I will email you shortly! Thanks..
DeleteWow, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone!
Deletelol anon i agree!! WEIRD
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DeleteI certainly don't qualify as as expert, but I do make collages and computer art as a hobby. I don't see any evidence of anything other than the normal artistic use of filters or plugins. I've removed blemishes or unsightly debris in photos for friends and most people probably wouldn't notice with a casual look. If those pics I altered were enlarged, pixel distortion would be apparent. Near undetectible touchups are possible, but a great deal of skill, patience and time is required. I don't see anything but some softening and blurring of the backgrounds and some exposure adjustment on the TLLOM montage, the kind of thing commonly done to improve pics. Just my humble opinion.
ReplyDeleteSo are people taking this line of the letter: "Speculations (through the press's research) are that he was offered a discount for this addition from a friend in Allstate who sold him the policy.. ..and that it pays double on accidental death..." to mean that JUSTIN spoke those words? Because if you correctly follow the way it is written, the alleged words spoken by Justin end prior to the word "Speculations" and the last part "and that it pays double on accidental death" are the writers understanding of the policy. It looks as though readers are taking it as if it's Justin that said that to Trista.
ReplyDeleteAnon 9:38, No I did not take it to read that way. I took it to be a source close to the case told him and Trista of the double indemnity and Justin simply verified he did get the policy when they spoke on the steps. Maybe I took it wrong. Any other takes from anyone else?
DeleteYes, I went back and noticed this too
DeleteAlthough rereading it, the speculation may be repsonsible for the double indemnity, I am not sure. I still do not think she was told this by Justin though.
DeleteWhy should we trust Jeff Hanson's words, just because he says that she is incapable of lying doesn't mean she cannot lie. Everybody can lie, as for the Chucky Cheese ball pit comment, it is Trista's words again. Why do so many people take what she says as the truth ? How do we know she tells the truth. She may or she may not. Justin may have harmed his daughter, but Trista also had a good motive to want her daughter back, she also has a bipolar disorder, which can lead people to do stupid things. Nobody should take what she or her stepfather say for granted. The last statement from Mc Causland states that nothing had been ruled in or ruled out, and that nobody -including Trista- had been ruled in or ruled out.
ReplyDeleteWhere is it stated that she has "a bipolar disorder"?
DeleteGood question, Anon at 3:45. Those of you that believe Trista, can you tell us why you feel she is so truthful and doesn't exaggerate? The only reason I can come up with is that she helps support their 'justin did it' theory.
DeleteApparently, bipolar disorder is the medical condition she is suffering from. This is what people who know her have stated. It has not been stated by the police, as anyway most of what has been talked about so far hasn't been stated by the police but by Trista.
DeleteI see all the regular Dip Supporters are on the loose today. Pathetic.
DeleteIts not the bipolar disorder that makes it inconlusive results of a lie detector test its the medication (legal or illegal) that affect it. Since a LD goes by your heart rate etc.... any drug that affects the nervous system can make for inconclusive results. In saying this she doesnt necesarily have bipolar but perhaps she took something that would alter her nervous system.
DeleteI don't understand his last sentence:
ReplyDelete"if your not capable of lying, how can you pass a lie detector test?"
Shouldn't it be: if you're not capable of lying, how can you NOT pass a lie detector test? or if you're capable of lying, how can you pass a lie detector test?
And then: " ...what saddens me is that we label it "a medical condition"..."
Is he saying Trista did not "pass" the polygraph test? She is not capable of lying, but did not pass the test and it's being labeled as a medical condition? Makes no sense to me!!!
Trista said she would tell everyone the results when she took the LDT. She said she couldn't finish it due to a medical problem, but LE was okay with the results (paraphrased!) She led the public to believe she "passed it". IF, (and I stress "IF") she did not "pass it", she left out that important detail in her statement.
Jeff Hanson needs to clarify this, because if she did not "pass" the test, she basically lied to the public.
Apparently, bipolar disorder is the medical condition she is suffering from. This is what people who know her have stated. It has not been stated by the police, as anyway most of what has been talked about so far hasn't been stated by the police but by Trista.
ReplyDeleteApparently? I'd like to know then, all about Justin's "medical conditions" (diagnosed or not, apparently or not) and his substance abuse (diagnosed or not, apparently or not)...
DeleteMaybe Trista has Asperger's Syndrome. I'm sure it is different for everyone. Not everyone is the same. Diseases are different sometimes for different people.
DeleteSOME people with Asperber's are almost not capable of lying. They are very blunt, almost seeming rude AND saying too much (when not needed, such as some of her interviews). It can be viewed that they lack social skills due to this.
I am NOT saying this is her medical condition. I just know a lot of the "symptoms", and she actually does appear to have at least some of them, from viewing her interviews.
anon 8:17 If this were the case, then why does her story always change? IMO She does not have any symptoms of this syndrome. Even if you could say she had one of the symptoms, most people you know could also have that symptom. Most people can find at least one symptom that they fit on any given disease, doesn't mean they have that disease.
DeleteDon't give anybody ideas!
@ anon6:28 AM,
DeleteAs far as I can tell, the reason that Trista's medical conditions are being asked about and talked about is that she gave them as her reason for not completing her lie detector test. She said she was going to take one and tell the public the results. LE either doesn't or can't (not sure which) comment on the results of them. So she could say whatever she wanted, and no one asked the police- or they couldn't answer- about whether her statement was true. When Justin gave his answers, he said he passed it. When the reporter asked something about whether the police had told him he passed it, he said "they can say whatever they want". It is strange, but makes me wonder if it's something that was said because of maybe a lack of trust. It's no mystery that LE can say whatever they want in interrogations/interviews to try to get information from a person. Likely, they said any number of things to him that he thought/knew/suspected were untrue. If they had told him that they knew things they didn't know, then their bluff was called if Justin D knew those things to be false. So it would follow that they could have said something like 'well you showed deception' in whatever category; or 'you failed it'; and he might take it as further tactics on their part. So likely there was an element of him believing he passed it and not knowing for sure one way or another. Sounds feasible to me, given that it sounds like, based on his replies, that he asked to see the results. And that they didnt' show them. Sounds like he probably was told something to that effect, and was sure it had to be a tactic or they would have shown him. Doesn't mean he was right- maybe they have no obligation to show it to him. I'm just looking at it from the standpoint that this could have been what he was thinking that would have led to those kind of answers to the media. -Anissa R.
To totally hit the nail on the head Anissa
DeleteHow does Jeff know Trista for 18 Yrs ? He married Becca in 2008 ? Hmmm ?
ReplyDeleteGood question. However, I guess we can assume they were together for 14 years before they decided to get married! I find it odd that Trista has never, ever lied in 18 years!! Can anyone out there say you have never, ever, ever told a lie, or know someone that has never lied!
DeleteBut wasn't Becca married to Ron during some of those 14 years?
DeleteJennifer C., there could never be a prosecution based on statement analysis. Statement analysis is not admissible in any court in the US. It is regarded as too unreliable and subjective. In other words: JUNK SCIENCE.
DeleteAnon 5:12am said they were married in 2008. They will have been married for 4 years, this year, if that is correct. Jeff states he has known Trista for 18 years.
DeleteAre Becca and Jeff still married? Do they still live together?
DeleteMaybe he was a friend of the family before ? I have no idea, just a guess.
Deleteanon 6:14 you bring up a good point. Jeff says, "after he abducted her from Becky and Jessica's care...". It has been stated earlier, right after Ayla disappeared, that Becky and Jessica were living together (implied anyway). And, why are they not speaking up for Ayla. They both spoke once on a telephone interview, and we have never heard from them again. Becky couldn't finish a polygraph test because she was on pain killers, muscle relaxants, and anti-depression drugs. Trista gave a website, after she took her polygraph test, that gave all the reasons for not being able to take a polygraph test, etc., etc. But, Becky went to take her test while on drugs and couldn't finish it, and then offered to go off her meds for a day so she could take it again! Jessica has never taken a polygraph test, that we know of.
DeleteGood points, anon 06.54, why is everybody assuming that what the Reynolds say is the truth, so many inconsistencies and contradictions from the beginning !
DeleteExactly! So many inconsistencies and contradictions, if you are telling the truth, your story shouldn't change. But, Trista cannot tell a lie?
DeleteSo are you saying that Jeff could not have known Trista's family and they were friends prior Jeff getting married to Trista's mom? Now you're just nit picking lol. RIDIC,
DeletePeople who are bipolar know the difference between lying and the truth. The disorder does not make them incapable of distinguishing lies vs. the truth.
ReplyDeletenice trick on the E-mail address !
ReplyDeleteCould we please discuss the information we are presented with in a mature, adult manner. Thank you.
DeleteSorry, didn't understand the drop down on address !
DeleteWhat was the nice trick?
DeleteAnon 05.16, I have never said that being bipolar makes you lie, but it can certainly makes you do crazy things and be unstable. somebody was wondering about the medical condition or drugs which prevented her from taking the lie detector, apparently this medical condition is bipolar disorder, what I heard is also that she had been off her medication at some point, is she still now off her medication ? I have no idea. In all this the only person who strikes me as sincere is Ron Reynolds.
ReplyDeleteHey, sorry, I was in no way insinuating you said being bipolar makes you lie! I apologize if you took it that way!! I agree that Ron Reynolds is the only one who seems sincere. He is the only one that keeps pleading for Ayla's return. He has spoken more than either parent!
DeleteAbducted her from Becky & Jessica's care. So were the police in on the abduction also?
ReplyDeleteanon 6:44, that's exactly what i was wondering. Should someone call them and ask? and i still can't wrap my mind around if all that is true- that he 'abducted' Ayla from the sister; that they were concerned about some bruises (don't all toddlers get bumps and bruises? Might they just have been overreactive about them because of their relationship w/the father?)- then why did no one report any of this, from Trista's family. It just doesn't add up. Sorry. Just because there isn't proof that someone walked out with her doesn't mean it didn't happen.
DeleteTrista says on National TV that she had not spoken with Justin in weeks prior or after Ayla's disappearance. And yet it apparently can be proven she had. Correct me if I am wrong but is that not a lie?
ReplyDeleteWell, it certainly appears to be a lie, but according to Jeff Hanson, Trista is not capable of lying!!!!! These are facts as he knows them. Ayla was also abducted, from Becky and Jessica, by Justin, and the police were involved in this abduction. But Jeff doesn't want to add anymore confusion to this case! I am personally tired of the excuse that they can't give certain information. LE has told them, encouraged them to speak.
DeleteWhat a coincidence, Jeff Hanson speaks right after somebody reported seeing Trista with Ayla, and here he is, pouring some more blame on justin ! Why is that ?
DeleteLOL, Jeff has been talking almost every day. Just check out his blog. Yah, sure Trista has Ayla or gave her away. Guess what anon? LE SAID THEIR WAS NO KIDNAP. LE SAID THE DIPS ARE NOT TELLING The TRUTH. LE SAYS THE DIPS NEED TO STEP UP AND SPEAK. Something Trista does freely. Something Jusin avoids like the plague.
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Deletewell maybe texting is not the same as talking, when, it is about your 1 1/2 year old baby girl???
and even if trista literally was speaking words with justin maybe justin did not answer anything about ayla. maybe trista does not consider that talking.
but the police should have records of how long their conversations were or weren't.
ms.p my thoughts
I can not for the life of me understand why everyone is taking the life insurance theories as proof- when Jeff clearly calls it SPECULATION. So, in other words... it is hearsay. That's all. The words did not come from the insurance company, the PD, Justin, or even Trista. First off, it's from State Farm, not Allstate. Secondly, there has to be a body to collect on the insurance! And you don't collect if you are accused of causing the death. It's common sense.
ReplyDeleteTrista herself said she could not finish the polygraph due to a condition... so how does this mean she passed it? Seems like things are being twisted around to put the public on their side. Now, I'm the first to say, I'm not on a side- except Ayla's, but come on- she's not capable of lying?? Please. Everyone, including my 5 year old is capable of lying. And as for the "abduction"- seeing as how Trista said it was arranged between her and Justin or Ayla to be with him (or was that a lie?) I don't understand how it was an abduction. Is Family services and the PD who went with Justin aware that they assisted in such a horrific crime? I'm thinking not.
And SeekingTruth- I don't believe you are "fueling the frustration" any more than any other place... I do however, think that you are getting people to see ALL possibilities. Maybe people aren't liking that.
ditto! Other sites brush you off, or bash you, for looking at both sides.
DeleteIt is NOT speculation. Wake up. A double indemnity LIP is hinky when the scumbag was jobless, homeless (unless you consider living in your mommy's basement at age 24 manly), he was to have Ayla temporarily, LE says he/they are not doing enough to help, LE says the Dips are not telling everything they know, Ayla had bruising, a broken arm and goes missing on JDIPS watch. WHAT ISN'T SUSPICIOUS??? You prefer to call Jeff's letter a lie in favor of all the BS spewed by Justin Dip? So what if Trista didn't finish her Poly? LE felt they had all the info they needed from her at that time. You can piss and moan all day about that, but JUstin is the one who can't even admit he failed it and why? Because he "didn't see it" with his eyes, but he was TOLD it by LE. Ayla will be suing DSS for unethical practices and you can pretend you don't understand "why" that is, but you already know, you just don't like the fact that once again, Justina was involved with another skanky scheme. Why can you believe Trista said Ayla was arranged to be with Justin, but then believe nothing else she or her dad say? Justin is getting arrested and THEN everything will come out. FINALLY there WILL be justice for Ayla!!!!!!
DeleteFirst off, since he just moved his things out of an apartment, I'm assuming wasn't homeless but thought Ayla would have an easier time at his mom's home. What I am not believing is the amount of inconsistencies that is repeatedly told by Trist'a side of the family. One minute they say one thing, then the next time they speak out, it's the opposite. And the lie detector tests honestly don't mean much to me- for either of them. Because innocent people fail them, just as guilty people pass them. that's why they don't hold up in court. Besides the fact that LE can lie during investigations. It's nothing new. And if your saying that Trista doesn't lie- why shouldn't I believe her when she says Justin was to have Ayla. Why would she say that if it wasn't true. It's funny how you can be so sure that Justin was involved. Maybe you should take this info to the police instead of rambling about it on here.
DeleteMaybe you should... your words are the ramblings of a lunatic and once the Dips get arrested you'll be crying about how LE didn't follow all their leads and crying about Justin being framed. So since you have the complaints about LE, why don't you take it to them? And please... don't let the door hit you on the way out. :)
DeleteWe don't know what is fact about the insurance. When was Justin jobless and homeless? He did what Trista asked, and moved in with his mother. What BS has been spewed by Justin? What would you say if Justin couldn't finish his polygraph test? Justin said the police told him he didn't pass the polygraph test, not in those words, but saying "They can tell me whatever they want", is pretty obvious. We don't know if Ayla had bruises after being with Justin, that's Trista's words. Trista has also said (in response to the text messages, she brought up to begin with!), "“Justin thought that a lot,” said Reynolds. “He always thought that I would be the one to take her. I always wondered why he was so scared about that. Now that people are bringing it to my attention, I’m going back and saying, wait a minute. I never went to get her because I thought she was OK and well cared for.”" So what happened to all the bruises and abuse Ayla suffered while in Justin's care? Why does Trista say she doesn't have the money to retain a lawyer to sue DHHS? Why doesn't her mom or dad help her? She can get a lawyer for free!
DeleteACtually, I have no complaints about LE. I'm just stating a fact, which is that they can lie. Not sure how that equates me having a problem with them. I'm just saying that there have been major contradictions in things Trista has said, and as far as I see, Justin has been pretty straightforward. We may not have heard from him much, but he isn't out there telling 2 different stories.
DeleteAlso, while calling me a lunatic because I believe Justin is innocent might make you feel more superior, it doesn't really bother me. So call me what you want. Believe me when I tell you that none of us care what you call us. I know that every night when I go to sleep, I've done everything I can to help bring Ayla home. Can you say that? Or is the only thing you can be proud of insulting people who have different beliefs and opinions than you.
We do know there was a LIP. LE has not said it's a lie. If you choose to keep your head under a rock, that's your business.
DeleteANON 8:18/8:31, that is just so ridiculous it's not worth responding to... isn't that like saying "what if a hurricane comes tomorrow"????? I am sorry but I don't respond to "what if" questions that did not happen. Justin did take the poly and he scammed everyone with his answers about it, so to pretend he couldn't finish it is stupid and a waste of time. That is one instance of BS being spewed by Justin. You can't just make it up as you go along lol. Fine, I'll bite because you will just assume your stupid comments can't be answered, but in all rights they are too stupid to address but here goes: Justin had no job while he had Ayla. Justin did not have his own place. Living in your mommmy's basement is pathetic. IF he had a job, why couldn't he afford an apartment? No job. No home. Since when does Justin do a damn thing Trista wants? Ummmmm, never. But moving into mommy's basement with a baby is scumbag material. What major contradictions of Trista's? The only major contradictions are from Justin, but he's not talking anymore because he can't lie very well. He may be able to trick a few close friends and family like you, but the rest of the world have clear brains that are drug free and that makes it easier to see the truth. He is hiding. He is in hiding. He is scared because he knows what everyone else knows which is that he is guilty. I don't feel superior to you, and if it truly doesn't bother you that I called you a lunatic, why bring it up? You can pretend Ayla was bruise free on Justin's shift, but he responded to the bruising the BROKEN ARM which he did not seek immediate medical attention for... WHY NOT? What parent can't figure out their kid's arm is broken and take them for IMMEDIATE MEDICAL HELP???? OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! Trista said Justin wouldn't talk to her and when she called he wouldn't put Ayla on the phone and hung up very quickly. He responded to her when, or if he felt like it by text message. THEY HAD A CHILD TOGETHER and he couldn't talk to Trista any time she called??? What was more important than Ayla???????? I haven't heard Trista say she has no money for an attorney, but I'll bet she'll get one soon enough. What do you mean why don't her parents help her? What do you think her father has been doing right along? Certainly not hiding in his house like Pheebs and the rest of them. You make me laugh. You've done everything you can to bring Ayla home. Spewing Dip Supporter SPIN doesn't help AYLA. It may make Justina feel better, but it doesn't help AYLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeletePS - if he can't afford an apartment, he sure as hell shouldn't be buying life insurance.
DeleteThis is a response to anon 8:18/8:31. I don't hold Justin in the highest regards either, but much of what you say about him can be said about Trista? Am I right? From what I've read, Justin has some accommodations in the basement. I haven't any idea what that is like, nor do you. Ayla had a room upstairs. I'm placing my bet on the fact that Ayla spent most of her time upstairs with her toys and playing with Gabby.
DeleteDoes Trista have a job? Does Trista have her own apartment? Last I heard, Trista was living in a motel. I'll bet that was real homey, huh? Trista is just as much a loser as Justin, and maybe even more so. If Justin turns out to be innocent, he will get a job. Trista, what is her future looking like?
I can understand why Justin wouldn't want to speak with Trista on the phone. She's a flake and probably annoyed the heck out of him.
I think Justin passed the important questions on the Poly.
When it comes to not talking, why single out Justin. He may be ultimately responsible for what happened to Ayla because she was in his care, but others can be guilty as well. Why aren't they talking?
Yes, but he had Ayla while residing in mommy dearest's basement. And Ayla went missing with him. These can not be said about Trista. He may not have wanted to speak with Trista, but it was his responsibility while he had Ayla. He had a responsibility to let Ayla and Trista speak. He had a responsibility to update Trista on new developments with Ayla. Just because they were separated does not mean he has the right to not speak with Trista while he had Ayla with him. You may think Justin passed the important questions on the poly, but he failed the poly... which he lied about by saying he didn't "see" the test even though he was told he failed. Why would Trista have a job at this time? HER DAUGHTER IS MISSING!!!!!!!!! Justin needed a job because he is a (allegely) man, who was responsible for the care of Ayla and he needed to pay for her diapers, clothes, wipes, medical care (what a joke since he didn't do much about her broken arm) and money to let her have a Happy Meal or a new coloring book once a month. Kids cost money and you can't afford them if you don't have a job. Why single out Justin? Are you serious? The man is in HIDING!!!!!! He refuses to speak for his own missing daughter because he doesn't like the public saying mean things about him. His priorities are a little backwards there. Other aren't talking... TRUE. The rest of the DIPS and CR are just as damn guilty and I can't wait for the day they get their asses hauled in by LE and get sent to prison for the rest of their shameful, immoral, lying, drugged up lives. They are the scum of the earth and Ayla WILL GET JUSTICE!!!!
Deleteanon 9:18 If it's so ridiculous why did you respond to it? Nobody ever said Justin couldn't finish the polygraph test. Where you got that I don't know? Your comment, "Since when does Justin do a damn thing Trista wants? " I guess Trista was lying, and also how do you know anything that goes on between Trista and Justin. Oh gee, you must be family or a friend of Trista's. See how silly that sounds?
DeleteYou did not respond to Trista's comment, "I never went to get her because I thought she was OK and well cared for." Why don't you have a response to that?
The only person we have proof of having an addiction, is Trista. The rest is all rumor.
Do you have proof, other than Trista saying Ayla had bruises. She has admitted she has a problem with anger, and also had the police called on her by her sister. I don't think it was for raising her voice!
Trista did say she did not have the money for a lawyer. That is fact. I'll look it up and give you the link.
As for the broken arm, nothing hinky there, the police have already said that. But, since you bring it up, what about Ayla coming home from Justin's care (according to Trista) and she couldn't walk without difficulty. Quote from Trista's Time Line:"Later that evening, Becca noticed that she could not walk without difficulty and after a few days she was not getting any better, favoring her left foot as she walked." They waited at least three days before they took Ayla to a doctor? You don't find that odd, but you do find it suspicious that Justin waited until the next day to take Ayla to the doctor. Your words, "IMMEDIATE MEDICAL HELP???? OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!! " Your hatred spewing forth doesn't help Ayla!
I don't care if she said she had money for a lawyer. I said I didn't know about it, but is does not interest me because eventually she will get one. As for her comment, maybe since she was in rehab and trying to recover, she felt Ayla was okay at that time. I'm not a mind reader, but I'm sure she had good reason to say what she said. After all, Ayla went missing on Justin's watch, not hers. Yes, Justin in articles I have seen on news videos discusses the bruising. AGAIN, the police stating that there was nothing suspicious about Ayla's broken arm means nothing to me. As a parent, YOU DO NOT WAIT TO TAKE a child in agonizing pain for a BROKEN ARM for 24 hours or even more. THAT IS A FACT. So what is your point about the limp? Trista lied? Come on. Yes, I think there is a HUGE difference in a broken arm and a limp. Besides, if you don't believe the limp, then how can you then use it as a point? Either it happened, or it didn't... make up your mind. My words IMMEDIATE MEDICAL help, etc may not help Ayla, but your SPIN for Justin is even less helpful. Isn't a little babyish to just argue for the sake of arguing? My opinion is that of everyone not related to Justin or his friend. He killed his own baby and he abused her first. On multiple occasions. He will go down for this... BIG TIME.
DeleteI can tell you this much, when the defense tries to argue the broken arm and not taking her to a doctor, they best tread carefully, cuz it ain't gonna go down easy for regular folks. maybe friends and kin can swallow it, but no one else wil.
DeleteAnonymous @ 12:03 I was hoping for a good reply. It is highly inconsistent logic that you're using. Basically the only way I can make this equation work is to (1)assume I know how much pain Ayla was in with a broken arm vs. a pulled leg muscle. [there has been much information shared about this topic and there are doctors and emergency room nurses who've weighed in on it and said it could be that she was NOT making a fuss about the break, depending on the type]
Delete(2)Ignore what the police have outright said about it, while using what the police have alluded to or insinuated on other matters to prop up my beliefs.
Equation a is:
child injured+not seeking medical attention for 3 days-child disappearing during following month= non shitty parent.
Equation b is:
child injured+not seeking med attention for 24 hours+ child disappears following month= shitty parent.
What it boils down to then, is that your argument about seeking medical attention has to be thrown out and the shitty parent argument is based on the fact that the child disappeared, alone.
Anon 4:09 VERY WELL SAID.
Deleteanon 4:09 Your equations make no sense to me. We keep hearing how wrong it was to wait until the next day to take Ayla to the doctor. So is it wrong because Ayla disappeared 7 weeks later?
DeleteI don't believe Ayla was in writhing pain, agonizing pain, etc., that people have stated. (I will add I have a background in Orthopaedic surgery and pain management.)
A pulled muscle is also painful. Especially in the leg, that you have to walk on. So I am just comparing two different injuries and the actions that were taken.
Ayla was allowed to be in pain for 3, 4, 5 days? before being taken to a doctor!
A pulled muscle certainly deserves, as much, if not more, scrutiny as a fractured bone (of course taking in the severity of the break). It is highly unlikely that a child Ayla's age would pull a muscle.
I am also not excusing either parent of being wrong.
Nobody knew Ayla had a broken bone, or a pulled muscle, before they went to the doctor.
I guess my whole point is, let's discuss everything equally. One side should not get a break (no pun intended!) due to bias.
(typo anon 7:01)
Deleteoops! I am also not accusing (NOT excusing) either parent of being wrong.
In responce to those of you that bring up "why did he wait to get medical care". I broke my foot last year and waited a WEEK to get medical care because I didnt think I had broke it, just sprained it. Perhaps Ayla didnt complain of much pain and if it didnt bruise or look to bad I too might have waited to seek medical advise.
DeleteOf course she is liar, she said she didn't see Ayla for a while before she disappeared whereas she visited Ayla in Justin's house several times !
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ReplyDeleteBoooooooooo!!!!!! You have been so cool lately, let VT speak please.
DeleteI agree! Bring back VTLady!
DeleteShe is welcome to post here. I accidentally hit delete on her earlier post instead of marking it "not spam." I apologize VTLady, but I don't know how to make the content of that comment reappear.
DeleteHere is what VT Lady's unintentionally removed comment was:
Delete"VTLadyMar 3, 2012 07:44 AM
I commend you for taking this blog in a new direction, sT!
Good job :) "
~angela harry
I happened to have taken a screen shot of the comments happening here this morning. Don't count on it next time though! Just saw something I found interesting and that's why I had it.
Delete~a harry
Thanks, so as people can see, I did not delete her comment because it went against my views...
DeleteIf all of the statements are lined up from both sides, and all of the gossip and conjecture thrown out, and then all of the statements from LE placed in the mix, ultimately Trista looks sketchy, contradictory, and unstable. Justin looks like a man who is ignoring what is going on with public opinion and staying out of it, and he also looks like a man who has a very limited amount of circumstantial evidence against him. Let's face it folks, the MSP would not even have followed up on tips that Trista was seen with Ayla after she was reported missing if they already had their proof locked up and were just making sure that they had their P's and Q's lined up for their prosecution. They are still looking for this kid.
ReplyDeleteWell said. It's awesome seeing people with the ability to reason :)
DeleteHa, ha, ha!!! Yeah, sure, that's exactly what it looks like. If you smoke crack first.
DeleteVery well said anon 7:57. I agree:) If I were Justin I would do do the exact same thing. There is nothing he can say that will appease the public. Whether he pleads for Ayla's return, or disputes everything said by Trista, he will be bashed by the majority. And, I will add, that's what everybody is asking him to do! The majority are biased and think they have solved this case by convicting Justin. It doesn't matter what he says so he might as well keep his mouth shut to the public.
DeleteDear Friend of Justin Anon 8:31,
DeleteHow do you know what will appease the public? I would love to hear what he has to say. I would listen and I'm sure many others would too. What parent has their kid go missing and then hides away without making pleas to the public? I wouldn't give a rats ass what the public said about me. My priority would be finding MY DAUGHTER!!!! My priority would not be hiding and not speaking out for my daughter because other people might bash me. That is LAUGHABLE!!!!! It's not about him, it's about his missing daughter. The ONLY reason he is hiding and keeping his mouth shut is because LE has bagged him in lies and he knows he can't keep lying because he sucks at it. Since you will say "what lies" I will point out 2 for you. By only addressing two points, I am being kind to your brain. First, LE says he is with holding information. Second, LE says that Justin's story about kidnap is not true. Now if you'd like to go there and address all his other lies, let me know, I have all day to spend disproving Justin's antics, lies and murder.
I agree 9:38 that one should not give a rats ass to what the public thinks, that he should be out there speaking up for his daughter. There will allways be speculation about who done it..and what was done, by the public especially in a case that involves a child, and if some cannot accept this statement then they have tunnel vision and closed minds.
DeleteDear Friend of Trista Anon 9:38,
DeleteYou have no right to know what he has to say. The only reason you want to hear is to bash him! As long as he is talking to LE, I don't know what your problem is. It's NOT about you! Why do you care what he has to say, you won't believe it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, duh!
I have every right to now what he says and so does the rest of the world. And everyone will know the 911 call, the lies he gave to police when he is shown on Court TV every day during his trial. He is NOT TALKING TO LE. LE said he is not telling everything he knows. LE said his kidnap story is not true. My problem is I hate what he did to AYLA and I want JUSTICE FOR HER!!!!! He is impeding a criminal investigation as stated by LE. You're right, I love bashing him. But as a parent, if my kid goes missing, I don't care what John Q Public says about me. He is hiding. It is not about you. It is not about Justin. It is about Ayla. Why do I want to hear his words? Because I know he is guilty and everything that comes out of his mouth is torn apart because it is BS. I can't wait for his sorry ass to be arrested and for him to be sent to prison. I hear there's a few real men waiting to show him the ropes.
Deletek, that was just dripping with ignorance. You do NOT know that anyone is guilty. LE did NOT say the kidnap story is not true, they said that they have doubts, or that they don't believe it. UNTIL they find out what happened to Ayla, they CAN'T actually SAY what is NOT true.
DeleteAnd, saying that you have a right to make or demand someone to speak just shows exactly how dumb you are. No one has that right. So you don't have that right and the rest of the world does not have that right. Shall we have a debate about what rights are? I'm pretty sure I'll win.
He is not talking to LE? Really? Are you MSP? Do you know this? It is clear that he talked and talked to them for many weeks. If you look at the facts, they continually said that JD was totally cooperative. He's told them everything he knows, many times, apparently. If he's left something out, or has lied about something, someone will have to determine that. But to say that he isn't talking to LE is broadbrushing over the entire nearly 3 months and saying that he never did. That isn't true.
So when you say your problem is that you hate what he did to Ayla, and that you love bashing him, and that you can't wait for his sorry ass to be arrested and for him to go to prison where some "real" men will show him the ropes...I have to laugh. A, that you assume and are certain that you know Justin did anything is dumb. B, that admit to loving the act of bashing someone who quite possibly is not lying is just evidence that you're a little bit off your rocker and don't understand the reason for the way our laws here are written. No more Salem Witch trials, as someone above called the situation. We treat citizens as innocent unless they are proven otherwise because that's just. That *is* justice. You would want the same for yourself. We don't DO what you clearly wish you could do, in this country. C, so what you're saying is that the men already in prison for possibly terrible things are "real" men? Okay, enough said.
anon 2:44 EXCELLENT POST!!!
DeleteIf Trista does indeed have bipolar disorder, the police could not release this information to the public because it would violate a federal law known as HIPAA (the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act), which includes provisions for the privacy of health information.
ReplyDeleteI still don't get that she is unable to lie. Wasn't it George Washington who said "I cannot tell a lie"? Did he have bipolar disorder? LOL.
She cannot tell a lie. LOL
DeleteWe know who can tell a lie. JUSTIN. When he's not lying he is in hiding. What a man.
DeleteMore on this site and the broken arm:
ReplyDeletehttp://news.yahoo.com/no-case-closed-stamp-ayla-reynolds-arm-break-192900261.html
Anon 9:44-- you do know that yahoo blog articles are not a news source right? And that the police repeatedly stated after thorough verification that there was NOTHING suspicious about the broken arm?
ReplyDelete(1) With regards to the authors statement that the break is now up for "renewed scrutiniy"- Just because the insurance policy info was new to the blogosphere does not mean it was new to the police.
(2) The investigation that they did would NOT have come out differently- and resulted in them saying that the break was suspicious according to the authorities, dependant upon that information anyway. Unless what the author is saying is that the police are using bias in determining what is or isn't a fact. The medical professionals and the police either confirmed it was suspicious or they didn't. That isn't really up for interpretation.
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DeleteOf course it wasn't new to police. Why does the article offend you so much you take time to address it in pieces lol? I posted it because it was interesting and I'm sure others will enjoy it too. Also, as much as you love to repeat that police find it not suspicious, you fail to grasp the basic concept that immediate medical assistance for a broken arm on a child was not sought. That is THE only point in discussing the broken arm because it is child abuse.
DeleteAnon 10:50. The point of the broken arm is that he did not seek immediate medical attention. Try and absorb that because it is not normal for a parent of a child with a broken arm to not seek IMMEDIATE medical attention. KABEESH???!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!
ReplyDeleteSecondly, I don't care if LE said the arm is not suspicious. IT is VERY suspicious that he did not seek immediate medical attention. KABEESH?!!?!????
Lastly, you really only duplicated your last sentence. Again, I don't care whether they call it suspicious. I CALL IT SHITTY PARENTING. KABEESH!!?!?!??!?!?!?!
Okay. We can all have differences of opinion about what constitutes good parenting. I live in an...upwardly mobile..community. I have been parenting for about 20 years not. I have much life experience with kids. And parents. and I can assure you that very good, well meaning, loving parents sometimes aren't sure whether a kid needs medical attention. KABEESH????!!!???!!! It is what it is. Many situations with kids don't immediately seem to need medical attention. I could list dozens of examples right now, but intelligent people don't need me to. You're only able to say that now, because she's missing. If she were not missing, and you met the family at a picnic, and dad or grammy mentioned the situation to you and that they waited 24 hours or so because they weren't sure if it was just hurt... it's possible that you would smile understandingly and say "well, you know, parents aren't perfect and we all make mistakes. We can't know everything." Which is the kind of thing I've said many times to friends when similar things have happened. Friends who you couldn't accuse of being "shitty parents' without seeming like a complete idiot.
DeleteBut she is missing. So people can say that and it somehow seems totally "obvious" to those saying it, while seeming really a stretch to others.
A broken arm requires medication to alleviate pain. Ayla was in SEVERE pain, but daddy dearest wasn't sure she needed medical attention? Give me a break. I'm a parent and I know tons of parents and not one of them would ignore a crying child's pain. Just because DIp is your friend or family doesn't mean he is a good person. He was a shitty parent. She had bruising, a limping leg, a broken arm, she went missing while with him, she missed medical appointments, she wasn't take to timely EMERGENCY medical appointments for her arm, and LE has said the JDip is with holding information and that there was no kidnapping. That does NOT make him father of the year honey. Far from it.
DeleteI would love to hear "dozens" of examples from you.I'm sure they will expose themselves in your own words.
DeleteAnd if I met them at a picnic and Pheebs mentioned whether they weren't sure about her arm, I would tell them you don't take a chance!!!! You get help.
DeleteAyla, according to Trista's time line, came home from a visit with Justin, and couldn't walk without difficulty with her left leg. After a FEW days, she was not better and they took her to a doctor. Why did they not take her to a doctor immediately? What is the difference?
DeleteWhat does "Kabeesh" mean?
Listen, when Ayla goes missing on Trista's shift, let's talk semantics.
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DeleteYou Dip Supporters love to SPIN! Are you seriously so stupid you don't understand that not seeking immediate medical attention for a broken arm is child abuse? Don't you dare tell me LE found it not to be suspect because the point is that Justin didn't do right by Ayla. EVER.
ReplyDeleteagreed the broken arm is suspicious in that the dad did not take her to the ER
DeleteSeeking,
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing the e mail from Mr.Hanson. Interesting.
I'm not concerned about the insurance policy. I'd say his friend is a good salesman.
I can't say I believe that Trista is incapable of telling a lie. Not saying I think she has lied, though I do believe she has been inconsistent.
As for Justin, I believe he is doing the best thing for himself & Ayla by staying out of the media spotlight.
My prayers are with both parents and Ayla.
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ReplyDeleteThen it is fair to say the prosecution team is monitoring this blog as well and I think they are much smarter than the defense. Since the defense has their work cut out for them with all the lies from J and his mom etc. They have no Discovery yet, so if this truly is the best strategy they can cook up at this time, then they must know prosecutors see it and use it their advantage too.
DeleteIf you would rather share your thoughts with law enforcement, then do that and don't post any other comments? Deal. I was not told by anyone to make anything more objective, I had a very personal conversation and realized some things.
DeleteI am in TEXAS. A native Texan---born and raised. No ties to Maine or anyone in that state. Everything here is hearsay from a 3rd party and probably not admissible. Read the rules of evidence if and when you get a chance, tough guy.
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DeleteOh please. The Dips are heartless scum. Do you really think it makes sense that THEY of all people told someone to stop slandering Trista? Please, spare me. I can assume you were called a tough guy as a mock since here, SA and FInd Ayla Reynolds you sound like a know it all with a HUGE mouth. Just because you come up with a million ideas, doesn't make them all correct. Maybe LE really did tell you to be quiet, probably not, because all of a sudden you are back with guns blazing. You sound CRAZY. It's great you support Trista to such lengths, but you have no boundaries.
DeleteAre you for real!! LOL Go somewhere else if you can't play nice!
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Deletewait...okay, I was reading the above post from 'justindidit', then went back to read the post from anon 324, and then I realised something funny: Justin did it says 'Anon 324 why theh mask? I love how all these bloggers think that Anon hides them'
DeleteNow, understanding that your point is to anons not taking a screen name, I still had to laugh because the handle "Justin did it" does not make you less anonymous, as it still is not a name, sir. Funny though, to read your rant about anons. You care to share your name? Get dragged through the muck like those that bravely have posted their name throughout these last months?
-no name shared, for I don't need my life turned upside down by this nonsense.
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ReplyDeleteOH, I'm sure they will request a change of venue, but I doubt they'll get it. Even still, all the potential jurors will be voir dired and I'd like to believe the prosecution will be able to get some good jurors. After all, this isn't like the movie Runaway Jury. Defense can try saying LE leaked info, but LE really hasn't said or confirmed much. Judges just don't agree to a change of venue, they take that request seriously. Cool on the conversation with a Dip member. I'll head to Peter's and look for it.
DeleteHow do you even know Justin has retained an attorney? Sounds like one of YOUR "facts" to sway public opinion. HMMM
DeleteLOL, okay, let's say for your sake he doesn't have an attorney okay?
DeleteOnce he's arrested, he will hire one or be appointed one. HMMM
That's fine, but let's let things happen before we start leading people to believe that they already have. HMMM
DeleteGetting a little defensive huh Seeking? Where did I say he had an "attorney"??
DeleteJustinDidIt, you didn't say that explicitly. Reading your posts here and other places, I have a feeling you know why I made that comment.
DeleteJustinDidit, you might not have stated that you believe Justin has an attorney already in this post, but your entire argument that you are making hinges on that. And I think that what you're missing is that Seeking is holding a mirror up to you. You're accusing others of doing what you're doing.
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I don't find the discussion of a defense attorney a bad subject. Espec if no one is claiming he has one. Maybe I'm missing something.
ReplyDeleteBlog owner: please don't get caught up focusing attention on JustinDidIt. He is obviously delusional and disturbed. There will be no end to your efforts to reason with him, because he needs help from a professional, not from you. You are wasting your time. This is all about him getting attention for himself. Anything written by him is boring and tedious to read because he is so clearly off his rocker.
ReplyDeleteCan we please all just move on?
Yes I agree. We have moved on! :)
Deleteoops, sorry, agreed. I replied above before I read through the rest. Very true, as I've seen, that's exactly what his/her rants are about.
DeleteResponding to several diff comments here: "I cannot believe that several people could know about something so sinister as killing a child and keep quiet about it. Maybe one crazy psychopath could, but not multiple people." Unless they are in it together, all responsible or feeling guilty in some way.
ReplyDeleteRe: LE being satisfied with Trista's partial poly- it is perfectly obvious why. They didn't even care if she took one, didn't think it was necessary (this was reported in the media), so of course when she couldn't finish it, they still didn't care. They were satisfied with an incomplete poly and they would have also been satisfied with none at all.
Broken arm: it is not just the timing of the medical treatment that is a potential issue. There's a question whether the break was an accident- like Justin says- or abuse. His story of what happened the night Ayla's arm broke is not accurate. That is not proof of abuse in itself. But there are several things that don't look so good when you look at the entire picture. Why does he say he can't remember the date? Is it possibly because he doesn't want anyone to know it happened on the same day he bought the insurance on Ayla's life? Maybe, maybe not. That night was one of only three rainy nights during the relevant time period and he says it happened on a rainy night. For me, it's not his claimed overnight delay in going that makes his story problematic- I can understand how that might have happened without having sinister implications- but I think there are other indications the arm break might have been abuse.
I have a question regarding the ability to lie. What kind of medical condition would make it impossible for someone to lie? I'm not sure if Mr. Hansen meant that Trista (physically) can't lie, or if Trista doesn't realize she is lying? If a person does not believe they are lying, certainly a lie detecter test would not react accordingly. Is it that Trista can lie, but she doesn't believe it to be a lie, therefore reacts like it's the truth? Or is it that she seriously cannot lie? Confused here. Kellie A.
ReplyDeleteTrista "not capable of lying" was a poor choice of words on my part.. rather it is not in her nature to lie.
DeleteThank You for clarifying your intent Jeff. We appreciate your words and your efforts to keep Ayla in the publics eye. You are doing a very good thing for Ayla.
Delete~ I was told that Justin was at the vigal but stayed in his car. I also wonder where he lives now. People are asking regarding if Justin will plea for his daughter, certainly in a controlled environment this should be something he is capable of.
ReplyDeleteIt was reported that HT also said that Justin wanted to attend the vigal but that he was advised that his safety may be at risk. It was reported that she declined to say who advised him. I wish that someone had realized that Ayla's safety was at risk and that she had been protected somehow. I wish someone had advised and that the advice had been heeded. Is it true that Justin had felt he was being watched and that he was afraid someone was going to take Ayla away? And did another family feel that a strange car was seen and she was uncomfortable about it? If these are true then why would Justin have the baby sleeping so far away from himself? If he knows how to protect himself I would think he would do everything he could and more to protect his small child with these feelings he was having if in fact these things are true. So i am alittle baffled without knowing what's real and what is not.
Deletehttp://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/people-want-to-get-involved_2012-03-03.html
Deletehttp://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/grandmother-addresses-crowd-at-vigil_2012-03-03.html
Thanks for the links
DeleteI find it hard to believe that Trista is incapable of lying. She seems simple minded uneducated and easy to manipulate. Shes lied or bends the truth many times in interviews. Or maybe it wasn't that she did not understand the question at all. I'm not sure what it is. I have been watching this story since day 1. I have been wondering why the media reported everything that Trista has said as truth and Everything Justin has said as lies. I do believe that both of them are holding back something I don't know what it is but Im sure sooner or later it will come out. I'm pointing out My sister went to school with Trista and a relative of mine used to work with Justin. And I am neither a Justin or Trista supporter I am only following this story because I care about Ayla
DeleteGrand jury meeting march 5 thru 9. Expect an arrest.
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