If a beautiful child was not missing, it would be hilarious to read the stuff that some people come up with. I have to admit though, as I read this garbage, it got increasingly funnier and I did laugh uncontrollably at one point. It's not that I have a weird sense of humor, it's that I really can't believe anyone would be this freakishly sick.
Point 1...you just made up an amount. No logical way to do that, and police have not confirmed ANY amount. 1/2 cup of blood is completely speculation. It's not even based on any sort of mathematical formula or scientific inquiry. One side says 4 drops, one side says 1 cup, and the village idiot comes up with some completely unrelated, totally random amount. Well, okay.
Point 2...there was no appointment on the 12th, it was on the 16. This very major flaw in your theory pretty much discounts the rest of it, but we'll keep going, for the sake of...nothing, we'll just keep going.
Point 3...if Ayla bled to the point of needing medical attention for survival, an arrest would have already been made. Justin was responsible for her welfare, he could have at least been charged with neglect or endangerment.
Point 4...you just randomly blamed Courtney Roberts for cleaning up the blood. You don't even try to offer a logical explanation, because you don't have one. You also say that Ayla may have been injured before the 16th---you don't know when Courtney would have been in the home before that date to clean up blood.
Point 5... Again to say who cleaned up and who covered up contradicts your earlier assertion that this may not have happened on the 16th.
Point 6...the suggestion that a bayonet or knife was used? A firearm? Whoa. You've got serious issues. If she was shot, there would be a distinct pattern of blood splatter. Automatic cause for arrest. If she was stabbed, there would be a very distinct blood splatter pattern. Again, automatic arrest. We're talking droplets so small no human would be able to see them, let alone clean them up.
Despite all of that stupidity you've already wasted your time typing, you continue on to blame a 2 year old child for killing Ayla? You actually had the nerve to type that Ayden was caught with a home protection pistol, and Ayla was bleeding? How would covering up protect a child from trauma? Do you think he would be arrested and sent to jail? Do you think he'd wake up the next day and say "oh shit, I killed my friend?" No, it would be regarded as a terrible accident, and the most anyone would be facing would be charges related to allowing access to the firearm by a young child.
Can anyone post one picture of Justin with either a black eye or a swollen nose?
Note: I don't mean to attack this person at all, but shouldn't he be recovering from the heart attack he supposedly suffered---and not playing on the internet implicating a very small child in murder of another child? That's really bad karma, dude. You're a sick mother fucker. Excuse my language, but what he posted was some of the most vile and nasty shit I have ever read. Just disgusting.
Although I usually don't agree with you on any platform you take concerning this case I have to agree with this post: Complete Rubbish!
ReplyDeleteTalk to yourself much?
DeleteWhat's that supposed to mean?
DeleteHere is the proof for POINT #2 that the appointment was on the 16th right out of Jeff's mouth for anyone who would like to dispute it
ReplyDeleteAnswers For AylaMar 23, 2012 02:39 AM
Kit; You are correct, It was the 12th and thank you for pointing that out to us.. but to answer the rest of your question: The Dec 8th follow up visit was moved up to Dec 16th by the receptionist (assuming doctor availabilty). Justin missed that appointment
Reasons given for Trista filing for parental rights on the 15th was missed appointments. Looks like the appointment wasn't missed until the 16th that day after she filed and maybe it was rescheduled not missed.
John P has a very vivid, out of control, imagination.
ReplyDeleteyou should catch him in bed
DeleteI read some of the responses to this. One that came up, which I've seen before, is about "the escalating abuse" of Ayla. I have a hard time making sense of that one. Reportedly, Justin was going to return Ayla to Trista after she got out of rehab. If he was having a hard time handling her, why didn't he just give her back to Trista? If Phoebe saw abuse why wouldn't she tell him to give her back to Trista? Why would his friends and family stand by and watch that happen, or know that is was happening and not do anything about it? They weren't "trapped" in having to take care of her, they chose it. If he knew he couldn't handle it, why didn't he just pass her off to Trista and her family when they met him at the doctor's office? I don't believe he would put up with the "aggravation" (not being able to handle a child, dealing with Trista, changing his life, etc.) in order to get out of paying a small amount of child support or "revenge" on Trista. I don't believe he was violent and hateful towards her, though he may have been awkward and clumsy with her. I feel he wanted Ayla because he wanted to be her father, and that being with him and his family was safer for her. Sadly, she is missing. We don't know what happened. Whatever happened, what Justin knows or suspects, I'm sure he'd give anything to go back in time to stop it from happening.
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen a pic of Justin that looks that way to me. I thought Lance looked like he may have been in a scrape of some sort in this picture. http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Ayla-Plea.html
ReplyDeleteIt's their natural good looks.
Deleteassfsdassfds, how about you go back under the bridge where you came from?
DeleteTo me, Lance's face just looks shaded from being in the doorway.
No, it's clearly just highly pixelated from the snapshot being blown up so far. And so some tinge of red cast from somewhere, when blown up to that size, is made to look like something was actually on his face. But takes only a very cursory glance to realize that.
DeleteYeah, I've read many convoluted and vile senarios and theories on how Justin and family killed and disposed of Ayla. Some pretty sick stuff out there. Most of it about 90% fact free.
ReplyDelete...but not statistic free... 1200 kids die a year at the hands of their parents... THAT IS A YEAR....
Delete....and how common is stranger abduction??? RARE. and is there proof of stranger abductin. NO.
Jen. The proof is the missing child.
DeleteThere is not, however, proof of a murder or abuse.
Very good points Anonymous 12:31
DeleteThis whole thing is leaning towards homicide. LE doesn't have to let the public know or make arrests. They want their ducks all in a row. I'm sorry but you just don't randomly see 2 DA's and homicide detectives.....that have been seen in AP photos.....show up just because. There are many other accidental child deaths and custody issues. And you don't see that type of attention for those cases. And it seems highly improbable that Trusts would murder her child.
ReplyDeleteThis whole thing is leaning towards homicide. LE doesn't have to let the public know or make arrests. They want their ducks all in a row. I'm sorry but you just don't randomly see 2 DA's and homicide detectives.....that have been seen in AP photos.....show up just because. There are many other accidental child deaths and custody issues. And you don't see that type of attention for those cases. And it seems highly improbable that Trusts would murder her child.
ReplyDeleteRuby, I hadn't noticed the 2 DA's and homicide detectives in pictures, not that I would recognize them or know what their presence indicates. I hope they are wrong... well, obviously, we all do.
DeleteThere are multiple AP pics with them. I believe one is where a homocide detective is leadin in two DA's
ReplyDeleteWell Selena you know what they say about bad association
ReplyDeleteThese people are brought in when there is evidence that indicates a homicide. Plain and simple. If they thought otherwise they would have focused on putting out more alerts for a missing Ayla. I don't know officials personally but I recognize faces and names. They are public figures. The writer of this blog can blog from far away, DIPS and Tudelas, and Angela Harry can put on the blinders. But these people DON'T come in for missing/kidnapped/live individuals. Wouldn't that be a waste of their time? Other types of detectives would be involved.
ReplyDeleteI read the news article on the 2 D.A's that visited the DiPitero home. It was on Dec. 22, about 5 days after Ayla was reported missing. 4 months ago.
DeleteI don't know standard procedure in Maine, However,
Brenda Kielty said the visit to Ayla’s father’s home by Stokes and Andrew Benson, another top homicide prosecutor, was “standard protocol.”
I know for certain that there were many searchs for Ayla well after 5 days, even the first month. MSP has encouraged, and is still encouraging, the familys to speak out about Ayla, to keep her name in the media and public attention.
Why would they do that if they knew she was decceased?
RUBY, interestingly a little ways down you say a few things about yourself, your actions, and your online behavior that you will contradict on this blog post as well as in others and on other blogs.
DeleteFor instance, here you accuse people who are also close to the situation and are waterville locals of simply having blinders on. You are condescending and have an attitude that only people who agree with you are using common sense. Later in this conversation you hold up your opinion of the entire Dipietro family & their friends (no parameters) because YOU have local insight and insider knowledge. What you disregard is that others also have local insight and know the Dipietros, and friends of friends. They have opinions that are in direct opposition to yours for the SAME reasons, in part. Talking to people who knew Justin in high school has brought opposite understanding. Now the question is, why is your valid and theirs not?
Let me speak to your upcoming statements... I'm not sure you realize that Justin is 25 and that who one was or what they did in high school (pot) is not by any means an automatic indication of what they are up to 6 years later. I can give many many examples of people who continued on a drinking and drugs path and destroyed themselves. In contrast I can give many more examples of people who tapered that out of their lives and grew up. Something I don't love is that many adults carry on reaaonably productive lives and still smoke pot at least minimally. Have you EVER LISTENED to Hollywood? They weave pot into conversations and scripts at every turn because they believe it's no biggie. So it's no wonder Justins generation has that idea.
But even so, you take someones observations OR repeats of rumors they heard more than 6 years ago during high school as current FACT. Then hypocritically, you tell another commenter that she is simply stating rumors and it's not fair to factor them in. On the heels of that, you say that YOUR rumors are magically a "piece of the puzzle". Hmm.
You tell someone else to calm down and be civil, but in many other posts you are foul, accusatory, hateful, and anything but civil. That is called a double standard.
You are welcome to your opinion about what "must be". As am I. You don't know who has the blinders on until the truth is revealed. Maybe you could use your real name so that when the time comes we can write up the lists. It seems that most people holding out hope who aren't willing to make the assumptions are being attacked and ridiculed by their full names. By people who use pretend internet aliases. That's fair....
Funny too how you mention that keeping Aylas name in the news is "great" but you ridicule Angela H for having done so. It's all she ever tried to do. She believed from the start that if everyone was saying he little girl must be dead that no one in the larger public or in the media would pay any attention to Aylas story. It is remarkable that she has stuck in there since she has been ruthlessly slandered and publicly ridiculed for really doing nothing wrong. Has even been called evil. That's just nuts.
The point is you don't appear to know what exactly you stand for. You bend your expectations and rules to suit your own behavior at any given moment. That is actually what the majority of the people on your side do and can't admit it. _7
The searches for Ayla are ground searches. Why oh why would there be ground searches 1, 2, 3, 4 months after a child is missing? It's not that hard to figure out. Right off in the beginning cadavor dogs were used. Keeping Ayla in the news, asking families to speak for her is great. It does keep her in all of our minds. It might lead to more tips for criminal activity of those involved. There are SOP's in place for when children under the age of 3 are found dead and there is a body. But so far there is no sign of a live or dead child. Just lots of evidence. And if they found evidence early on to lead them to believe she is deceased that is why they brought in the legal aid and LE that they did.
ReplyDeleteRuby, I started reading about this case online a month or so after Ayla disappeared. I was feeling frustrated by the lack of media coverage. I was also the only person in my family that felt about 90% sure someone in the house harmed Ayla. Two things that stuck out to me from the very beginning of this investigation were the "daddy's princess" pajamas - that seemed contrived to me, I wondered if maybe she was "laid to rest" in them. The second thing was a very early quote from Becca Hanson, something to the effect of "DHHS has always had it out for my family." I thought that was an odd thing to say so early in the case. I came to believe that an accident happened and drugs were involved, thus the coverup.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I wondered what I was not seeing, if I could get any other insight. I read all the blogs, to consider all the information available. Recognizing, of course, it's not my job to figure it out. My 90% has decreased significantly since then. One of my friends, who doesn't read on line, said he doesn't believe anyone in the house knows anything. I asked why. He said people who drink or use substances, or try to stop, TALK. The other things I consider is the backgrounds of those involved on both sides, as well as Trista's whereabouts in the early morning hours on the 17th. I think these things, and more we don't know about, make this a complicated case for LE... it doesn't seem that if every bit of evidence pointed to a homicide in the house that we would be 4 months into it not knowing any more than we do.
Perhaps those people were brought in when they discovered the blood in the basement?
Also to comment on are the statistics about children that are victims of kidnapping, abuse, and homicide. And there is even profiling of when a person in distress calls 911 or the authorities. The 911 calls and the description of the behavior doesn't sound like one of an innocent person or one that is in distress over a missing child. And hanging up purposefully is a tactic used to stall. Both sides of the family have questionable backgrounds. Why would Trista risk taking her child? She legally went to the courts to try and get her child. If she was ever found to be in possession of Ayla she would lose her rights to the person she didn't want Ayla to be with. And to have to hide Ayla for their entire lives......THAT doesn't make any sense. Also why haven't other people like Derek Tudela taken polygraphs. He supposedly said that he saw Ayla for a playdate right before she was reported missing. If I was so BOLD to make those statements on FB and other blogs..... I would be SO BOLD to tell us all that, "I Derek Tudela have taken and passed a polygraph. I have made truthful statements concerning Ayla and her welfare. And I have passed a polygraph." I don't know Derek have you volunteered yourself to do that?
ReplyDeleteReally? These professionals are brought in when there is more than standard protocol. They have serious leanings that something happened that they were not being told. A few spots may have been visible but what about the amounts that were supposedly cleaned up? What about the Casey/Caylee case. That went on months before they found anything. And by the time they did they had little to go on because Casey didn't cooperate and they couldn't find a body for a loooong time. She denied everything. It's just frustrating to me because commen sense kicks in for me. Apparently not for others. Here is to hoping that MSP, other LE, and the DA's office gather enough evidence to solve what happened to Ayla. And can provide justice and comfort to her family and those that truly care.
Ruby, First let me say I appreciate having a civil conversation with you.
DeleteI would love to hear those direct statements also from everyone involved, even remotely, in Ayla's life. I'm not disputing common sense. It was 3 months ago when LE announced that some of Ayla's blood was found in the basement and that they were waiting on further tests to come back. If those came back as being all Ayla's and a large amount, what are they waiting for? Are they trying to figure out which one(s) in the house are guilty? If so, arrest them all... somebody will talk.
Ayla's is the only case I've followed on line. I haven't seen much about the others. A few of the things in Ayla's case that stick out for me and make me wonder: Patty Redeagle, DiPietros' neighbor, stated she heard a car in the very early morning hours. (Whose car was it?) She also said she would hear Justin singing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star to Ayla, and that she was never outside unsupervised. -- I have concern about some of the people that Trista knows. What might one of them do "for" her or "against" her? (Yes, I have the same concern about the people who know the DiPietros/Reynolds.) -- Honestly, my heart breaks for this whole situation. I can't fathom anyone that knows Ayla keeping a secret this long, certainly not entire groups of people. It makes me sick to think of what could have happened to her, and I can't imagine what her family is going through. I try to maintain hope, while keeping an open mind. I know that whatever I think or feel is irrelevant to the outcome of things, but I just try to stay positive and believe that precious Ayla is safe.
How does Ruby define those that truly care? I TRULY CARE... but my efforts have been to be supportive also of the paternal family who may not be lying. And to defend what is right, civil, and reflective of our legal standards as a country. So what that has resulted in is being told I don't care about Ayla. Amazing how these people shove their "rightness" at everyone and then accuse others of doing it.
Delete@Ruby32, Do you really think an addict just out of recovery and living in a welfare motel had a chance in hell of regaining Ayla in court? Really? Ok. Friggin people amaze me. She knew as well as sister Jessica that there was no way she would get more than visitation rights. Still think she had no reason to abduct? WOW. Stay in your fantasy!!!
ReplyDeleteThen why bother to even fill out the paperwork Dale? Seems like a lot of effort if she had no chance in hell. And what did Justin have to back his ass up? Living in a frat style bachelor pad with minimal employment and just as much questionable family and friends. I think any reasonable court NOT DHHS would look at both of them and see that attempts were made on her side for recovery and would hope that the judge would recommend follow up status reports on Trista. Courts encourage shared custody of a child. I know I've gone this route. And like Really?......Dale can you keep it civil. Be reasonable instead of attacking like a rabid chihuahua!!!! And actually DALE my boyfriend and I stayed on the Maine motel one night. All the other hotels were booked or overpriced. It was NOT a welfare motel. I wouldn't stay in a place like that. Get your stuff straight lady!!!!
ReplyDeleteperhaps she filled out the paper work and was informed of how difficult the case would be to get custody
DeleteDale I know people that have been involved in the ground searches. They are looking for deceased child and/or evidence.
ReplyDeleteof course they are. They have to cover ALL the bases
DeletePolice recover items from Kennebec River
ReplyDeleteUnknown if items have connection to Ayla Reynolds
By Ben McCanna bmccanna@centralmaine.com
Staff Writer
WATERVILLE -- State Police are analyzing items that were found Wednesday in the Kennebec River, but it is unknown whether they are related to missing toddler Ayla Reynolds.
"Some items were recovered from the Kennebec River yesterday," said Department of Public Safety Spokesman Steve McCausland. "The items have been taken to the state police crime laboratory for analysis."
McCausland wouldn't offer details about what the items are, but said they were found near the Hathaway Mill, within the dam sluiceway.
"At this point, we have no idea if it is in any way connected with the ongoing investigation; but our lab technicians will look at those items, as they have for all other items police have gathered since December."
He declined to answer additional questions.
Ayla was reported missing from her Violette Avenue home by her father on the morning of Dec. 17. Police believe foul play was involved, and they say the three adults who saw her last -- father Justin DiPietro; his girlfriend, Courtney Roberts; and sister Elisha DiPietro -- aren't forthcoming with information
As I ate dinner tonight in WATERVILLE I talked to one out of 2 people that knew Justin in school. Both said he was heavily involved with drugs. So please don't talk about Trista's chances in hell if your not willing to accept that he may not have any chances in hell either.
ReplyDeleteJustin was not heavily involved in drugs. Unless you count smoking some pot heavily involved which would then include 75% of the WATERVILE HS. But I think most people consider heavy drug use other drug activity. Which is exactly the kind of drug use Trista, her family and friends are involved in. I wish them luck in hell.
DeleteYour the one who is uncivilized and unreasonable. Everyone knows the Motel is covered by the state (ie.taxpapers) as a homeless shelter and she is waiting for a subsidized apartment. Oh so your saying Justin was into drugs and Trista wasnt? hehehe. Get a grip. In one of her textts she refereces one of the supposed drug affiliates. Why would she know Bob's name? And in response to your question, why would she file papers 1 day before the baby went missing. Hmmmm...looks like a good alibi to me. Oh and lets not forget she didnt even spell his last name right on the paperwork?!?! She could have copied it off her paternity test. lol. If any article of clothing(I heard rumor it may have been the pajama's) was found after they searched that particular area of the river 4 or 5 times then obviously they were planted byy the abductor!!!!!!!!! In Maine when u are released from a facility and a mom with welfare babies they put you in a paid hotel, which I might add is about 1/2 mile fro the S Portland Day One Methadone clinic!!! Get some facts straight. Ruby,Seriously!!!!
ReplyDeleteNo I'm saying that both were into drugs. She has admitted her problems. We all have problems. He doesn't talk about his problems. All the locals up here in Waterville that really don't care too much about the details of the case and don't care too much about Justin BUT know him have said he is into drugs. They have nothing to lose or gain by stating this. I know of people that went to school and have worked with the DIP clan and they said drugs were prevelant. And while the Maine Motel is not my first choice as a place to stay. I did stay there one time during a summer. When I stayed there there were other vacationing families and hardworking people that stayed there. Just passing through. When I went there was not druggie/welfare/unemployed people loitering the facilities. It reminded me of any other family owned motel you would see on coastal Route 1 in Maine.
DeleteYou just got your panties in a bunch cause I've discussed this with you before. About the incorrect name spelling. Who knows she might have some learning disability or was overly stressed about not talking to her child. Dale you don't know. And I admit that I don't know. I try to calming put stuff out there. While you aggressively put stuff out there and jump on people's backs. Settle down. And knowing what I know about searches ....things can be missed. Or waters rise and fall and objects can become more visable. They didn't just check that area. They checked more in the area of the Carter Memorial Bridge and where the Messalonskie dumped into the Kennebec. So what about the Methadone clinic? I know of other ones that are near major hotel chains. It doesn't prove anything. You're going on rumors. They are not FACTS. So get that straight. I mean even the stuff I'm saying is not fact. But it's a piece of of the puzzle. I'm talking about how people are known in the town they have grown up in and reside. My family is from that area and alot of my family owned or has owned businesses. They are well liked, postive, and actively contribute to the community. One of the people I talked to yesterday kind of shrugged his shoulders and said, "I went to school with the Dipeitro's. They are involved in drugs." And he went on to describe the area where evidence was found. It's a local hangout where people would sneak cigarettes and booze. He said only local kids would know about it and go in there. It's abandoned on one part of the buiding and nobody bothers anybody over there.
Ruby, I've been sick feeling since reading about this last night. We know that whatever happened, happened - regardless of how we feel about it - and the truth needs to come out, whatever it is. If someone took her life, I hope they can find the whole truth and those responsible held accountable. With the publicity surrounding this case and the information that has come forth I am concerned about the welfare of the other 3 children. As we pray for Ayla, we should also pray for Courtney's son, Gabby, and little Ray.
ReplyDeleteAyden *sighs*
DeleteI pray for Ayla and the other little babies as well. I don't know what happened either. But based on what I've seen in the media and read in the blogs, and being a local I see and hear things that others don't see. I know many individuals that are on different Search and Rescue teams that have gone out on the searches for Ayla. I have lots of extended family in the Waterville/Winslow area. Alot of people I know knew the paternal family and friends. And they are really not seen in a positive light to begin with. Regardless of baby Ayla. Some people attended school with them. Some worked with them. What I feel is my opinion based on what I know. But I'm not attacking anybody based on what they feel or know. Thanks "Really?" for having the civil discussions.
ReplyDeleteJSTL can you please lift the comment approval? Talking on here is real slow. If you really didn't want something you can always go back and erase the post. IDK just a thought. It seems like that is what the other bloggers are doing
ReplyDeleteRuby, With that I do agree to some extent, I don't however think Ayla is deceased. I do believe that someone did abduct her. I dont believe there was a cup of blood found aywhere and I do think that both parets havee drug connections and involvement with drugs. I did read that Justin moved back to Waterville in April prior to obtaining Ayla in October, so I am not sure which one of us is right about that. I do pray for Ayla and all of the babies in this situation, even the ones Trista's sister Jessica lost to the state. It seems to me if anyone had a grudge against Justin and DHHS it was really Jessica. JMO. Of course.
ReplyDeleteLE doesnt measure blood volume in cups for one thing they measure it in volume but would never say X amount of cups. My brother is a forensic tech in Washington and I asked him
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