Anybody who knows anything regarding Ayla's location is encouraged to contact the Waterville Police Department or the Maine State Police. Claim the 30k and clear your conscience!
I'm hoping that we will get an update after the reward expires.
It's been 6 full months; she deserves to be home with her family. Bring Ayla home!
Agree !!! 30K can pay a lot of bills, Do whats right for Ayla !!
ReplyDeleteAnd they have the available resources to proceed.
ReplyDeleteI still hear this... "Welcome to the green room."
Nothing has changed about location. It does make one wonder... a lot.
posted by pogamen 6/30/2012
Pogamen, how can you be so sure that what you think you know is factual? Are you always right? Can you prove that you've been right in the past? Maybe they followed up on the info you've provided, and found nothing. I think Ayla's alive, but she may never be found because of the people who took her making sure she isn't, and I can say things factually...but I *don't* know it for sure, and if I stated it that way, I'd sound like a kook, frankly.
Delete@Michelle,
DeletePogamen, how can you be so sure that what you think you know is factual?
Michelle, not everything I know is written on this blog. Not everything I think is represented here. Some information, if it jeopardizes innocent people, I hold close to vest. In this case, innocent people are jeopardized if I say nothing - a reversal of normalcy.
Are you always right?
This is not like any other situation I have ever involved myself in publicly or privately. It is huge and it is important. I cannot afford to be wrong in this. If I've missed something, that would be the first time. There's nothing to interpret, there's no symbolic stuff, there's nothing to get wrong. I am always weak or wrong about names. I have a bad memory for names. I have had a whole lot of assistance, especially because of that.
Can you prove that you've been right in the past?
Where people are concerned, I suppose I could, but why should I? Confirmation for myself about some events came from Obscure's posts and others' comments. A lot of the comments have helped me to recall tiny details.
Maybe they followed up on the info you've provided, and found nothing.
They did some follow up, this I already know without confirmation. Another agency did something, too. And I'm still screaming inside myself for their stupidity. I'll mention the incident after July 5. The information was not used for it's intended purpose. That is not unusual.
I think Ayla's alive, but she may never be found because of the people who took her making sure she isn't, and I can say things factually...but I *don't* know it for sure, and if I stated it that way, I'd sound like a kook, frankly.
POG with me. Press your points, one at a time. If you saw something, remove your doubt, and say it for sure. I saw something 'a thought image', that may lead some to believe Ayla was playing outside, having fun at a farm/ranch-type property. It was not a factual projection. It was not Ayla. Is this what you saw?
Michelle, this is so important that I don't care what anyone thinks - crazy, kook, whatever. I don't drink (not even beer), don't do drugs (not even pain patches when I had shingles), don't smoke cigs (but was a light smoker), no wants/no warrants, no parking tickets. I'm a registered Republican that thinks we deserve to have another 4 years of Obama. That's it for my I, I, I, I routine.
POG with me. And thanks for asking good questions.
posted by pogamen 6/30/2012
HEY POGAMEN IVE GOT ONE FOR YOU http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Pretty+Little+Liars+Theme+Song&mid=0FADEE2CFC93E22378D20FADEE2CFC93E22378D2&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1
DeleteSO TELL ME ARE THE OTHER TWO STILL SAFE?
LETS POG!!!!
@CUL8TR, put it in words. I don't look at videos, and certainly not from a blog. There's nothing to pog about without words, my choice of weapons. Many someone else can answer your Q?
DeletePosted by pogamen 7/2/2012
Pogamen-I didn't watch the video either, but I think that CUL8TR is referring to the 2 children you said were going to be abducted or something of that nature.
DeleteIt's interesting though that you seemed to have changed your mind about Ayla possibly being alive, I hope you're right. But if you know where she is you should tell someone so she can be helped.
Anon, it was confusing the way Pogamen replied to the other poster 's comment by breaking it down one query at a time. (Michelles, that is) If there had been ("quotes") around each segment it would have been clear that Pogamen *isn't* saying they believe her to be alive. Just answering Michell's statement. Pogamen believes someone (possibly known to family- but not Justin OR trista) has taken ayla and harmed her. I continue to hope this set of supposed visions by the anonymous commenter is way off base. Other psychics have "seen" that Ayla is alive, well, and hidden. They also have said neither parent is involved. Tansy F.
DeleteThanks Tansy--it's sometimes difficult to follow--but an interesting perspective.
DeleteThanks for clearing up my blogging mess. I should have offset Michelle's words. Another problem here, and with psychics, are aspects that my words fail to 'call out'. There's life, and there's life after that life, and then there's new life after that. Not all people carry their life appearance with them after death of the physical body, but Ayla did. The spiritual body is not the same.
DeleteIf I were to discuss what the psychics have seen, I could explain the where, when, and what, of their vision. Smile, she's the hostess with the mostest. She was ages ago, and she is now. She was well-met, and I have no fear of her being lost to us going forward. Yes, a living Ayla, well, and hidden from those that would do her harm (spirit) - but there's no physical body. She is already learning to create for herself.
posted by pogamen 7/4/2012
@CUL8TR, about the other two... the cases are not related, different state, different abductor, different everything, except for one commonality - and this is the crime I can't get ahead of or find someone in LE that will listen. Sorry I missed your Q.
Deleteposted by pogamen 7/5/2012
@CUL8TR,
DeleteI want to thank you for the info. Unknown Soul explained the video to me. Yes, it is relevant, but not for the two I mentioned. I appreciate your contribution. Once more, thank you for the reality check.
posted by pogamen 7/6/2012
Hey pogabob--are the rumors true?
Delete@Obscure - I didn't see your comment until now. You are, I assume, addressing me? If so, what rumors are you asking about?
DeletePlease. Please let the person who knows and has been wrestling with what to do finally follow that impulse we know they have been fighting down. Maybe you think you have a hunch! But were afraid to follow it. DO. IT. Nothing will be right in your life until you do.
ReplyDelete30000 dollars is enough to start a brand new life somewhere if you want and are afraid of local repercussions or backlash from anyone. Maybe it's what you need to change everything for the better. Sometimes in life the only way to get to the biggest rewards is to make the hard choices you are afraid of. And you'll look back someday knowing if you'd known what was on this side you never would have hesitated. THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. An improved life for you and relief for so many others. Whatever form it may take. People are tired. Please help. -yb
Ayla needs to be home with her family, but I don't believe anyone will tell where she is for the reward money. I believe anyone who knows, is involved in the crime. So, do they try to collect the money, with a possible prison sentence attached? Would they be able to keep the money if they were found guilty of participating in the abduction? I think anyone else (complete strangers), would not hesitate calling the tip line if they thought they saw Ayla, whether there is a reward or not.
ReplyDeleteSomebody needs to do the right thing, regardless of a reward. They can remain anonymous. Bring Ayla home!
signed: getrealpeople
@ pogamen
ReplyDeleteJust curious! Why do you post these “cryptic” comments? You present it as a riddle to be solved. Why can’t you tell us what you are talking about?
Are you afraid it will jeopardize finding Ayla? If so, why post at all? If what you think, is true, aren’t you afraid those that know there Ayla is will be able to decipher your cryptic hints?
Hmmmmm!
Signed: getrealpeople
@getrealpeople,
DeleteDid you know that your signature name means a lot to me? Forget about those with no bodies - get real people! Get a real policeman! Get a real ambulance driver! I'm sure you get my meaning, even if it isn't your meaning. You're good at that.
What do they say on Star Wars? Reach out and use the force, Luke! Luke isn't here - and that's good. Ooo, I'm going to get myself in hot water if I finish my thought. This is where I should delete everything after my first question. Well, maybe the question should go, too.
"Welcome to the green room." Maybe it was a clue for someone in Maine that was actually working on finding Ayla? When I think about where she is now, that's what I hear. She's still there. It's not a riddle, it's a written sign. It seemed pretty clear to me when I wrote the comment. Maybe I shouldn't have posted it, and deleted the words instead.
As for the last three questions - no; n/a; I think I wish that last scenario is true.
posted by pogamen 6/30/2012
I agree with "getreal" it's hard to follow what you are saying "pogamen" or trying to say at times and I am intrested in what your saying. Just wish it wasn't so cryptic. This is not meant to be rude or call you out, just trying to understand what your trying convey.
DeletePogamen- why do we have to wait until July 5th for you to post what you are talking about.I'll be curious to see if the post is something of value.
DeleteThe green room is what they call the waiting room one sits in before they go out into a show or news interview.
DeleteYa what anomaly said! Lol. ;P
Delete@Anomaly - huh. I didn't know that. It happens to be posted on a wall in a room that's green. The sign/small poster is green frame, with green lettering on a lighter green background. It seems/sounds surreal. It blends in to the room decor and doesn't catch the eye when scanning the room. "Welcome to the green room!" on three centered lines. Also, its not a new house. This one isn't in a waiting room. Keepsake? memorabilia? I thought it would help, anyway.
Delete@shayshay - You are precious. I would wish non-internet interests for you, compounded daily with outdoor excursions, looking at life au natural - with occassional use of telescope, binoculars, and microscope. When you see the sameness in different points of view, you won't need my pathetic words to tell you what you already know. Just between you and me - nobody else needs to know about this - when my intended audience of one reads my comment, it's not cryptic at all.
The green room is a bar in Sanford Maine. Was the first place( Sanford) that the amber alert was used in Maine.
DeleteIs AYLA IN Waterville?
Is AYLA in Winslow?
Does the green room have connections to Sanford Maine?
Is AYLA in Sanford Maine?
Is the one that the words are intended for a searcher or should be searched for?
Is the intended searching or hiding?
Is the green room in a place of business or a residence?
Is the abductor a blood relative?
*sighs*
@Selena, I haven't been able to separate the details from 1st person involvement. I believe those with knowledge should not be named to prevent 'contamination' of information. Some don't even know what information they possess.
DeleteI'm working on it.
posted by pogamen 7/4/2012
@Pogamen
DeleteI did not call your words "pathetic" and actually found what you have to say intresting. I obviously offended you in some way which was not my intention.
@shayshay - I'm the one that called my words pathetic. I don't think I offended myself, either. Please accept my apology for the misunderstanding. If you were across the table from me, you would know my goofy sense of humor. You are precious - please stay that way.
DeleteI didn't see some of these posts until today - sorry.
Pogamen I really hope you are right. I have been thinking of ayla all day.
ReplyDeletepressherald.com/news/ayla-reynoldsrewardoffer-expirestonight_2012-06-29.html
ReplyDeleteAyla Reynolds' $30,000 reward expires tonight
BY BEN MCCANNA Morning Sentinel “Ayla's mother Trista Reynolds said Friday she was holding out hope that someone would come forward with information and collect the money. It's telling that no one has, she said.”
Yes it is telling, Trista. Nobody wants to go to prison for hiding your daughter for you. You know more than you are telling LE!
(more in the article)
"They told me to hang on, to have as much faith as I can," she recalled. "I'm trying. I'm trying to keep my faith, but it's really hard when there's nothing positive to keep my faith up."
Trista has said, on several occasions, that she believes Ayla is dead. Le stated, on May 31st, that they believe Ayla is dead. What are they telling her to hang on to?
As you have stated, Trista, this not a game! Talk to Peeter, that is an admission of guilt (in other cases anyway).
Signed: getrealpeople
Trista is likely trying to hang on to the faith that her daughter, Ayla, will be found, and the one(s) responsible for the criminal acts against her will be prosecuted.
Deletethey prob just mean hold on to the hope of finding the body
DeleteIf I were the mother of a missing child I would be citing the cases where a missing child was indeed being kept hidden somewhere, and I would cling to that possibility for dear life until someone proved otherwise. I have children and in my many years as a parent I've never seen a mother asking for closure and to be able to move on after just 8 short weeks. But that is exactly what she did. Tansy F
Delete@ getreal
DeleteI noticed that GT's comments fit Trista, when I was going there...Trista fits every possible "Symptom" of guilt.Her body language does the same. "No such thing as body language" <---- a professor's quote...anyways...If one searches these things on LE sites and watches for them on all of her interviews...a check list can be made in 5 minutes.I didnt see why he was not seeing this. I fb messaged him and asked him why and asked if he would do Trista and Jessica. I apologized for saying he was an adulterer and his dog had fleas. (Kinda like what Obscure does on occasion..."taste of his own medicine")Im not sure if that was when they started calling me a drunk...or crazy. ;P Lol perhaps both. Im not an alcoholic , so I must be wackado. Ive heard that since I was little so oOOoooOOooo they hurt my feelings. At that point...I decided, I would rather be wackado...someplace else...cause I sure as hell didnt want to be sane like them :D True story. ;P
I will agree with this post, To WHOEVER HAS AYLA OR KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO HER please come foward and speak for Ayla bell!
ReplyDeleteThe fact that no one has come forward just confirms my view that a family member has Ayla. Ayla is viewed as more precious than money. That is how a family member would think.
ReplyDeleteAyla is more precious than all the gold in the world. You can't Put a price tag on a 20 month old innocent child.
DeleteI agree, Anonymous30.6.12
DeleteOr the fact that no one has come forward confirms they were more worried about going to jail. And the fact that the reward money would do them no good there!
ReplyDelete*Maybe* Trista's hope gave out because *maybe* she knows a lot more than we do from LE. No bother saying she should tell all because you don't believe her anyway. You don't even believe LE. *Maybe* they're telling her to keep up her faith for closure and to know what happened to her little girl. Right now she is the only one of them speaking up for Ayla, so she's the only one who can be scrutinized. I know I've asked many questions, but I still haven't heard a reason why random people believe so intently in Justins innocence (except from Derek and Heidi who actually know him). It still appears that if Trista has lied about what toothpaste she uses then Justin must be telling the whole truth about Ayla. The two are not mutually exclusive. It's not "pick on Justin time", it's "get some damn answers" time. When is going to be the "right time"?
ReplyDelete@Charlie
DeleteYou are really quite evasive. Do you do that on purpose? It has been pointed out to you over and over that Trista's lies are much more significant than over toothpaste. All her lies have been listed for you over and over even but you choose to ignore that. So what KEEPS being pointed out to you is that Trista has in fact been caught in many significant lies. Proving she is very capable of lying. Justin on the other hand has not. That is an important fact to note here. And also pointed out to you is the fact that Trista "having been the only one who has spoken for Ayla" is in fact not only not true but when she does speak it is most often times not for Ayla but for herself and about herself and how she feels and what has happened between her and Justin. Not about getting Ayla home. Every time Justin spoke and there were in fact at least 5-6 times he asked for help in getting his daughter home. And said he believed she was safe.
@Anon, I'm really not trying to be argumentative here (It really serves no purpose), but while I may agree that Trista's lies are significant, that is still not a reason to believe Justin is innocent of knowing what happened. I am not trying to gloss it over. For me personally, all I am saying is that it doesn't add up to murder or kidnapping. I was looking for a stand alone reason why Justin is innocent. Something outside of "Trista lies about some stuff". All I get when I ask that is "Trista lied about this or that". If that is the only reason to believe Justin then so be it, that is my answer. I keep asking the question because I ask for something that shows Justin stands on his own merits... some sort of answer without the word "Trista" in it, that's all. Derek could maybe say hey I've known him my whole life and I've never ever seen any behavior that would lead me to believe Justin could be capable of accidentally hurting his daughter and lying about it or covering for someone else who did. (Maybe he can say that?) But can you say that or can the general public? What is it about JUSTIN (not Trista) that makes you believe so strongly? No I am not asking the question again I am just explaining why I was asking it at all. I will leave and move on.
DeleteCharlie, Selena has spoken words similar to what you suggested Derek might say. (Here within the past couple weeks.) One comment in particular suggested to me how Phoebe and Elisha feel about abuse. I don't know anyone involved in this case. I feel it is totally against human nature for a father to murder a toddler and his family and friends to abide by that.
Delete@Charlie-I get what you're asking. I can give you my reasons. Let me preface my statement by saying that I do not know Justin, nor do I know anyone involved in this case. I belong to no internet support groups, secret or otherwise. I do not use Facebook.
DeleteI have never claimed that I believe Justin is innocent, but I think there is a decent case to be made for his innocence. There is nothing in Justin's history, outside of rumor, that would suggest that he wished to do harm to Ayla. If we strip away all the BS, we have a guy who was a somewhat reluctant father, but had recently decided to man-up and do the right thing. He was exercising visitation prior to taking Ayla to live with him. He took her to fun places. It appears he was trying to show her a good time. Many months ago Tori stated that Justin's roommates said he was very protective of Ayla. Trista has stated that he was NOT an uncaring parent. We have a neighbor stating that she heard Justin and Ayla in the yard singing "Twinkle-Twinkle Little Star." None of these things support the stone-cold killer theory.
When Ayla's arm was broken, Justin called Trista to say they were heading to the ER. Justin went out of his way to pick-up Ayla's mother so that she could be present for the follow-up doctor visits. This is NOT something a child abuser would do.
Ayla was reported missing from the Waterville home. Maybe I'm giving someone too much credit, but it seems to me that a murderer would seek to direct LE AWAY from the crime scene, not invite them into it. Permission was granted to search the home. From LE, we heard that the family was fully cooperating.
There were three adults in the home when Ayla went missing. No one has turned on anyone. I can think of no rational reason why any of them would cover for each other unless they were ALL involved. I can think of no scenario in which all three would be involved. If there were an accident, someone would've broken by now. I have some knowledge of LE tactics and I'm fairly certain that someone would've talked if an accident had occurred. It's important to remember that the three adults are fairly young. These aren't hardened criminals who are used to intense interrogation. This is a point that shouldn't be minimized.
We have heard no direct statement from LE regarding to the amount of blood attributed to Ayla alone. LE has been cagey on this point.
The straight-face test drives me insane. Absence of evidence of a crime does not mean that one did not occur. It is entirely conceivable that three adults would sleep though a home invasion. It happens every day. It has happened to me personally. Think about this for a minute...have you ever had something stolen from you? The change in your car ashtray? The pink flamingo in your lawn? The UPS package the driver left on the porch? Did anyone witness this? Was there any evidence left behind other than the fact that the object was gone? Does the fact that it is no longer there and no one saw what happened automatically mean that YOU were responsible for taking it? Of course not.
continued:
DeleteWe know Trista went to file for custody right before Ayla went missing. What keeps getting lost in the translation is that Trista went to file when she did because Justin had told her earlier in the week that HE was going to file. Drink that in for a minute. HE was going to file for custody. Feel free to dismiss this point because the information is direct from Trista. If you choose to accept it, ask yourself why Justin would seek to file for custody if A)according to some theories, Ayla was already dead at this point, or B)he was planning to murder her within a few days.
Justin took a Class B CDL course. This is not the same as a Class A CDL. In other words, Justin was training in a field in which he would likely be home every evening. This suggests that he was planning to be available for Ayla. This also suggests that he was "growing up" and developing a sense of permanence.
I have more, but these are just some of the reasons why I don't automatically support the "Justin did it" scenario.
@ Charlie
DeleteSince when does someone have to prove they are not guilty of murder? Especially when they have not been arrested for it and LE is not saying they have evidence to support it. I think that is exactly the problem here. People keep saying to you "what has been proven about Justin that says he has a bad character? That he may be capable of murder? Show me where you see those facts other than out of the mouth of Trista I mean.
Charlie,
DeleteI could have written the same exact reasons as "more Questions", as to why I feel that Justin did not hurt Ayla purposely, and I have in the past.
Accidently, maybe, but I don't think so. I do not believe that the 3 people in the home are covering for one another. These 3 were interrogated by some of the best of a few different LE agencies, and several times. I'm positive of that. If an accident had occured I feel certain one or more would have confessed to that.
I can not consider the more than a "cupful of blood", from Jeff.
The "more than a small cut would produce" also came from Jeff, first released at AylaReynolds.com. Not from MSP
According to Jeff the "more than a cupful" was told to them on the same day as the "more than a small cut would produce". So why wait for a couple months to release the "more than a cupfull"??
I'm not saying that it wasn't said to them. It may have been. I do NOT know in what context, or why. Maybe it was to guage Trista's or others reactions. LE will not confirm it, so I won't consider it until they do.
"Since when does someone have to prove that they are not guilty of murder..." Seriously? But you are saying Trista has to? (maybe not you "personally" but you know exactly what I am talking about). So the baby disappears in her fathers care and there is blood found and the police say outright they don't believe the fathers story... but you don't think... ah never mind.
Delete@Space - I agree, and I also believe it is totally outside of human nature for a mother to kill her daughter.
Delete@more questions
DeleteVery good post!
signed: getrealpeople
@Charlie
DeleteAre you from another country? One where they convict people and hang them without a jury? IN this country unless someone is on trial they do not have to prove their innocence. And I have not ever said Trista has to either. I however said she is a liar. That does not require a court of law to prove. And I have said that she should be considered a suspect just the same as anyone. I have not even ever said that Justin should not be considered a suspect. I understand why he is. Although I do not believe that makes him guilty. But even McCausland himself has said all along NO ONE has been ruled out as a suspect. So people can say that this is not still being looked at as an abduction but what would you call that then? Because that means anyone. And if it means anyone than that anyone would have had to have abducted her.
@Charlie - good posts, and I respect your position/semi-position.
DeleteThere's one more area that isn't mentioned much - not by you, others, or LE. Let's say 'arms in the air and one down to forget about it' and consider how we might button this up (Justin did it bandwagon).
We gotta have dirtunderthefingernails,inthetub,intheclothes,onthe floor,inthebedsheets,onthewalls.... What? Oh. She wasn't buried out by the shed, you say?
We gotta have ... sorry, Charlie. There's no need to travel this path because there's no morbid evidence to support the LE claims that Ayla was not abducted by someone that was not in that home on Saturday morning. (the use of two negatives in that sentence makes me as crazy as the straight-face test)
The evidence LE needs is not there in that house, but it MAY NOT BE GONE YET.
Space Between, S., more questions, and others have hammered on this glue until it's powder. Now someone needs to come along and blow it into nothingness. Justin did not harm his daughter. He did not remove her from her bed.
@ more questions
DeleteIt does my soul good to see a post like that. Thank you.
@ more questions awesome comment
DeleteI would like to add to your comment let's not forget that Justin not only stepped up and took care of Ayla full time for Trista while she went to get help but he moved out of his apartment and moved home with his mom per a request from Trista. Now this brings up a whole new point for me. If this was suppose to be just a 10 day thing while Trista was in rehab wouldn't it have made more sense for him just to go stay with his mom instead of picking up his whole life and moving to where he had family support to care for his daughter.
@Charlie
DeleteI'm sorry that people are jumping down your throat for asking GREAT questions. From all that I have read on here, your comments are well thought out and make fabulous points. Unfortunately, I think you are wasting your breath because you can't change a closed mind and that's all I see here. That being said, I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that Trista is being scrutinized MORE because she has been more vociferous in her quest to find out what happened to her daughter. She has been ridiculed and called a liar, among other things, but she still puts herself out there for her daughter. The very few times Justin said anything publicly he was also scrutinized closely. The difference is that Trista is brave enough (and loves her daughter enough) to endure the public ridicule but it appears that Justin can't handle the heat or the tough questions (his actions..or lack thereof..shows that he cares more about himself than Ayla). Great posts Charlie !
@ I LOVE Charlie Sheen,
DeleteI really didn't see/read anyone jumping down Charlie's throat.
Actually I saw a pretty civil discussion. Which doesn't happen on other blogs.
Perceptions I guess.
My perceptions differ greatly. Here,(this blog) I see/read comments by people with very open minds.
My perception of Justin's choice to not do the media rounds and interviews doesn't mean at all that he cares more about himself than Ayla. I see that as QUITE THE OPPOSITE.. Why? Wouldn't it be easier to do the interviews, refute what Trista says, perhaps bash her? How would that help Ayla, or to help find her? It wouldn't.
No matter what you believe happened to Ayla, Justin doing interviews isn't going to help find Ayla.
If she was abducted, do you think the person or persons who took her are going to bring her back because Justin ask or pleads for them to? I don't think so. The only thing that could help is getting Ayla's picture out there, information about HER.
The media, at this point, is far more interested in controversy, what sells, more ratings. Given this, I think Justin not doing interviews is the best thing he could do for his daughter, in the event that she is someday found and returned.
If you believe that Ayla is deceased, how is Justin doing interviews going to help find her? In that case the public is not going to find Ayla.
These are my perceptions.
Agreed, S.
DeleteAlso, "I Love Charlie Sheen" is not as open-minded as "Isthischarliesheen?" My opinion, "Isthis..." hasn't fully made her mind up what she believes, she tends to believe Justin is responsible for Ayla's disappearance but she is not president of Trista's fan club and doesn't appreciate their lies. I feel she just honestly wants to know the truth and is trying to make sense of it all. That's why she posts here. "I Love..." does not post with the same motivation.
This is one of the best debated threads I've seen in awhile. I agree with so much of what is being said. Well written everyone. Very well written. <3 you Ayla, sorry you are still going through this.
Delete@Anon, Since you started your post with "Are you from another Country", I didn't bother reading further. Hopefully it wasn't chock full of valid points about reasonable things I could be thinking about.
Delete@ More Questions - Thank you for your response to my post; I appreciate the thought and rationale behind it even if I don't personally agree on those points. We are all coming at this with different degrees of knowledge, real or imagined (or stolen from others, wink wink). It's tricky to decipher between a post written by someone with true knowledge, and those who type with far more conviction than they are entitled to. I suspect there are many who post with a "matter of fact" hand who truly don't know anything more than they read in the media. I also suspect there are some who post who are diverting the truth. I find it interesting that most of the angry, heated posts come from people you can tell can only site Blogs as their source. I will say this, there are people who do actually have valid sources who provide little nuggets of info that make it infinitely harder for them to look any other direction. Those people get told they are idiots for believing what they believe, but they cannot defend themselves because they can't take the chance of outing a source. Some of those people can read your post, "More Questions", and can see the thought process behind it, it's just that they might happen to know the difference.
DeleteI totally agree Space. I love Charlies insight and searching questions. Charlie wants to know what happened and is searching for answers where most turn their backs or post personal attacks without provocation.Charlie's comments are needed here.I wish there were more like Charlie here...we need both sides to figure this mess out. ....just sayin.
Delete@ IsthisCharlieSheen?3.7.12
Delete*snickers*
@Charlie-I would expect there to be plenty of people out there who know things about this case that I don't. When these hidden facts come to light, opinions, including my own, may change. For me, LE confirmation of the amount of blood and the method used to analyze it would be a game changer. Until then, what we have is what we have, which is really a whole lot of nothing.
Delete@Everyone-thanks for your comments :)
Some of us here don't claim to know what happened to Ayla, recognizing there are MANY possibilities, not JUST Justin. There are a number of people with means, motive, opportunity... the DiPietros, the Reynolds, the Fortiers, anyone that's ever visited the house, etc. I post here because I don't know what happened, but I know that I was tired of being force fed lies as truths, and that kind of mob mentality. Trista may be totally innocent, but if she is, why does she lie so much? Same with Jeff? This case is complex enough with the people that could be involved; their lies make it that much more complicated.
ReplyDeleteSpace...my sentiments exactly. We need some TRUTH. Truth that is not shadowed with a lie. Truth that is not spun one way and then another. What bothers me, at the moment, is LE instigating situations. They have been as untruthful as any. That thought makes me sick. How can we unravel the truth with even LE being less than honest? It's a wonder anyone can find the truth. They have done everything possible to gourde the "truth" from Justin and family. What do you say....do the same to the maternal family and friends? Its only fair. Yes, you have lost valuable evidence because of running with a gut instinct, instead of using protocol. Its time you looked elsewhere and swallow your pride. Finding AYLA is worth swallowing crow.
DeleteSelena, I agree 100%. Law Enforcements push against the Dipietro's has resulted in a very angry public and no resolution. Perhaps it is time for them to be a little more honest with the public and re-focus in another direction.
DeleteMore Questions: not sure who you are but I appreciate your post. You made some really great points.
Charlie, please understand that the questions you asked have already been answered for those needing the answers. Why would a lynchmob public believe what I have to say about Justin's character? Most of them are so narrow minded that nothing will sway their opinion until Ayla's whereabouts are discovered. Just because I trust my friend and know his character, I've seen the relationship he shared with Ayla, others have pinned me and my family into the same category as someone they believe is a murderer. Do people really think Justin would have so much support if anyone who knows him first hand truly thought he was capable of these accused actions? People need to start thinking outside the box. LE included.
@Selena and Derek
DeleteVery well stated. LE's one-track mind will never find Ayla. How can they not see that? It has been over 6 months that Ayla disappeared, and they are still at the same place they were on day one.
When someone is telling the truth, their story will never change! Get over it LE. Get on with the investigation and find Ayla!!!
signed: getrealpeople
Thank you for your post, IsThisCharlieSheen?. I agree with you.
ReplyDeleteWMTW showed a brief clip of Trista about the reward expiring. Trista said "there's no hope for someone to come out now because there is no money." Life may be that way for some, but I daresay it's not that way for most. I haven't thought in the least about the reward money, it's been irrelevant all along. People with information are not going to come forward or not come forward regardless of money. If someone finds out something and goes to call in a tip they are not going to stop because there's no reward now.
ReplyDeleteReally,
DeleteMy sentiments, exactly.
I have never seen such a hopeless Mom in a missing child's case in my entire life.
DeleteTrista's behavior had indeed been very strange. I think she is an actress and has been fooling a lot of people. She lies and lies and can't keep the all the lies straight.
DeleteThe big question is WHY does Trista lie? WHY all the acting?
An even bigger question is why did her sister Jessica Reynolds disappear right after Ayla went missing and has stayed hidden ever since?
It is unfortunate that all this has blown right past LE.
How do you spell I-N-C-O-M-P-E-T-E-N-T ?
I can't believe Trista (well actually, I can) would say that. It is really an insult to the public, to say we wouldn't come forward with any info to find Ayla, if there's not a "reward" attached.
DeleteTrista's behavior is very strange, considering her daughter is missing. She may think she's the actress, but it will all come out in the end.
signed: getrealpeople
@ Really?2.7.12
DeleteTrista said "there's no hope for someone to come out now because there is no money." Life may be that way for some, but I daresay it's not that way for most.
This is what I was talking about when I spoke about ..two subcultures, overlapping and trying to interact with each other. Thought process is totally different in some areas. Example: Jane moves to the city from the country. She moves into an apartment complex.Jane puts her garbage out on weds for the trash man.Shortly after she moves in, her garbage container outside is filled with someone elses garbage and...its really nasty. Jane complains to the land lord.The land lord says," Oh no problem! Ill talk to your neighbor on my way out.The next day Janes cat is found dead in her garbage can....Jane moves back to the country and the neighbor keeps her garbage can. Two subculture of a society. They handle things differently.
If Jane had gone across the hall and banged on her neighbors door with a bat and told them her cousin vinnie was gonna be around on trash day...Jane coulda stayed and partied on the following night with them.
Does that make sense?
Selena, yes it does.
DeleteHey people....don't you think that if Trista is dealing with bi-polar issues that she may be depressed, I know I would be, especially if my child was missing and I don't have a disorder like that. People who are depressed don't think of the glass as half full, but half empty. Everything they think is negative. Just like you want everyone to cut Justin and Co. some slack, maybe you should do the same for Ayla's mother. Mother's come in all shapes, sizes and have problems just like any other human being. But it doesn't mean that she doesn't love her daughter. I grew up with an alcoholic mother....I always knew my mom loved me and as I grew up and began living my own life with my own experiences, I began to understand that the reason why my mom drank was because of her own demons, it had nothing to do with me or my sister and it didn't mean she didn't love anyone of us kids. As I started my own family, my mom opened up to a lot of things that happened to her when she was a young mother, living in a strange town without any of her family around, just my father's family and how my grandma treated her badly. I understand now why she probably started drinking. Unfortunately, women who start out motherhood young, don't have the maturity level to comprehend a lot of things that are going on around them. I believe that your still growing up in your 20's and you really start coming into your own in your late 20's early 30's. That's why it is better to wait to start a family until you know who you are and what you want in your life. I'm just saying this because after reading all of these blogs, it seems that people think that once you become a Mom, you automatically have to be a stepford wife...I mean seriously! It's like we have to be perfect and not have any problems, not become depressed, not cry, not smile...we might as well be robots. Yes, Justin isn't judged by all of this because he is not in the public eye as much as Trista, but let me ask you, why would she be in the public eye as much as she has been if she remotely even knew where Ayla was. Now, you say that because no one really knows Justin and his family, so you don't know what kind of people they really are, it's all just speculation, but aren't you doing the same to Trista and her family. Granted, they may not be perfect (who really is)...but aren't you doing the same thing to the Reynolds family that others are doing to the Dipietros? I'm sorry, but two wrongs do not make it right.
DeleteGreat post, now go post the same thing in favor of fair treatment of the Dipietros on United for Ayla. See what kind of reception you get over there...
DeleteNEW PINK DRESS: Actually, I have come on here to see Pogamen's posts, and then I read all of the bashing back and forth, even on the other blog, which really looses my interest. From a mother's perspective, and I'm not perfect by any means, it just breaks my heart that everyone is tearing this mother to pieces when she is already broken. I pray and hope that Justin didn't have anything to do with Ayla's disappearance, because Daddy's are just as important as Mommy's and children look up to their Daddy's, especially around that age. My son is now 22 months and loves, loves his Daddy...also, reading Selena's posts about Phoebe and her tough love reminds me of my Mom....there was a few times that I was in trouble when I was young and my Mom didn't protect me one bit! And I'm glad she didn't...made me learn the hard way and it's made me who I am now. God forbid that anything ever happened to my son, I'm sure people would scrutinize everything and everyone my husband I associate with. Unfortunately, especially that Trista and Justin are not together as a couple, it is human nature that they probably have said some things to their respective family members/friends regarding this situation and more than likely have blamed one another. Anyways, this will be my last post...like I said, I was coming on here for Pogamen's posts because I find them very interesting and I do believe that people do have these types of abilities. I pray and hope that everyone can stop this bashing back and forth and just come together for Ayla. More importantly, I pray that Justin and Trista can unite and come together to find who is responsible for their daughter's disappearance and make peace with one another, because this is really doing no one any good.
DeleteIn answer to the question "why does Trista lie?".....
ReplyDeleteI'm not so sure she does lie. I think she is a bit of a space cadet and/or she may be on some kind of drug. Her mind might be in a state of confusion for various reasons causing her to become forgetful and get things mixed up. I've said it time and time again; she is not involved with Ayla's disappearance.
I am curious about Jessica's whereabouts just because I'm a curious type. She's not involved with Ayla's disappearance either.
@ Bystander
DeleteWhy?You can say it time and time again but why? How are you so sure? Are you the door man at the Maine motel?
Please, bystander, Tell me why you say that they had nothing to do with AYLA's disappearance?
Because Selena, they are too dumb to not have gotten caught by now. There was just no point to them trying to take Ayla.
DeleteDumb...ummm ok
DeleteShit...I havent got anything to say to that. I started...lol
Everyone is dumb in some ways. Just because one is dumb in some ways doesnt mean they are in others. You stay away from fines and jail time because you obey the laws. No problem. That is what you were taught and the people around you...more than likely, are the same way. Look at the type of people around them. There are plenty of people trying to stay outta LE's sights.( so they dont get caught)When they do get caught and tossed into jail...hell they learn how to do things better and sometimes, if they are lucky, they learn a few new skills. Can you honestly say that these girls dont hang around in crowds where these guys talk their shit? How do you think they survive? Manipulation. <---- normally from lies spoken. Playing one against the other. ( Wonders if that card was played with Burnboy and Justin.) Good question...hmmm anyways. This may be BS but I have watched this go down in the younger generations and in mine a hundred times or more. "Soap opera mentality." DRAMA,drugs,sex and manipulation. Addicts are pros at manipulation and lying. Being girls...hell toss in the drama. Life is exciting this way. ANYWAYS ... just my opinion.
Dont let dumb fool you.They dont have to pull nothin off because LE is lookin in the opposite direction....If that is where AYLA is ....just sayin.
Anyone hear about a fight between the two sisters after...shortly after AYLA went missing? Just wanted to know if that was out there. We do know that there was a falling out between them because Jess took off. They were bunking together.
The one where Jessica hit Trista over the head with a phone? That fight?
Delete@Bystander
DeleteROFL - I was wondering what happened to you. You know 'online speak' so well! Excellent, awesome comment!
Ditto what Bystander said.
posted by pogamen 7/5/2012
@Bystander, You say, "She's not involved with Ayla's disappearance either". How do you know this? You also said, "I've said it time and time again; she is not involved with Ayla's disappearance." Who are you that we should take you for your word, with no explanation? Please explain how you know this to be true.
DeleteBystander and pogamen: What do you know that the rest of us don't? Nobody here claims to know what happened to Ayla, or who abducted her.
Pogamen, you once thought Ayla was dead, then you thought she was alive, now you say she is dead, again?
Pogamen, where is the post you promised? It is July 6, 2012. I am interested in reading it, as I'm sure others are.
signed: getrealpeople
He doesn't have that much support. A few supporters, most of the people in the State and in this country and around the globe think he is guilty, and that he does not plead for his daughter enough. Always unavailable for comment, per the journalists who ask him to talk about his daughter.
ReplyDeleteI find it so disappointing that there has been no comment made by LE since the close of the reward money. So many people were holding there breath hoping against hope that someone would open up about Ayla. I hope it happened but unfortunately I don't feel it in my heart.
ReplyDeleteIn the beginning I feel that Ayla could've been found relatively quickly if as Selena stated "protocol had been followed". LE pigeon-holed Justin long before they had any evidence. They dropped everything and concentrated on the evidence that pointed only in Justin's direction. Regardless of the Reynolds or the Fortiers or the Linnells, if a stranger did by chance come in and snatch Ayla, LE missed the scent simply because they ignored it, not because it wasn't there. I'm sure the answer is still sitting in evidence, awaiting its day to pass more than McCausland's various sense (or nonsense) tests.
Personally I'm surprised that LE has released no details to the public that might aide them in finding Ayla, as it would appear that they've made no forward progress in this investigation. Shame, I can't help but feel that MSP botched the case from the start and is the reason why they are unwilling to part with any details.
I find it so disappointing that there has been no comment made by LE since the close of the reward money. So many people were holding there breath hoping against hope that someone would open up about Ayla. I hope it happened but unfortunately I don't feel it in my heart.
ReplyDeleteIn the beginning I feel that Ayla could've been found relatively quickly if as Selena stated "protocol had been followed". LE pigeon-holed Justin long before they had any evidence. They dropped everything and concentrated on the evidence that pointed only in Justin's direction. Regardless of the Reynolds or the Fortiers or the Linnells, if a stranger did by chance come in and snatch Ayla, LE missed the scent simply because they ignored it, not because it wasn't there. I'm sure the answer is still sitting in evidence, awaiting its day to pass more than McCausland's various sense (or nonsense) tests.
Personally I'm surprised that LE has released no details to the public that might aide them in finding Ayla, as it would appear that they've made no forward progress in this investigation. Shame, I can't help but feel that MSP botched the case from the start and is the reason why they are unwilling to part with any details.
I agree Luciferhand 100%
DeleteNot entirely sure I agree, here is why: LE has followed about a thousands tips - many having nothing to do with Justin that took them away from looking at all at Justin. Some were tips against Trista - followed, interviewed, investigated, thrown out. LE said they felt the maternal family had been completely forthcoming, so they have no further questions to ask them. Maybe when their alibis were shared with LE (not on a blog), they checked out so LE could move on. Something about the Dipietro's story did not provide them the same sense of completeness, so they would continue to focus there. I am not surprised that LE hasn't released more details publicly, and I am not convinced that doing so would necessarily enhance the public outlook on the paternal side. It might, but what if what they're holding back is something actually protecting the perpetrator right now? I apologize I must have missed the post about protocol not followed. I can't come up with anything theymissed... please enlighten?
DeleteDont get me started IsthisCharlieSheen?3.7.12 !! I post to much...and to much on this subject. Anybody?
DeleteCharlie, I'm not sure why LE would have more damning evidence against someone and not arrest them, but leave them out to roam freely in the public and to be around other small children. If they KNOW, then they are doing a huge disservice to everyone.
DeleteAs for protocol, I remember reading that initially they went into the home without protective gear. I'm not sure now where I read it or how long it was before they taped it off for the investigation.
@Charlie
DeleteI have never seen where LE has stated that they have no further questions to ask Trista and family. Please show me that link. I have however seen McCausland state they have no further questions for Justin and his family at this time. I have also never seen McCausland state that any tips against Trista were thrown out. He has stated that NO one has been ruled out as suspects in this investigation. Once again your take on things has me wondering just who you are Charlie. You have a curious way of twisting things. Reminds me of some people I know in this case. A certain family in fact that does just that to lead the public in a certain direction. Anyone else notice that in Charlie's posts? And you can say that anyone who is against one side says that blah blah blah. But that is not what I am saying. This is more specific. Look at Charlies posts. At what I am saying. He is misleading. The fact is LE has not said what he says. He is trying to throw it out there as fact when it is not a fact. Who else does that? Hmmm?
Something that makes me hmmmmmm : Why since the united blog hasnt Trista or jeff commented on anything....Why? My hope is that LE is probing a little closer. My fear...a melting back into the shadows for...what reason?
ReplyDeleteI was wondering the same thing, Selena. Has LE expanded their search? hmmmmm
Deletesigned: getrealpeople
So glad to see a news story posted about Ayla! Glad she is being kept in the news. So sad the little memorial is gone. Sounds like someone wants everyone to forget about her and move on. Highly doubt that will ever happen. Hoping for an update on the status of the investigation soon! Hope today is the day she is found!
ReplyDelete@more questions. Your logic and common sense are powerful and yet constantly overlooked or over shadowed by those who are looking further and further in the wrong direction. Thank you so much for your simplicity.
ReplyDeleteSent to WPD on 6/17/2012
ReplyDeleteTJP = ******* ******** ****** (aka ** or *****)
ABR = Ayla Bell Reynolds
I believe...
1. TJP is alive and residing in Waterville, ME, under an assumed name and/or identity of ***** ******, and suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder.
2. TJP has several real estate holdings, possibly rental property, in the local area.
3. TJP, while a guest in Mr. DiPietro's home, took ABR out of her home by drugging her and concealing her in TJP's overcoat draped over TJP's arm.
4. TJP also removed a handgun from Mr. Dipietro's bathroom closet, concealed in an overcoat pocket. Also, TJP le[f]t a copied photo of ABR in the residence living room.
5. TJP spoon-fed soup to ABR, and TJP changed ABR's pajamas to a white t-shirt that was too big for ABR. TJP spilled soup on the pajamas. ABR lost a sock while confined to a rollaway bed in an upstairs/attic room.
6. TJP purchased illegal narcotics; first, from *** ******** ***, and second, from ****** ****** while accompanied by ******** *****. Of note, the purchases are for liquid narcotics/pain killer because TJP is not able to swallow pills - preferring/needing liquid.
7. While ABR was on the rollaway bed and under the influence of narcotics, TJP folded the bed and closed the catch until it was time for more medicine.
8. TJP stopped needing ABR, and began stabbing ABR through the mattress and sheets of the upright, folded bed. One stab wound to the right rear buttocks, hit bone and may have left a distinguishable mark on the bone.
9. TJP gave the handgun to ****** and *****, and asked them to throw away a bag of trash. ***** later opened the bag, saw a blanket, and decided to keep it and see what else was still in good condition. ABR was in that bag, also.
10. ABR's body may still be located in an upstairs bedroom of a large house that is known to *****. The room was filled with dirty diapers, other deteriorating substances and a lot of flies.
11. TJP's current identity can be further corroborated by the computer/net ID found from the comments section on Stop the Lies blogsite. Search for the one-eyed dog, tomato soup, multiple anonymous comments. My own comments can be found posted by pogamen or mamamen.
12. Legitimate law enforcement personnel may contact me. Nobody is anonymous. ******************************************************
- end of report -
posted by pogamen 7/5/2012
one of two
WOW.
DeleteWow indeed!
DeleteWOW, again! This all came to pogamen in a dream! Very bizarre, at the least! "Search for the one-eyed dog, tomato soup, multiple anonymous comments." And then, " My own comments can be found posted by pogamen or mamamen." WOW, again!!!
Deletesigned: getrealpeople
This person concealed Ayla (18 months old) in an overcoat, draped over their arm?
DeleteAyla's body was in the bag (#9), then, that person took her body and left it in an upstairs bedroom of an unknown house? Is that what you are saying pogamen.
Who are you pogamen???
signed: getrelpeople
@getrealpeople,
DeleteI don't dream. It isn't so much 'how', as it is 'why' I know. For example, I don't know much about you, except that I like your handle, and I recall hearing someone that witnessed a few events in an equally untoward way. The event was shocking enough to where the 'dreamer'/'fly-by-nighter'/'empath' left in fear, while shouting... 'Get REAL people, nothing is going to come of this.' Was that you? I'm not so curious to find out. If I were, I would certainly look at it. When I have done all I can possibly do, and then some more, I will return to living my life with all privacies intact. It sucks to have the answer to a crisis, and nobody wants to hear it. I hope others have better luck with this stuff. It's just the tip of the iceberg - that's why.
@getrelpeople, Your questions are already answered. Slow down and read again. The events described occurred over weeks, not minutes.
posted by pogamen 7/6/2012
I can tell you right now that I have no idea who you are talking about. I'm calling BS! I think maybe you are the one with a personality disorder, "pogamen". Everyone has played your game long enough. I know who you are. I don't know what your game is here but I've had just about enough of it. If I, even for a second, thought I had some knowledge that would identify anyone involved in Ayla's disappearance I would be hauling ass to the police station to tell them. My IP address isn't going to help anyone identify anyone of any interest. I'm thinking... Maybe LE really needs to know who "Pogamen" is.
DeleteI agree with Tomatoe soup!
DeleteAddressing #3
DeleteHow was there a "guest" in the home "TJP" who took ABR out under coat? And LE does not know they were in that home that night? Why would the three adults who WERE in that home not have told LE that TJP was there?
@Tomato Soup who says, Maybe LE really needs to know who "Pogamen" is.
DeleteThey already do. That's what the long string of asteriks at the end of the report is all about. I agree with most of your comments. That was helpful?
@Grilled Cheese Sandwich - Ditto to most of it.
@Grilled Cheese Sandwich Addressing #3 - This is something that LE either knows or does not know. I only know what I saw. It's a really good question. I have some really good questions, too. Neither of us are going to get really good answers on a public blogsite.
posted by pogamen 7/7/2012
I would think that if LE knew that TJP was in the house that person would have been brought in for questioning. They would be under the microscope the same as the "three" in the house that night. And instead it would be "four". But all we have ever heard is three.... All Justin and his family have ever stated is three. That is a pretty significant fact to leave out. And I do not not think that it takes public blog sites to let info like that slip. If a fourth person was in that house that night someone would know and it would not take long for the public to soon know also.
DeletePogamen
DeleteI find the gun from the closet in the bathroom disturbing. How would Justin not know it was there?
@GCS, who says, If a fourth person was in that house that night someone would know and it would not take long for the public to soon know also.
DeleteYour last comments are filled with common sense, realism. I agree; it should be common knowledge. There's a lot of community-level observations that are missing from the news and blogsites. It does make one wonder. For example, there is now one neighbor that talks about Justin and Ayla singing a nursery rhyme. Initially, there were several neighbors stating they didn't know a child lived there (Gabbie, Ayla, Ayden). Both statements are accurate.
Personally, I have neighbors on each side of me. I can't tell you if they are home, away for the weekend, have guests, or a band of burglars are in their home. Not now, and not yesterday.
You wrote, 'And instead it would be "four".'
Interesting. It would have been four if Phoebe was there, but she was not. There was no 4th person in the home overnight.
[Untoward] Observations, during the evening and night of Dec 16 through the early morning hours of Dec 17, involved a lot of psychics, spirit guides, fly-by-nighters, including 'notes from tomorrow'. All agree on only one point - ABR did not leave that house during that time. Uncle Cole learned how it was done, and who entered the room during the night.
And about the gun - more understandable, and if the whole story is ever told, gun ownership will be key. Because of the gun, I expect the whole story may not be told.
I realize my responses do little to explain. I can't cherry-pick or alter what I've seen. The more I explain, the more I hear 'Who's talking?', 'Where did this come from?', 'Is your computer mike on?', and a few more stressed phrases.
Would it have been better for me not to say anything at all?
posted by pogamen 7/8/2012
@pogamen
DeleteI have no idea really if it would have been better for you to not say anything at all.
I am only asking the questions that come into my head. Not unlike perhaps you are only telling us the words that come into to yours.
@Grilled Cheese Sandwich -
DeleteYou're a whimp. You have no ideas, questions come to your head, yet not one opinion is shared for a kindness.
My post, titled 'good points', are the thoughts and words that came from (not into) my head from public knowledge and my own equated experience. There is one paragraph that I clearly marked as referring to [untoward] knowledge. The remainder of the post was for virtue of discussion.
I posted my crime tip because this has been my forum for talking about Ayla. It's only a framework, and there's plenty more details where that came from.
Take a stand, form an opinion, risk being wrong. Ayla was already doing that before the age of two. I stand in awe of who she is.
posted by pogamen 7/10/2012
Oh I am far from a wimp :)
DeleteAnd I will give an opinion when I have one. You asked "Would it have been better for me not to say anything at all?"
I have no opinion on that.
And here is a thought that comes from my head. There is no closet in that bathroom.
And I never "risk being wrong" if I am not sure about something then I am not going to state it as fact. Not my style.
@GCS - I'll risk being wrong about this... 'There is no closet in that bathroom.' is not a thought that came from your head. It came from someone that emails using the inits of CC. Of course, if you are CC, you should reposition your thoughtful posterior. CC's style is un-class.
Deleteposted by pogamen 7/11/2012
@Pogamen
DeleteWrong.
No, I can tell you, pogamen, that the information or fact, rather, that there is no closet in that bathroom comes from GCS's own mind. I know for myself there is no closet in that bathroom. No one with the initials, CC, has to email me anything either. No closet, no gun and no deal on your "crime tips".
DeleteMy God does not play games.
DeleteI want to thank Grilled Cheese Sandwich and Tomato Soup for attesting, as fact, that there is no bathroom closet in the DiPietro's bathroom at 29 Violette Ave.
DeleteFirst, allow me to correct a misunderstanding between myself and Grilled Cheese Sandwich. I did not accuse you of being a wimp. I wrote, 'You're a whimp...' It means that I believe you are a whimsical personality.
Second, the information I gave to WPD begins with the words, 'I believe...' and proceeds in a manner that was intended to relay the seriousness of my intent. I did not use the words that attest to fact, statement of fact, in fact, or first person eyewitness. I did, however, neglect to inform them that I am not a psychic.
While it is understood, I did not mention that my terminology is slightly different because I'm not a Mainer (I call it a windbreaker - Trista says it's a windjammer; that's how she knew she wasn't being accompanied to Phoebe's house by a Mainer.) I want to throw that in here, because I don't know if Trista's visit was to 29 Violette Ave. Maybe, maybe not, it looks different. Does 29 Violette Ave have a fireplace and mantle upstairs? It may be the same place with more furnishings (less sparse) than now.
So, let me say this in other, simpler words... I can only report what I saw. Are you saying that you have taken care of business (don't tell me what kind) in the DiPietro's one and only bathroom (upstairs) - you walked in, you closed the bathroom door, you looked to your left, and you saw no closet/fixture/shelves of any type that would hold things/stuff/toiletry items? Oh, one caveat required - since Dec. 15, 2011.
Now then, at the risk of sounding like a marriage counselor (I'm not), especially since Justin and Courtney aren't married (I think), let me throw some realism on your train tracks. It is nice to have shelves for 'things' and 'stuff', but that is not what Courtney meant by that. If you (Justin) can do this (DIY), then you should be able to add another bathroom. One bathroom is not enough for that many kids and adults, especially two women that need to take care of 'things' and 'stuff'.
At the risk of shining too much light at night, this is also one of the reasons some families sleep heavier or ignore sounds at night. The one and only bathroom is upstairs. A stealthy football team could have come, taken care of business, and gone. Check the tissue paper on hand.
The events I witnessed [untoward] support my comments. Since TS and GCS factually attest to no bathroom closet/shelves, then what I saw is not factual, but it is what I saw and what I believe.
@GCS - All of life is a game. War is a game. Discussion is a game. Some games come to an end, and some don't. Some games start over, and some don't. Good luck with your beliefs.
posted by pogamen 7/14/2012
@Pogamen Good luck with your beliefs. All of life is not actually a game. Sad that you think so. Not even in the eyes of a child sometimes especially in the eyes of a child. And what I said is that my God does not play games.
DeleteMy God doesnt either...and there are "shelves", a place to put things, to the left of the mirror.
DeleteExpanded comments regarding my 'Crime Tip', not provided to LE...
ReplyDeleteFirst, I appreciate Waterville Police for not responding with a knee-jerk reaction. WPD - everyone should know that if they wanted to, they could have 'dirtied him up' and set up plenty of morbid evidence - they didn't. As for the rest of them, I'll save my comments on what I heard and saw.
1. I chose to leave the initials 'TJP' because she is considered deceased. In fact, there is a man in prison that was convicted of her murder. Also, I'm no expert on Multiple Personality Disorder. My determination is solely dependent on observations of TJP and her own words and thoughts. I did not mention TJPs physical/medical? alterations.
2. Multiple meaning - not just real-estate - multiple personalities time-share the same body. One weak personality is not informed.
3. TJP almost, but not completely, felt regret for taking the toddler from a person that accepted her as one of the 'men'.
4. Handgun - there's a lot of angst about this. Fact - Justin DiPietro did NOT own or possess a handgun. He was NOT aware that the handgun was in his home. TJP would have found the mushrooms, too, but there was a noise outside the bathroom door, which caused TJP to exit - finding nobody outside the door. Also, I corrected a misspelled word - left.
5. The white t-shirt tells another story, and confirms previous 'images' belonging to TJP. One sock on, one sock off - that is the way ABR left that house. I believe a repairman has removed the sock, a piece of metal that came from a light bulb, and a one dollar bill from TJP's washing machine.
6. TJP's use of narcotics was mostly due to collar bone injury, but not completely.
7. Nothing more to add.
8. There were other wounds inflicted on ABR. There is a list of items that I would look for, if I were LE and really wanted to get involved in this shit-storm, but I'm not LE and LE has not contacted me for additional information.
9. Oh, you gotta love this. (conversations held over gun)
10. Ripley's believe it or not... One of the Waterville police officers passes by this house to and from home, somewhere in/near Unity, ME.
11. I see where I left out a key word regarding 'multiple anonymous comments' - I'll leave it a mystery, or a punch line.
12. There's not much more to say about this.
In summary, there is a larger reason for not waiting much longer for resolution in ABR's case. This is why I am publicly posting what I gave Waterville Police. I've seen some things that shouldn't have to happen, and I believe they won't happen if this shroud of secrecy is dissolved. It's a recurring theme - there's a problem with #4.
Note: The whole country is aware that Maine is a sanctuary state. We have had that same problem in Alaska, only it isn't exactly state sactioned. I don't care who is providing credentials and identities to newcomers in Maine, but I have seen a few MSPs involved. And it comes up again, and again, and again. Huh. They f'd up the beginning, they f'd up the end. Take a look at the middle and see if an honest day's work can be done.
posted by pogamen 7/5/2012
two of two
Excuse me Selena, but I am going to copy you.
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Pogamen reminds me of a very dear friend of mine who passed about 5 years ago. One of the most interesting people I've ever known, I spent as much time with him as I could. Oftentimes I was perplexed, but still fascinated. Along with all that I didn't understand (or necessarily agree with), was a very tender heart. He was intelligent, passionate, creative and sometimes his flashes of vision proved true in my temporal, organic understanding. I think his visions were often symbolic and not physical reality. (Mostly I said "Ok?") One time we were eating lunch and he randomly looked up at me and asked "who's 'Douglas'?" (name changed to protect the innocent) I asked "huh?" He said "I thought you said Douglas." I replied "I didn't say anything." This was about 12 years ago, at the time I'd just started talking to Douglas. We became a couple and are still together.
ReplyDeleteThanks for that Space. I just dont know what to say...so I should say nothing at all.That was...quite clear and quite graphic.What I would expect a stranger abduction to be. I pray that you are soooo wrong Pogamen...as I am sure you pray that as well. Thank you, for following through, Pogamen.
ReplyDelete@Space, thank you for your undeserved kind words. I know your story is true. I want to ask you a question (actually 1 or 2), but I don't want to freak you out.
ReplyDelete@Selena, thank you. I've done more than pray for wrongness.
posted by pogamen 7/8/2012
pogamen - above you asked if it would have been better if you'd said nothing at all... many of us asked you to share your understandings, some of us have even persisted in doing so (even after you said you felt that Ayla was deceased) you agreed to and you followed through. You didn't ever once say "you are going to love what I have to say" and in fact we knew that it wasn't going to be a pleasant read. Understandably, though, reading the words takes one aback, but we made the choice to find the post and read it through.
ReplyDeleteFeel free to ask your question(s) pogamen.
pogamen - regarding your #8 "TJP stopped needing ABR" - why did s/he need ABR in the first place? and why did that change?
ReplyDelete@Space - 'stop needing'
ReplyDeleteI can't give that info out. Excellent catch (insight) in your part.
Regarding your friend who passed... I knew him [in an untoward way]. He's living a good life today, not in preschool yet. I don't want to string this out in a public forum, but I was wondering if you would tell me how he died.
posted by pogamen 7/10/2012
@Space Between, thank you
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