When his girlfriend's sister was arrested with more than $15,000 worth of drugs in the apartment shared with Courtney Roberts, as well as Ayla Reynolds, Justin DiPietro purchased a $25,000 life insurance policy against his toddler, Ayla, 6 weeks before reporting her missing. He did not purchase a life insurance policy on his other child, even as a "rider." --Peeter Hyatt
Now Ayla and Courtney shared an apartment? Even though we know that Justin lived across the street with roommates, and that Courtney and Brianna did NOT live together, Peeter insists on this angle being included in the narrative. If the drug money was to be replaced by the LIP, wouldn't they have made it easy for themselves to actually collect the LIP---or at least try to? The drug aspect and the LIP both make no sense if you look at the whole situation. Can anyone name a case where a baby was killed so that the parents could gain life insurance money to pay off a drug debt that didn't even exist until well after the child was "killed"? Link, or it didn't happen.
Brianna wasn't arrested until January 11. The life insurance policy was supposedly taken out in October. Ayla went missing in December. How are these events related? Why does the motive (repaying drug money) arise AFTER the crime (Ayla's "murder")? This is not rocket science.
Peeter, the public or private institution of higher learning that gave you a degree should be ashamed of itself. They should give you your money back, and tell you that college isn't for everyone. I find it scary that someone with your logic has been entrusted with the safety of the children in Maine! We're all waiting for the imminent arrests you told us about months ago. I get the feeling you're one of those people who talk for the sake of hearing yourself.
In other news: the grand jury wraps up today, and there are only 8 days left to claim the $30,000 reward. WHERE IS AYLA?
Just stop the lies,
ReplyDeleteInteresting, so Courtney and Brianna didn't live together, so why are they are all saying that they lived together and that courtney's son's safety is at stake ? You make interesting points in your post. I think that Justin did something to Ayla, but I don't believe it has anything to do with the life insurance, and even less with Courtney's sister !
Not to mention that Justin did not know that he had another child and that has not, to our knowledge, been confirmed. If it is true and if he *now* knows, he did not know it before Aylas disappearance. -Ysabel
ReplyDelete"Police announced that a significant amount of Ayla's blood was found, cleaned up, in DiPietro's basement. "
ReplyDeleteFunny, I seem to have missed this announcement. I'd like to see a link to this as well.
Maybe he gets his "facts" from Honest Jeff, or he gets his Jeff from Carol Bengle Gilbert.
DeleteGT=
ReplyDeleteTraits and signs
Thomas suggests that narcissists typically display most, sometimes all, of the following traits:[5]
An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic)
Difficulty with empathy
Problems distinguishing the self from others (see narcissism and boundaries)
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury)
Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
Haughty body language
Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them (narcissistic supply)
Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
Pretending to be more important than they really are
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Denial of remorse and gratitude
that sounds familiar
DeleteSelena, I had to visit the link because I did not know who Thomas was. I was thinking, 'Now there's a hubris expert named Thomas? Where did Thomas come from?'
DeleteHuh. David Thomas - annotated work from 2010. Never heard of him!
I appreciate this statement (also from the page you cited)...
Since 2000, on psychological tests designed to detect narcissism, the scores of residents of the United States have continually increased. Psychologists have suggested a link to social networking.
Something to ponder (as with all psycho-babble) - Certainly everyone can find AT LEAST ONE of Thomas's points that can be taken and applied personally? We don't want to leave anybody behind!
Intriguing comment!
...*sighs* ummmm....ermmmm...
DeleteThat was a filter malfunction.
Dont read to much into the link...that was a "spontaneous google cut and paste reaction"...and I sited it just to be pissy.
ermmmm forgot to back my words up...
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism#Aggressive_narcissism
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/fathers_who_kill/10.html
ReplyDeleteJess,
DeleteWhere has your information come from that forms your opinion on Justin's character?
It comes from her 4th point of contact.
Deleteo_O
Delete@Selena, I have asked that question of many posters/commenters on other blogs. That's just the thing, there IS NOT information out there available that portrays Justin as any of the things they say. All there is out there, actually, is the anonymous posts of random strangers who have made up character traits for someone they don't know but who they presume guilty of a heinous crime.
DeleteThe question of why a CLIP was obtained rather than a College Savings program is the most pertinent.
ReplyDeletehttp://amateurassetallocator.com/2010/03/18/pros-and-cons-of-child-life-insurance/
I don't know if the TYPE of policy has ever been confirmed anywhere - or if it's speculation or rumor that has since become "fact." I can't find that LE ever mentioned it. I find news articles about Trista saying there was a policy, but not what type. I'm not saying Trista is a reliable source of information, although I believe Derek said there was a larger policy on Justin with Ayla as beneficiary, and a smaller one on Ayla. I don't know if we actually know what type of policy it is.
Deletehttp://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/ayla-case-highlights-insurance-on-children_2012-02-17.html
Hey Jess... I have three kids and three life insurance policies for them. If you talk to a financial advisor they can explain some of the reasona it makes good sense to do it. You don't have the final say in what makes a person a good parent. We had life insurance for our kids several years before we had savings for college for them. They are (shockingly!) Alive and thriving teenagers now. Heading towards bright careers after college. And our reasons for getting those policies still are as valid today as 16 years ago. Things happen. Terrible car accidents, terrible diagnosis, ...any of which could leave a not rich family in a desperate situation at a dark time. Financial burdens can make other difficulties much harder to bear. A financial planner can explain that to a person like you Jess, who seems to be in need of some perspective.
DeleteJust because your thoughts soumd right to you and your friends, it doesn't make it so. What I do a lot of times in life is I look at something I don't understand and try to prove my initial thought wrong. I do it consistently in my life. I look for information that contradicts my belief or assumption. Do you know what happens? Sometimes nothing I find shakes that belief. I feel confident in having scrutinized my opinion. But other times I find things that make me step back and reevaluate! Whether it have to do with personal interactions--politics--religious matters. You name the topic and this strategy works.
Maybe give it a try. Instead of wearing yourself out trying to convince people that their wrong- who well know that buying life insurance is a reasonable and responsible thing to do ... try to see if maybe you are jumping to wrong conclusions.
@Jess - *yawn*
DeleteI had a sister-in-law that used to market LIPs. They had a contest at work. She wanted the 2nd or 3rd prize (vacations), and carefully crafted the number of her sales. She didn't want the 1st prize (cash) because she knew she would never take the vacation she wanted. Go figger. Anywho, she called and offered LIPs for my children at a really good rate. I wasn't interested; but she was family. I procrastinated until she called and explained that it was an office contest and she was almost 'there'. I said ok, and she even paid the premiums (because now I had a reputation of being a procrastinator).
This LIP talk is more boring than pillow talk. These experts should get a family of their own, with extended family.
His posts about Ayla get more and more dramatic. He said arrests were imminent in the baby Lisa case too. When that didn't happen he moved on to Ayla. Now he's moved onto Isabel Celis for the most part.
ReplyDelete"I get the feeling you're one of those people who talk for the sake of hearing yourself." AND it keeps the counter ticking.
ReplyDeleteHe works for DHHS or is a social worker? That's not surprising.
I couldn't agrre more with your sentiments Obscure.
ReplyDeleteAnyone, and I mean anyone, who reads that junk at SA and puts any faith in one sentence of it, is..needs their head examined.
How did it come out that Courtney wasn't living with her sister? I haven't read anything about that. I know that at the time of Brianna's arrest, somebody at Websleuths used one of those background check sites, and that result showed Courtney's current or last known address to be the same as her sister's. I don't have any idea if the LIP, Courtney's address or any kind of drug angle will ultimately figure into the resolution of this mystery although I know these circumstances are parts of various theories concerning Ayla's disappearance. Since initial reports stated that neighbors' complaints of drug trafficking led to the arrest, I found it unlikely that anyone actually living at the home would be unaware of what was going on when it was well known to neighbors. Was Courtney living with parents or elsewhere?
ReplyDeleteI recall hearing that the Roberts' family own the building and that Brianna and Courtney maintained separate apartments in it. I don't know where I heard that, but I've heard it more than once.
DeleteProperty tax records, which are usually public info, would confirm who owns the building...hmmm
Delete@Eve
DeleteThe house they live in is an “apartment” house. Courtney and Brianna each have their OWN apartment. Just because Brianna was arrested for drugs, does not mean Courtney and Justin are drug users. It doesn’t even mean Brianna uses drugs, she maybe just liked the extra money!
The actions of one sibling does not mean all their brothers and sisters are just like them. Think about it!
Courtney has a child she cares for, she is going to college and has studying to do, and she has a job. Brianna is single and does not have children. Should Courtney be watching everyone that comes to visit her sister? You stated, “Since initial reports stated that neighbors' complaints of drug trafficking led to the arrest,…”, I am interested where you read that. Could you give a link? I believe it was rumors, which is hearsay. Are there valid reports from neighbors of a lot of traffic at the house? Could Brianna have instead, been delivering drugs to her customers? Is Courtney responsible for knowing, and/or hearing people coming and going while she was home?
Why do you, like the other blog sites, believe everything you read! Here’s an example: When Ayla was first reported missing, an article came out in a local paper, someone commented that they must have been having a party. That, of course, took off like wildfire. Now there was a party, drugs and alcohol were involved, and next thing you know, Justin murdered his daughter.
This blog does not buy into the hearsay nonsense, nor Trista’s and Jeff’s inconsistencies. Why does their story keep changing? If you’re telling the truth, why should your story keep changing. It must be hard to keep up with, when you are lying!
Signed: getrealpeople
Jean H. Lamour owns 36 Pine St (the house where Brianna was arrested). It is a 4 unit apartment building. Here's the link to the tax assessor info. :-) -Fan of Truth and Common Sense
Deletehttp://www.portlandassessors.com/searchdetail.asp?Acct=045 E044001
could you delete the last post with a link? I used the wrong address
DeleteI searched 36 Pine Street for Brianna, and this came up - a comment on SA.
DeleteRider said...
Her parent own the 4 unit building at 36 Pine where she was busted, according to spokeo.com and Portland Tax records. When it was a state charge she was looking at 18+ years. Don't know what the fed charge would be.
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DeleteI'm not posting all of their family information and addresses. That shit is not gonna fly. Try again.
DeleteObsure so you dont really want proof that they lived in the same appartment then do you. Its all public information. But hey I can see only certain shit from certain individuals flies with you!!!
DeleteIDGAF if the information is public. You can post what pertains to Courtney, and what pertains to Brianna. You can also post somewhere else if you don't like the way I moderate here. Like I said, TRY AGAIN.
DeleteHows this the two were room mates at the time. Courtney had moved out shortly after Ayla Reynolds went missing. She did this because the reporters would not leave her alone, leaving notes on her door etc.. She moved in with her other sisters family. How is that for knowledge!!!!
DeleteI knew you could do it!
DeleteEven though this comment is full of shit, I'll let it stand. Thanks for playing!
Obscure as you have stated you dont know any of the family right. So let me just say that my comment is definately NOT full of shit!!! Oh and your welcome.
DeleteThat's correct.
DeleteIt DEFINITELY is full of shit.
I think you meant YOU'RE welcome (pet peeve), but point taken.
NOPE STILL NOT FULL OF SHIT. You maybe but not me. Why dont you ask Courtney how the new member of her sisters family is doing. Oh thats right you cant cause you dont know the family. Oh and I can think of many places you can stick that pet peeve of yours!!!
DeleteI don't need to ask. =)
DeleteAnd again, you have that correct.
Prob. don't need to ask because your There !!!
DeleteYOU'RE*
DeleteAnd no, I'm not.
Are the two mutually exclusive?
DeleteROFLMAO... CUL8TR is not FOS.
DeleteAgain, ROFLMAO... Inspecta-Wrecka, the prob - a lot of them are the same person.
Again, ROFLMAO... Obscure - the answer is NO! if you mean the ET and B. But, I got an image of mixing a warm fuzzy with a F'n' L; which may really be mutually exclusive.
Pogamen, I was wondering when you would show up again. Thanks for having my back on this one!!! I look forward to reading more that you have to say. Will you keep posting here or starting your own blog? Till then I shall wait..
DeleteWhen did Courtney and Brianna stop living together? Good to know. I've never seen anything saying they moved out - when did that happen?
ReplyDeleteHave ANY of you seen anything that said they DID live together? Post a link... This goes both ways. Thx
ReplyDeletehttp://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Courtney+Roberts&sns3=t24&global=true#:1018227517
ReplyDeleteCould this be Courtney?
So what is your point, Eve? The address is ****Pine St., Apt. 1.
Deletesigned: getrealpeople
Well...this article below states that the drug bust on Brianna was at 36 Pine Street in Portland. Whitepages.com lists that same address for Courtney, so perhaps that's where people got the idea those two lived together. This info has been out for quite a while.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.pressherald.com/news/dispatches_2012-01-10.html
36 Pine St Apartment what? Does that article also say who ELSE lived in the home? No, so stop the speculation.
DeleteWhitepages.com lists them both at the same address. It also lists them at the same apartment number at that address. IN any case, while this does show they lived together I am not sure sure that means anything in regard to the LIP. They would not have to live together for that to take place, and although I believe JD is lying about knowing what happened, I don't think I am convinced he had Ayla killed to get LIP money to pay off a drug debt. Don't faint, it doesn't mean were besties now.
ReplyDeleteWhitepages.com should always be taken as gospel. Rule of life #539.
DeleteThere are multiple sites that indicate that they both have the same address and apartment number, and yet that is less believable than blindly stating they did NOT? Is this one of those "LE didn't say it so it's not true" kinda deals? The comeback above is unfortunate in that it reinforces there is a belief that anything, if said often enough, will become true. I still don't personally think it's ties to the LIP, but come on now... at least look it up before saying things like Rule of life #539.
ReplyDeleteHere's the thing. I'm not a journalist---and I don't like to use the word "sources"---but I do have them.
DeleteRule of life #873: Never doubt the Stop the Lies blogger.
@Obscure - This line of thinking is something I gave little attention to - sort of like celeb gossip. I can give a narrative that would fill in the gap, but I don't get the value. Now, why would your trusted source be less than giving over something so trivial?
DeleteEarly on, I made a comment about how so many people withheld information, or told little white lies, when the truth would have fast-tracked Ayla's recovery. A little sting now, or a deathly blow later. Obscure, this is one of those things. When FBI was there, they lost focus because of a little white lie.
New rule: Doubt the Stop the Lies blogger's source in this matter.
hmmmmm...
Delete@ Pogamen, all we've really gotten in this case is little white lies. Most of us weren't in the room when the story was told to LE, but what most people here seem to gloss over is the biggest white lie caught on tape so far: Pheobe implies she was home when stating she didn't see anything unusual. MIxing up dates of treatment that took place months prior is one thing to get wrong (as has been shown to happen via Trista and pounced on by others), but to mis-state where you were the night of the actual...ummm... abduction... well how come that doesn't make any news feed over here?
Delete*in harmony*
Deletehmmmmm
Anon, that's been discussed ad nauseum, including here. There was an excerpt from the Nancy Grace show pasted here where Susan Candiotti of CNN who interviewed Phoebe told Nancy that Phoebe talked to her in depth about it the next morning at her house.
DeleteTrista and her bf Amanda both lied on national tv about Trista's whereabouts when Ayla went missing. We didn't hear this until a couple months ago. Why doesn't that "make any news feed over there?" There's also much more to Trista's lies than "mixing up dates of treatment." See blog title "They do NOT lie."
OK, so we all know your connected to the family even though both you and the family state otherwise (and then drop little nuggets like "sources"). No biggie, I take those sort of things with a grain of salt, but probably you shouldn't say something like "Have ANY of you seen anything that said they DID live together? Post a link... This goes both ways. Thx". BTW unless you are Courtney yourself, your "source" is merely someone providing you second hand info like almost everything else in this case.
ReplyDeleteAlrighty, then. Good night/morning.
DeleteMudSlinger !
DeleteAnon 23.6.12 Second hand info, you mean hearsay? The info that you thrive on. Well you need to go back to that other blog for that, you won't find it here.
DeleteAs for you "Inspecta-Wacko, do you get your jollies acting like a vile, sub-human creature? Go away! You're pathetic! LOL
signed: getrealpeople
Ummm... hey Anon referencing Anon 23.6.12 - just a heads up that 23.6.12 is the date so you're really not referencing a specific Anon at all. But anywho...you're making some big assumptions about what I thrive on and where I visit. ALL second hand info is hearsay and that was my POINT. Anyone of us can say we see something on the net - and it's second hand. Then we can say I know someone, or I have a source... it's ALL hearsay unless someone identifies themselves as Justin, Trista, Courtney, Elisha... you know, the people who are actually on the inside. And we pretty much know that nobody here is going to actually admit they are one of those people even though they likely are posting, so your point is just a bit flat. Cute post though.
ReplyDeletei ACTUALLY DO Anon.
ReplyDeleteInspecta my chum, we would have never guessed.
DeleteI would have guessed. Many Trista supporters do. Show's the character's of the people she surrounds herself with.
Delete#1, not everyone who thinks Justin has something to hide is a "Trista Supporter". Some are, and some just look at who Ayla was with and the "story" and things don't add up. For some people, Trista doesn't even play into it. #2, do you seriously think she "surrounds herself" with all the people on the blogs? Really? That's what you think? So does that mean Justin is hanging out at the packy with all his supporters? They have dinner together a few times a week and he babysit their kids? C'mon kiddo, being that narrow minded is not a requirement here.
Delete#1 Who Trista surrounds herself with is very apparent. #2 Just look around her. And yes I DO think it is many of the people on her blogs. All you have to do is read the blog posts. And then look at her facebook pages. One and the same. Besides the people on those blogs themselves call themselves her friends. "C'mon kiddo" no narrow minds required here.
DeleteSo I will ask you this then, many people on the TLLOM site are now FB "friends" though they never met before Ayla "went missing". I don't many of them actually hang out together, but they have found support in each other. Is it a stretch for you that Trista finds comfort in people supporting her and her despair/grief/sadness... whatever the case may be? I don't think friending on FB counts as "Surrounding yourself", but if you do that's fine. Just be sure to look at everyone if you're going to play it that way... because it IS happening on both side. Actually, I think EVERY positive AND negative situation is happening on both side.
DeleteI don't get it. Why does Peeter twist the truth, and all his followers back him up and praise him. They are blatant lies. He (and his groupies) have to know that, or they must be the must ignorant people that exist. He used to work for CPS, or does he still work there?
ReplyDeleteHe used to have a bio on the site, I just looked and can't find it. He stated he had worked for the FBI or CIA at one time. Did anybody else see that, or know where to find it, screen shot perhaps? Anyway, it was unbelievable with all the crapola he spouts out!
Anyway, everything being said by these people, and LE is just unbelievable. That's all I can say!!!
Selena, first most, Ayla has disappeared. Secondly, Justin having been already found guilty by the public, and maybe LE (it seems), must be the the worst nightmare anybody could ever go through, especially for Justin. I just can't imagine! I have never followed a case, of any kind before, but I am here now to do whatever I can to see this through. You have my word, I will help Justin, however I can. I BELIEVE he is innocent.
signed: getrealpeople