For instance, I remain anonymous because I discuss things that are not well-received by a majority of the public. My views and opinions are quite contrary to what many people would believe about this case. I think outside of the box, and my opinions are strong. Giving my name or other details about me would allow people to attack the messenger and disregard my message.
VTLady79 aka VTLady
See, it all started with a little prescription for Adderall. The doctor thought VTLady (aka Rachel Lynn Sala bka Rachel Lynn Thomas) should get 60 20mg pills on February 1, but VTLady said "to hell with that" and changed the prescription so that she could get 60 30mg pills on February 4. Most of us have, at least once in our lives, taken the risk of forging or altering a prescription. Doctors don't always get it right, and we know what we need better than anyone else. ::sarcasm indicated::
VTLady79 had an advantage that most people don't; as a pharmacist, she was able to change her prescription and then have one of her comrades fill it. Her plan seemed to work, UNTIL the pharmacy manager called bullshit. She was brought up on charges in District Court, her license was suspended, and she entered substance abuse treatment as a condition of reinstating her license.
Her co-workers give her rave reviews, despite her forgery troubles, and later being fired for tardiness:
"I worked with this pharmacist when Rite Aid was Brooks; she is not fit to practice pharmacy in any setting. Look on the board of pharmacy's website, she severely altered her own prescription for a schedule 2 narcotic in several different. It's tricky, as I believe she was using her maiden name at the time." (sic)
"I know this pharmacist also. I worked with her too. She shouldn't be allowed to practice. She questions anone who is getting nacotic based presciptions and purposely makes them feel uncomfortable. I believe she now works at the Pharmacy accross from Rite Aid. I am sure they will also have problems with her. Customers will be complaining soon enough and they will see a drop in thier clients due to her on thier payroll. And she admitted she was tardy. That's why they fired her. I am sure they could have found more reasons than that. Like her attitude and dimeanor and not working well with others. Can't believe The Pharmacy hired her. Bad bad bad decision." (sic)As one of the most vocal spokespeople for Ayla, finding out this information is not the least bit surprising. We have asked over and over again---is there anyone on that side who is NOT a criminal? Someone commented the other day that Ayla has attracted some "undesirable types." That's the understatement of the century! In my humble opinion, the birthing canal she exited belonged to an undesirable type. Rachel Lynn, I will take the higher of the low roads and leave your family's information out of this. Now when you post your erroneous theories about drug trafficking, drug abuse, money laundering for drugs, etc---we know that you are projecting your own experiences and crimes unto Justin and family. Without any evidence whatsoever that Justin sells or uses drugs, you have been one of the people who have accused him the most. You, ma'am, are the drug addict. If you're interested, check out a few quotes from Vermont's Pharmacist of the Year. They were all posted on public pages, so...yeah. My 2 cents are written in red.
When you discover you have made an error, it is a HORRIBLE feeling, but I couldn't imagine what it would feel like if someone ELSE discovered your error. 1 in 2,500 is phenomenal, especially when your most serious mistake was something like putting the wrong # of
This is barely the tip of the hypocritical iceberg, but I'm not wasting any more time tonight :)
I refrained from posting her comments regarding her State Police husband, and many "WTF" moments. If you'd like to engage in an intense debate, you can do so here.
#2
P.S. KJ, you are also "Anon Y Mouse", can't you just post as KJ instead of misleading people?
UPDATE 1: KJ has shut her blog down.
"Intense Debate" - is that for holier than thou serial arguers? (That's not really a question.) I'm not surprised by any of this, but I guess it's nice to have some facts to back up ones general sense of people.
ReplyDeleteI don't think VTL was specifically drawn to Ayla, but is generally drawn to "these types of cases."
Well well, so miss I'm so righteous, isn't so righteous.
ReplyDeleteLike Really?, I'm not surprised either.
#2, Wink.
;-)
Delete'undesirable' was my word but jesus,I tink that is way too mild.
ReplyDeleteWOW !!!you know thier pointy fingers were aimed at the dipietros ,accusing them of being drug addicts/dealers and criminals.....with ZERO EVIDENCE except for lnce taking a puff now and again,when all this time it was THEM, verified by court records to be the VERMIN....interesting ! poor little sweet pea ayla. No respect even in absentia.
so , so far we have
1. tori-career theif,welfare sponge ,std carrier and cyber fleecer
2. vtlady-drug addict,fraudster and theif
3. Peter-Hippa violations etc.
4. mtmama-enabling child abuse by driving her neighbor into town to get her drug fix then the neighbor goes home and beats her kids
HEY- did vtlady look up the dips script history on her pharmacist database? oooooh more HIPPA violations if she did. She and Peter should give each other a nice little pat on the hiney...
5. Trista herself. Ordered into rehab or lose her kids for drug/alcohol abuse. And now rumor is she is off the wagon.
Delete6. Jessica recently arrested. Children taken by DHHS, and adopted out.
Family recently stated not speaking to her because of drug related issues.
7. Trista's ex finance an arsonist.
8. Ayla's God parents & Trista's best friends one in jail & one arrested for breaking the other out.
Feel free to add to the list many more of her friends and family have their own arrest records. Does not take much digging. Some like to use their mug shots on their FB pages.
adderall is an amphetamine, recreational users of amphetamine have coined numerous street names for amphetamine, such as "speed".
ReplyDeleteI'd classify this bit of juicy info as a bombshell. I am surprised. Way early on I stopped reading the pontifications of Vt.Lady. When posters annoy me that much, I just pass by their posts. I had her pegged for more of a goody two shoes type.
ReplyDeleteI honestly did chuckle out loud at Obscure's comment "We have asked over and over again---is there anyone on that side who is NOT a criminal?"
Guess her momma never taught her the lesson "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" also "Never underestimate someone's ability to find shit out". Never did understand how they have decided Justin is a druggy and dealer he has no record no history. The only one with admitted history is Trista and they do not hold that against her because she went to rehab and got help. Well guess what 10 days will not free you of any habit and how many months was she using in the presence of her children? She did not get help because she wanted to she was ordered to and anyone in their right mind knows you do not break a habit unless you want to change.
ReplyDeleteAnd sadly word is Trista is "using" again.
DeleteYou. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me. The cast of characters gets crazier by the day.
ReplyDeleteThe cast of characters has been crazy, it just gets revealed more and more each day.
DeleteI'm not surprised either! Is there anybody that knows, or is associated with Trista that has not been arrested for drugs, domestic abuse, theft, arson, etc. (the list goes on... and on)?
ReplyDelete"Usually, addicts obtain oxycodone scripts from doctors who........". WELL, usually, meth users/addicts obtain RX's for Adderal if: they are trying to quit using (that's an oxymoron!); or they have to take drug tests because they are on probation. They also lie to the doctor and make up a condition to get it.
Wonder what her story is?
signed:getrealpeople
I read in one of the links it was for attention deficit disorder and anxiety. I'm not sure who would prescribe adderall for someone who also has anxiety. I have been diagnosed with both of those things and I would never dream of taking that kind of stimulant. There's another drug for a.d.d. that is not a stimulant (can't remember the name right now). So, maybe she does or doesn't have those diagnoses. It could have started as a street drug, become an addiction, and caused anxiety. Possibly why she didn't want to take the 20s the dr. prescribed, she'd already been taking 30s.
Delete@Really?
DeleteI saw the ADD reference, but missed the anxiety part. I know the drug you’re talking about, but can’t remember the name either. Why are doctors prescribing Adderall, Ritalin, for adults? The drugs have a different response in children vs. adults. So many children were diagnosed with ADD in the 80’s (and maybe early 90”s) with ADD. Many of the parents were taking their children’s RX’s for the “high” they got (like speed).
You have a good point, why did she need 30mg, instead of the prescribed 20mg by her doctor.
Signed:getrealpeople
30mg has a higher street value than 20mg.
Deletemore questions - that's true, but my understanding is that a 30 can cost $5 - $10, so the difference couldn't be that much. My feeling is that only an addict would engage in such risky behavior with their job. Say the habit, supplied on the street, cost $600 a month - that's a lot of money - especially if you can get the same thing for just the price of a co-pay. Obviously when one goes to the dr. and convinces them they have ADD, the dr is going to give the person a lower dose - the patient can't say "but I'm already taking 30s." If a person has 20s and the street value is $7 - an approximate difference of $3 per pill. I don't think someone would risk their job for $180.
DeleteOh, I don't know, Really. Maybe she was trying to get the money together to buy a semi-truck so she could expand her drug trafficking operation.
Delete;-)
@more questons,
DeleteLOL, I love it. Dang that was one of my favorite theories of theirs.
more questions - bahaha - OMG yesss! that is a most excellent point!
DeleteGood one! LOL "Pharmacy on Wheels"
Deletesigned:getrealpeople
I doubt she was selling it. Most likely, she was taking it so she could stay awake all night commenting on blogs, putting in whatever 2 cents could buy..
Deleteoops, "Adderall" :)
ReplyDeletesigned:getrealpeople
Wonder if people will start taking their blinders off. So many criminals and lies coming out of the wood works over there.
ReplyDeleteNow I see why I didn't fit in over there besides the part where most of them lack a moral compass.
ReplyDeleteMe too! -veronica
DeleteVTLady says,"I'm a pharmacist, and I see questionable scripts cross my counter on a weekly (sometimes DAILY) basis...the problem is *completely* out of control!" And you should know, right? How many of those questionable scripts crossing the counter are yours? So, I guess if you do it, Justin must? Sounds like U4A's and Peeter's reasoning.
ReplyDeleteSo, because she is a pharmacist, she is educated and we should believe everything she says (even though she's probably a meth addict!). Just like mckeekitty changed her stance on Carol Bengle Gilbert, because she was told she is a lawyer! mckeekitty says, "I initially dismissed it as sloppy journalism, but another poster pointed out to me that Carol is very well educated, an attorney no less, and “on-her-game.” So I’m scratching my head."
What's with these people! Here's an idea, use your head for something more that a hat rack!!!!
signed:getrealpeople
lol...Im lovin it....
ReplyDeleteSelena, glad to see you here! I was worried about you. Keep your spirits up! I haven't posted much lately, but I've been reading and I haven't seen you lately.
DeleteHang in there sweetie! :) It's going somewhere!!!!!
signed:getrealpeople
Thanks Get real,
DeleteI have been reading but the stuff that is out there lately just makes me ...angry...sick...sad...so many feelings all at once.I just didnt think my adding anything would help.I appreciate your comment.Its nice to know that there are people out there who do care...and dont expect anything for it.
This does not surprise me at all. VTlady was super annoying and sounded like an 80 year old woman. I was shocked to learn she was so young.
ReplyDeleteI'm shocked to learn she was so high.
DeleteLOL
I'm shocked she married a state police officer in the middle of her disciplinary action. Hmm..I wonder which state? Vermont, NH, MA or...MAINE.
Delete:X
Hm. ....
DeleteNot to mention adderallbisnt made in 30mg pills lol
ReplyDeleteYes it is. Ir is made in 7.5, 10, 15, 20, and 30. Xr comes in 5, 10, 15, 20 and 30
Deleteand xr comes in 25, as well
DeleteHoly Batshit, Not VTLady! I thought she was a saint from heaven, sent by St. Peter himself. Since, I have fault and can't cast a stone... Moses, may I borrow your 'rod' to smack her up-side the head for being a hypocist? lol
ReplyDeleteSt. Peter Hyatt? Bahaha
ReplyDeleteHey now! Don't insult the man's "sainthood"!
Deletethis is sort of off topic of this particular thread, however VTL has been very vocal about Ayla's broken arm and how she suffered abuse, and stating that for a fact Ayla would have to have been in an incredible amount of pain yet they waited til the next day to take her in... and that she continued to be very uncomfortable in the days and weeks after. (I'm sure you remember Obscure, there was a whole blog post about it.)
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I was looking at the medical records posted online this morning.
The emergency room doctor reported at 10:50 the next morning when she was taken in for the swelling that Ayla was in no acute distress and was alert. S/he rated Ayla's discomfort level as "mild." S/he further indicated that Ayla was placed in a well-padded splint and that the "family" (presumably someone -Phoebe?- went with Justin) requested to have Ayla seen in Portland.
2 days later - Portland visit #1 - doctor noted Ayla was generally healthy appearing and that "She is actually quite comfortable."
1 week later - doctor noted she had "basically healed" the fracture
There were no indicators of suspected abuse in any of the 3 reports, and the first 2 specifically mentioned that Ayla appeared comfortable and alert. It appears the majority of Ayla's suffering from the arm injury was in the imaginations of people after the fact.
Good point! And if she was seen at 10:50 am, why are people saying he waited 24 hours? He waited more like 12-14 hours.
DeleteI saw it mentioned in a comment on UfA yesterday that there was contradictory information about the fall. CNN after Phoebe's interview reported Justin fell outside on the steps. The Morning Sentinel reported in quotes that it was inside on the steps. It seems to me that CNN misunderstood something like "he fell coming up the stairs into the house" and reported it as being outside. Also, all the talk about it not raining that day... seriously? If I'm wearing smooth-bottomed footwear in the winter, the bottoms can get wet from snow, melting ice, an unexpected 3 minute drizzle, whatever... and if I step on a hard dry surface in the house I can easily slip. I'm actually having a hard time navigating the hardwood stairs where I live - my safest method of transport is moccasins with dotted rubber soles. Anyway, my point, I can totally see the fall happening the way it was said to - and apparently so can the ER doctor, the traumatic injury bone specialist, and LE.
DeleteTrista didn't question the story when it happened in November; notice that's not one of the injuries she supposedly reported to DHHS.
DeleteThese are the same records that VTL indicated that Dr. Ricci (sexual assault specialist) had reviewed online to give Peter his opinion - though clearly in Peter's email to Tori he said Dr. Ricci reviewed the x-rays and that he felt it was done by picking her up by the arm. That makes no sense to me... how many little kids love getting swung by their hands between their parents when they walk? How many kids get a distal humerus fracture from doing so? Conversely, how many kids like to be fallen on top of coming up the stairs? I can see the injury happening that way. I missed the bottom step a few years ago and landed on my knee, and broke the lowest disc in my back. About 10 years ago I stepped on the side of a welcome mat, fell, and broke my foot. I get that broken bones can happen easily in a fall.
DeleteYou're right, she didn't bring it up then. It's only brought up since then because other people, like VTL and Peter, have insisted it had to be abuse.
It is comments like the one just posted by 'Really?' That bring the haters here i droves saying we SPIN things. For whatever reason they are totally incapable of processing information gathered from verifiable medical reports when it contradicts their theories. Blind. Hey, can someone forward those reports with highlighted comments to Nancy Grace? Maybe if she can digest it and regurgitate it to the masses we can post a link for them for "proof". After all, we're dealing with folks for whom proof and evidence doesn't exist until a shrieking hag of a tv PERSONALITY who does *everything* for ratings says it in her shrill voice.
DeleteWhy are you typing in all caps? Talk about acting like a 2 year old?!
ReplyDeleteI can respect your opinion about this, but when you type in all caps I want to just hit delete. Please avoid doing this in the future, and if something about this blog is unsuitable for you--I encourage you to perform a search on Google for "Ayla Reynolds" and then navigate to another site.
Thanks!
I agree concerned! Such rubbish. . . and also very childish! I'm thinking Obscure is probably a teenager.
ReplyDeleteI need you all to come to a consensus about me.
ReplyDeleteAm I
1. A teenager
2. A defense team member
3. Courtney
4. Your mom
@ANONYMOUS,
ReplyDeleteIsn't your comment a rerun? Didn't I see that posted already? Isn't it here on this blogsite? Maybe not a 2-year-old, but a 1-year-old that learned to cut and paste. No, wait a minute, the sign-off is new - , [no space] Concerned citizen..........
The sign-off may have been copied, too, but I don't remember that.
I don't care for name-calling and mud-slinging, either. However, you are wrong about the purpose for these blogs, especially and specifically when a child is missing under suspicious circumstances - especially when there are entirely too many suspicious characters that have made a lifetime career of feeding off the frenzy created by a missing child. I thank Obscure for exposing as many of these individuals as posible. This is what a blog is good for, and Obscure shows us what a good administrator can do.
posted by pogamen 8/1/2012
Who really cares who you are?
ReplyDeleteMaybe you should go over to UNITED FOR AYLA and see what is new. . . that blog is a great example of how we all can help bring "AYLA REYNOLDS" home.
ReplyDeleteThat blog is a great example of how to prevent a live child from being looked for because they all have given her for dead.
DeleteThis blog is Ayla's hope. This blog may be what brings a LIVE Ayla home.
Uhhh, why the quotes? Ayla is not an imaginary being. She is a little girl, and I stress the *IS*. You all think she's dead. How about you let us who think she is alive have hope, and expose the lies & ignorance that the likes of you constantly spread on your blog that is "all about Ayla" (note the proper usage of quotes..because it's in your imagination & has no basis in fact). If you're willing to stick around & talk reasonably, please feel free, but somehow I doubt many of you are capable. Since we aren't welcome on your turf, why are you invading ours with your hate & judgment? We're willing to & do welcome opposing thoughts when done respectfully. Unlike you, we're not threatened by those who may not agree with us. Just don't be a dink about it & we can talk.
Delete@ Anon18:43
DeleteITA
Oh really? See what's NEW over there? No thanks. If they ever do anything but attack those that are really looking for a live Ayla, attack her paternal family, pat themselves on the backs for being hateful and vile people who justify their horrible behavior, and call a missing child dead (as they have since weeks 1-3) and screech for justice... that would be new. But I'll pass thanks. If they ever change their ways it will be too little too late. They disgust me and have collectively conspired to kill innocent peoples livelihoods and reputations. They will never see my IP address pop up in their scum infested logs.
DeleteWhen i came across this site i thought it was a place to discuss a missing lil girl and try to help with the efforts to try to find her and to keep her name out there! I guess i was sadly mistaken. I quickly found out that all this is is a blogsite for grown adults to act like children and sling mud back and forth. How truly disgusting if i do say so myself. I have never seen anything quite like this in my life, I cant believe there are people on this earth who would use a missing lil girl as a reason to get off on hurting others by digging up dirt and to play internet baby games back and forth (name calling, passing judgement on others and publishing personal information, bashing thier family members and worst of all publishing pictures and threatning other bloggers children! and the list of baby games goes on and on! I would be here all day if i stated them all!) I can't believe you people exist on this planet! How discusting! In all my years in law enforcement i have never seen such filth! Even out of some of the lowest criminals! Don't worry i will find a more positive website to promote finding AYLA REYNOLDS instead of wasting all of my energy on childish behavior! By the way obscure or what ever you are, I did not type in all caps this time, I didnt want to offend a 2 year baby! Lmao!!!!!
ReplyDeleteHi John P, you spelled disgusting wrong.
DeleteJohn is crazy loco. He thinks U4A has thousands of supporters when less than 20 people comment there lol
DeleteBy "years in law enforcement", you mean years in jail, on probation, and dodging warrants? Because if you're calling THIS blog disgusting, the koolaid is strong.
DeleteAnon. 12:03 & 13:32,
DeleteYou don't come across as a very honest person.
You are not are very well educated officer of the law Anonymous. Interesting.
DeleteLol That should have read: You are not a very well educated officer of the law. Let's see if it works this time.
Delete@Anon 13:32
DeleteYou just came across this site, really? You just wanted to find a place to discuss and help with the efforts to try to find Ayla. Where have you been? You do know Ayla disappeared over 7 months ago, don't you? Wasn't really a question to you, don't answer, please! Go back to U4A.
So, all your years in LE, were they "in jail, on probation, dodging warrants", as #2 brought up? Did you mean to say, "all my years involved with LE"? If you don't know about the U4A blog (chuckle), it is united4ayla.com. Go there, you will fit right in!
All your years in LE, you must have experience, so tell me, which "theory" do you believe?
1. Justin shot Ayla in the stomach out of rage.
2. Justin abducted Ayla so he could buy a life ins. policy on her, and then kill her to collect the money ($25,000 we've been told). Then he could live his life as a rich man, never having to work another day of his life. What a plan, but something went horribly wrong, he killed Ayla during a drug/alcohol induced rage and now must figure out how to collect the ins. money.
3. Ayla was killed by accident, but they couldn't call 911 because they were on drugs, and had drugs scattered throughout the house.
4. Courtney was so jealous of Trista calling Justin, she killed Ayla to get Trista out of his life.
5. Elisha was so jealous of Ayla taking away attention from her daughter, she killed Ayla.
6. (This one's a show stopper.) Ayden killed Ayla and they had to cover for him so he wouldn't go to prison.
So, you're LE really? What, you were a security guard at Wal-Mart? Is that when you met Tori? (LOL)
If this comment doesn't show you what this blog is about, well sorry, you're just plain stupid.
If you comment again, hopefully it will be deleted, if for no other reason than you are an annoying nitwit!
signed:getrealpeople
Make sure you highlight your text, copy it, then head over to United4Ayla, and hit paste into a comment there. Your comment describes that blog perfectly!
Deleteo.O
DeleteGet real : nicely done. ;)
DeleteI vote for no4, my mom
ReplyDeleteYour mom. LOL!
ReplyDeleteIf you cared about Ayla, would know the reasoning behind this particular post. This woman has only referred to Ayla as a murdered child(since at least February). She has said Justin's family tortured Ayla, purposely broke her bones, called them drug traffickers, drug addicts, has said Justin's family murdered Ayla for drug money. IMO you have no right making drug accusations when you used your license to alter your own CII prescription. THAT is a crime, so I 'give a crap' what she does, when she uses lies to manipulate.
ReplyDeleteNothing has ever been off-limits to her. She has based everything ever said on rumors she repeatedly passes as facts. If you plan to present yourself as a pharmacist, and use that to make your points sound valid, that is perfectly fine. It is when you make yourself look like a well respected and educated professional, when you are quite the opposite, there are (unfortuately) people who assume your points and theories are valid. She has been the driving force pushing for punishment of the murderer(s). If in fact that was Ayla fate, I agree. However, many of us do not believe Ayla is deceased. To say this blog isn't helping Ayla is bogus, however you are entitled to your opinion. The maternal side has pointed fingers at Justin since day 1 with NO logical reasoning. So far, the very people calling the DiPietro criminals have been the only ones with shady ad criminals lives. MSP has taken Trista's word an fake tears as gold. Once they finally realize they have been duped, maybe Ayla will be found. Until then, searches will resume underwater and underground. It is much easier to conceal a healthy toddler, when no one is looking for a girl playing at the park. So..why don't YOU get off your butt and do something positive, rather than reading and commenting on blogs written by idiots.
BTW..I got a chuckle out of you claiming we get off name calling right before you called us idiots. lol
Anonymous 13.32. Do you fail to see the hypocrisy of the people blogging at U4A? The most vocal are being shown to be degenrates.
ReplyDeleteSo you say. . . as if anything on this blog can be believed. All I know is the UFA blog is making an effort to keep Ayla's name out there. . . what is this blog doing other than bullying?????? And your Pogamen sounds like a child molester! As well as a bit crazy to say the least. . . but oh Selena is so interested in hearing more of his/her story. . . .give me a break. This blog is nothing but a bunch of crap!
DeleteAlso Anon . . .not really sure what degenrates means could you explain.
Delete15:10...really, you are that stupid? So I left out an e. And at least Pogamen is not an admitted molester invited by this blog admin to post. Go back to u4a and chat with Vear.
DeleteAnon. 15:09,
Delete. "as if anything on this blog can be believed"
Can you point out a blog post that isn't accurate?
One other thing I'd like to point out, ..at least *you* can express your opinion here.
anon 15:09 - I'm not going to look up the exact figure, it's possibly 1/3 of all tips received by MSP have been from psychics, or "people who know things in an untoward way." LE deems their assistance helpful. Pogamen sent her tip in to LE. Do you think LE calls those tipsters "crazy child molesters?" Just because you don't understand how a person expresses themselves does not make them a child molester. Yes, a number of us are interested in what Pogamen has to say. Just as a number of people on J4A were interested in what "grandpa Sasquatch" had to say. You can probably understand Vear's comments ok?
Delete@Really? Your figure is correct.
DeleteSelena- lol. You know I'm now going to picture you chatting with little ceramic gnomes right? I applaud you for sticking it out all these months. The situation your family is in is unfathomable.
DeleteANON: bullying? Sorry but you need a refresher course. Unfortunately since Tori and Jeff ripped down their original hate filled ATTACK BLOGS which attacked Justins family as well as everyone involved in the (still continuously working for awareness, 6 mths and counting) "this little light of Maine". What was that groups fault? That they didn't automatically believe ANY of the Dipietros had murdered their innocent 2 yr old, that she was likely missing and needed Americans paying attention and LOOKING for her, that Ayla was better served by their refraining from rushing to judgement. In order to gather that support group, the person who started it went out on a limb and took personal attacks for being compassionate and explaining how she could believe there may have been no death. YOUR SIDE- dear anon- did the bullying and the attacking. Obscure came out swinging at your side's ignorance after he /she saw what was being done to anyone who agreed with you. Tori and Jeff and Peter along with their little ni ninnyheaded counterparts should be ashamed of what they've done. Amazingly they are proud of it. (Ha.) Can't argue with crazy right? That's called an alternate reality FYI. And thank you Obscure and #2 for working hard to unravel the troop of criminals who are behind it all.
lol Veronica thats ok with me. I picture you as one of Archies girls. ;P
Deletetotally agree Ananymous!!!!! This site is what true bullying is all about! Unbelievable. . .
ReplyDeleteoh really? it is the coffee clutch crew of cackling hens, and john pee the crybaby at u4a that gang up on people, jump into convo's and stomp around other blogs telling people what to do and say.starting fights and then calling for backup like some hairless rat cowards.john pee and mountain mama are the worst. chicky deedle dum and ldybug up her ass arent far behind. jeffie is just a dirty old man who uses a 20 yr old pic of himself in a muscle shirt lol lol lol,in his avatar to try and snag some cyber ass. looks like he's got one notch on his belt...tori, his sticky-fingered blog wifey....so just how did he 'lose his pants' in the merger? guess tori ordered him to drop trou....
DeleteThank you Anthony and Veronica. Those people will only ever see things throuh their warped tunnel.
Delete*through*
DeleteToo much drama in the other blog, the one that suffered the trauma of betrayal and "divorce", mud slinging, side-changing, reorganization, and the list goes on. How is any of that "all about Ayla"? Although I have been offended here, more than once, by the blog owner her/his self, I have to give credit where credit is due. This blog has hung in there. I never thought the author here was anything less than intelligent, only ballistic at times, maybe high strung. You have exposed bloggers for who they really are-not just a comment and a name. No more pretending to be sainted-they are who they are! Nothing is being solved or done on certain sites by certain people. maybe nothing else can be done at this point. So maybe the pretending game can stop. And I hope to continue to read here about facts pertaining to whatever case there is. Congratulations JSTL. You win!
ReplyDeleteVery well stated #2. I don't understand how they just cannot see the hypocrisy of these people.
ReplyDeleteAnon 12:03 Double Wow, have YOU looked in the mirror lately? I have an ominious feeling about you!
ReplyDeleteI always knew VtLady was a tramp. She said she gave birth to all her kids as a young teenager, and was actually proud of it. So, she has been selfish and irresponsible and willing to hurt others for a long while.
ReplyDeleteVt Lady, Tori, Grace, Jessica, Trista, they are all remarkably similar people.
ReplyDelete@anon 13:32 "When i came across this site i thought it was a place to discuss a missing lil girl and try to help with the efforts to try to find her and to keep her name out there! "
ReplyDeleteUm, I don't know. I'll have to go and re-read the purpose of the blog. I think it was about 'stopping the lies' and not specifically to help find a missing child.
I apologize if I'm missing something, but I don't see how anyone on any of the blogs can help find a missing child. What we can do is discover who is lying, why they are lying, and if their lying plays any role in Alya's disappearance or can provide a clue to finding her.
Exactly bystander. I have tried to point that out too. Seems those people lack basic comprehension. Obscure stated at the outset on day one what this blog would be about. It is what has remained true without cause for revision. And still those detractors can't grasp it. They need only flip through the tabs at the top for an overview.
Deleteso this blog basically has nothing to do with Ayla is what you are saying. . . .that is what I have been saying all along. This blog is just about bickering back and forth and acting like little school kids. My thoughts exactly bystander.
DeleteIm sure a bloggers lie must have something to do with Ayla's disappearance while she was in her father's care. . . now that makes sense!
Let's define kidnapping:
DeleteA child taken without consent from a parent's care. Yes Ayla was "in her fathers care" and then she was taken out of it. Clearly by someone. Because that much is clear Ayla is no longer there. She is no longer in that house. That much has been established. She is missing. So if she was taken from her mother's care would it not then have been called a kidnapping?? Just wondering?
Agree with anon 15:09 about Pogamen. Weird.
ReplyDelete@Bystander
DeleteWeird! WTH. How do you, and Anon 15:09, come to the conclusion pogamen is a child molester? You two are vile creatures!
signed:getrealpeople
I don't know that they are coming to a conclusion so much as pointing out that in the average person's frame of reference, what this commenter called pogamen says gives pause and you have to wonder who exactly is behind it all. Their thought that it could be actually a child molester isn't off base. I mean, it could be after all. Everyone accepted B. VEAR as just some helpful doddering old man until it was discovered he's a dangerous drug using confirmed child molester. You just never know is all. I don't think either of them are vile for their statement but I don't exactly agree with them either.
DeleteHow do you come off saying that this Pogamen is a sane person???? There is obviously something very wrong with this person its obvious. Who talks like that. . . he/she sounds to me like a child molester! A bit weird about talking to Ayla in the after life or whatever. . . to tell you the truth I can't make any sense out of anything pog has written.
DeleteOkay, this chain of comments has nothing to do with Ayla, or this blog, but I'm fed up with the nasty BS being spewed.
Delete@YB - Sorry, but I don't understand your first sentence: "average person's frame of reference"?; "gives pause and you have to wonder who exactly is behind it all"? What are you talking about??? To follow your line of reasoning, your comment gives more pause and could cause wondering. I mean, it could be after all. Nothing pogamen has written can be construed, in any way, manner, fashion, form, that she is a child molester.
Anon 12:34 - So, I get the feeling you don't think pogamen is a sane person. That explains it all! You can't make any sense out of her comments, what else could it be, she must be a child molester. Do you know what logic means? (Didn't think so.)
Stop it, will you! This is how the nasty rumors get started.
signed:getrealpeople
Double WOW, Whoa, and YIPPIIIEEE!!! The reason wise pogamon son that you may or may not have seen it twice, is because sometimes this blogger does not publish all comments. So in an attempt to make ones words appear right in front of your eyes on a thread, perhaps the messenger did not see the initial post, so therfor, re-posted. Sample, I have also tried to post stupid one liner replies to combat the stupid one liner replies that are inevitably posted whenever someone posts something "anti-justin". Yet Texas Toast, Mountain Dew, Grilled Cheese, #2, #105, John the poopyhead, Juicyfruit, the poop that took a pee...all get blog-time...I mean seriously??? Talk about SPIN!! LOL your lead blogger full of "inside information" believes Ayla is still alive....Well Abstruse, Tell us, WHERE ARE YOUR PLEAS AND THOUGHTs OF WHERE AYLA IS AND WHO TOOK HER??? Or do you simply have this blog for self attention...DO SOMETHIN!! pft
ReplyDeletelittle* not lil of you want to insult people atleast use proper grammar or else on the end you are the only one who looks like an "idiot" ;)
ReplyDeleteI agree with pogamen and #2. These people need to be exposed, it has everything to do with Ayla.
ReplyDeletesigned:getrealpeople
i brought up this case with my boyfriend, discussed every detail and fact, and do you want to know what he said? "i think the mother has the kid hidden somewhere."
ReplyDeleteAnon. 20:44,
DeleteSounds like your boyfriend thinks pretty logically..because it is a very logical conclusion.
@Anonymous 20:44
DeleteMy husband AND my mother said the same thing
That's what most people we talk to offline say. It's why we all keep coming back to "how can MSP not see this probability?!"
DeleteToo bad the evidence all points to someone in that hell house. . . . why doesn't one of them speak up for Ayla? I just can't comprehend, whether it was accidental or not, why no one will speak up.
Delete@ Anonymous
DeleteAll what evidence?
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DeleteI'm asking likewise, ..All what evidence?
The only evidence pertaining to Ayla's disappearance, that the public has been made aware of is, that some of Ayla's blood was found at the DiPietro home.
How can anyone reach a conclusion about her disappearance based on that?
With everything we have heard, "it is a very logical conclusion", as S stated. Trista, and others in her family, are so adamant to make the public believe that Justin killed Ayla. Why? Why would she give up hope for Ayla coming home, days after she disappeared? She contradicts herself every time she speaks. john Q, I agree, how can MSP not see this probability?!"
Deletesigned:getrealpeople
Completely off topic, but I don't want to give my email address to the crazy people over there.
ReplyDeleteI would like to address JohnP, MM, chicky and all the other nuts at U4A. To answer some questions for you because you seem to live in some bizarre world where if you didn't see it on U4A it didn't happen. Justin doesn't address the media often because the questions they want to ask him are not about Ayla. They are about Trista. Justin doesn't talk about Trista to the media because he IS a better human being than she. He DOES have respect for his daughter and wants to do right by her and therefore, does not publicly tear down her mother. Justin and his family have been working with TLLOM around the clock to spread Ayla's face across the country and into other countries. You can all believe me when I say that with the current work being done, thousands of people every day will see Ayla's face and know her story. NO ONE wants Ayla found and the guilty party punished more than Justin. There is not one day that the Dipietro family can go about their business and daily lives like you think they do. They are wracked with sadness and fear that they will never see Ayla again. The ridiculous words that you all spew are unfounded garbage born from uninformed internet attention whores. Justin doesn't owe any of you any of his time. His time is spent on finding AYLA. The best ways that he sees fit. Information about what is being done by Ayla's team is not shared publicly because of YOU PEOPLE. People who continually demand to know what he's doing to find his daughter so that you can sabotage it or cut it down. He doesn't have the time to play your games or amuse you. Lastly, the media here in Maine local to Justin and his family don't hound them for one reason, there's no proof that he has done anything wrong. They have seen his face and heard his words as he talks about his daughter and they know he's in pain. Trista is good for ratings. She's all about the drama and the lights. She will bash Justin and lie to get a story for her own gain as opposed to showing respect for her daughter and doing actual work to find her. These are just a few of the answers to the many redundant and just plain moronic questions that you all ask. I close this message with a statement for the blogger who gave kudos to Angela for closing TLLOM. TLLOM is not gone. The cause page is up and running with more likes and positive supportive comments than any other page out there for Ayla. TLLOM isn't going anywhere. Ayla's REAL Team is more than 20 strong working every day on projects that help to spread her face all over America and across our country's borders. I give kudos to Angela for closing the closed group page to focus on the real effort being taken to bring Ayla home. We didn't need that page. The cause page keeps her out there and planning through email, skype, phone calls and face to face meetings is much more efficient for projects of the magnitude that TLLOM is undertaking with the DiPietros. Do us a favor though, print a flyer and mail it somewhere. Anywhere is good. Imagine if each one you printed just 5 flyers a week and mailed them somewhere to be posted. That's what? 100 flyers a week maybe? Now that would be helping to keep Ayla's story out there.
Yes! Thank you for posting this. Perfectly said. Now if only it wasn't falling on deaf ears :/
DeleteLetter for U4A says: Justin doesn't address the media often because the questions they want to ask him are not about Ayla. They are about Trista.
DeleteSo you're saying that no one, not one single person in the media, no one has asked about him about Ayla, only Trista? Well there you go, maybe someone from the media can get off their butts and finally ask Justin about Ayla.....
Anon. 12:39
DeleteI'll take that piece of swamp land, depending on the price. Swamp land can & does have it's advantages.
As I watched Justin on the Today show my perception of him was, he was very nervous, sincere, and his love for Ayla evident.
@Anonymous
DeleteThe difference between Justin and Trista is that he does not care what YOU think of him. He only cares about his daughter. If he really cared what people thought he would be doing exactly what Trista is doing and going on television and defending himself and doing exactly what the media wants him to do which is only to answer questions about himself and Trista. How is it easier to protect himself by saying nothing and not fighting back? No you are so wrong. Justin shows everyday just how much he cares about his daughter by taking the high road and not bashing her mother, not caring to waste all his time fighting with the public about his reputation and instead focus on spending time behind the scenes spreading awareness across the country for his daughter. And working with people to find her. And whether you believe that or not just does not matter to him.
But clearly someone dumb enough to buy swamp land in Florida would not understand that :) Enjoy your swamp. I'm not buying! Thanks
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ReplyDeleteYou go M-I-M. Well stated. This blog is all about bullying and exposing people's faults. I just have to ask how that helps Ayla in any way shape for form?????
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DeleteKJ, I witnessed your transformation, and I was encouraged by that. There were times, though, that you would almost slip back into those old habits. I haven't seen any posts from you anywhere for a long time, but I really hope that you've truly decided what you think is right, and that you're taking a stand for it. I'm sorry you've felt threatened, and you're right... we all have skeletons, and real lives & families we wish to protect. I wouldn't want my life paraded for all to see--good or bad. It's a vulnerable place to be. I, for one, would welcome you here to discuss things, and I'm sorry you don't feel safe to do so.
DeleteLet me pack my bags, KJ's taking me on a guilt trip! Not.
DeleteKJ---why are you messaging me now as Scorpio Gal? How many identities do you have, and why?
I corresponded with you early on in this case, and I never published any of your information. You can remain anonymous, but you came out as KJ and tied Missing in Maine to this. Since you have to be somewhat decent due to M-I-M, you've created alternate personalities to say the stuff you really wwant to say. Not cool. That's kind of what Cynthia of LostnMissing does. It's 2 faced and hypocritical.
It's all good.
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DeleteKJ,
DeleteI have a right to be anonymous? So did you not participate in trying to figure out who I am? Scratch that. My mom always told me that I should never give someone an opportunity to lie. You obviously would lie, so let me just share this with you:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: KJ
Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: C----'s online activity on blog right now
To: Justice For Ayla
Cc: Jyl Hartin , Jeff , John Pomerleau , Start the Lies , Grace Wilson
BTW, JSTL is trying to say that the IP is not her, because it does not point to her address. She has Road Runner, I have Road Runner. My IP does not point to my exact home location either, because I use a ROUTER with my Road Runner Modem. If I used the Road Runner Modem alone, my IP would point to my HOME address. The router is a firewall, which means my road runner IP points to the closest Road Runner SERVER location (which is about 30 miles from my home, in a different town). Apparently, C---a is not very bright when it comes to these things. Or she thinks we aren't very bright.
The more she protests, the more I know it's her! Strange how she deleted the post where she mentions C---a on her blog.
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NOW TELL ME I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE ANONYMOUS TOO? YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TRACKING YOU, BUT YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING IT TO OTHERS? SHUT THE FRONT DOOR, MORE HYPOCRISY. WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED?
That was in April of this year. It's now August. My thoughts and opinions on a lot of things have changed since that time. I told I wasn't proud or happy about everything I did or said. That was just one of them.
DeleteAm I now going to be the new issue? Yes, I did communicate with others about outing who you were. At the time, I got caught up in the drama and emotions of the moment. I've had time to reflect and realize that was wrong. Some people figure those things out and others don't. I only speak for myself.
KJ
As I said above, I've learned a lot since April and I now realize that getting caught up in the emotions and the moment was wrong. Yes, I communicated with Tori and others about the "outings".
DeleteAt least I admit it was a mistake and have not and will not participate in that type of behavior.
I said, I'm human. And yes, you absolutely have the right to be anonymous, as does everyone else. KJ
I see you are selective in who's names you will post. I'm out of here. Thank you for allowing some of my posts to show. KJ
DeleteKJ, I have deleted those comments---and every comment you have submitted has been published. Don't be so dramatic.
DeleteAnon above---Even though it is widely known, please don't put KJ's whole name out there. She is okay with doing it to others, but she doesn't want it done to her. I will respect her hypocrisy, and delete all comments containing her full name.
DeleteSorry, and thanks for understanding!
I deleted my comment that had the name in it. It was the name of the person naming me. It's gone. KJ
DeleteAnonymous (17:07)-- really? I'm a commenter whose comments are regularly posted and I am definitely on the opposite side of you. And yet often I come back and find my comments were never posted. The comments aren't accusatory, foul mouthed, hateful or anything and yet sometimes they don't get posted. I never know why, but I let it be. I know there are so many comments to weed through. Now contrarily I used to try to post on Tori's blog and my posts were almost never approved. That is, unless my irritation got the better of me and I made a post that failed to pose an important question or point out their (your) flawed logic. Those comments were sometimes approved because they could tear into it and Tori didn't look like she had any reasonable detractors. Come to think of it, that's what happened over at Peters blog back in January (the last time I visited it) as well.. Oh well birds of a feather.
ReplyDeleteIn closing, anon, rest assured YOUR side has been heard and is being heard. It is THIS side that was being shut down and this side that was being elbowed out. Until anonymous blogger extraordinaire came along and started speaking out. You'll note that while you complain that your posts are not posted here ; you all also complain that this blogger does nothing more than refute (my word) what's said on the other one. If the obvious isn't obvious to you, let me point it out: YOUR opinions are being seen and heard loud and clear so you can rest easy knowing that even if all of your (I'm sure ;) brilliant posts don't make it into the limelight we get ya.
I sincerely applaud you, and your comment. !!!!!
ReplyDeleteThis was in response to "Letter to U4A".
DeleteIn response to the letter to U4A....
DeleteIf anyone wants to be of any help send postage stamps.
NO MONEY PLEASE!
You all know the address.
Thank you Selena.
DeleteI don't know why I never thought of that.
I am going to get in touch with TLLOM, I would love to send stamps.
Thank you, S.
DeleteAll of you belong in a nut house!!!!!! Lmao
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ReplyDeleteI appreciate your comment KJ. For what it's worth, I have no idea who you are other than KJ M-I-M and I've been following Ayla's case in several forums since the beginning. I also didn't see a comment in this thread about you.
ReplyDeleteWe here are not all one person nor do we all share the same opinions. What we don't do is dream up horrific murder stories and take all allegations and assumptions as fact. The things that have been said about the DiPietros and many people they know, and still others that have only commented, are despicable. I'm sure you've seen the things the Tudelas have been accused of because they stood up for their friend. Some of these people, like VTL, are actively trying to ruin the lives and livelihoods of people that don't agree with their slanderous opinions. Shortly after JSTL started this blog, they (led by Jeff and Tori) were actively trying to expose and harass this blogger for having a different opinion. They even set up another blog with the sole purpose of bashing this blog owner. Several people were "accused of" being JSTL, and there were suggestions for calling his/her workplace and family members, etc. VTL was not innocent in any of that. She's very vocal and strong in tone, and attempts to convince people of the correctness of her perspective via SA and the fact that she's a pharmacist. It seems the people who speak out against the DiPietros the most are projecting their own life and experiences into the situation. So, yes, in some cases it does matter who is saying what.
I was glad to see that you read here. I can't speak for anyone but myself. I, for one, would appreciate your participation.
Space---KJ participated in trying to out me right along with the others. Please see the above forwarded message.
DeleteThanks.
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ReplyDeleteEven though it is widely known, please don't put KJ's whole name out there. She is okay with doing it to others, but she doesn't want it done to her. I will respect her hypocrisy, and delete all comments containing her full name.
DeleteSorry, and thanks for understanding!
So no one can post KJ's full name on here, but SHE can post other people's names on here?
DeleteWhose name did she post? Direct me to the comment, it will also be deleted.
DeleteThanks
Right up above in the section where you removed a bunch of posts.
DeleteI guess it was a mistake to come here and try to say anything. I'll move along. I really do not see the need to post my name, when no one else posts their name. Apparently I was right about intimidation tactics and bullying.
ReplyDeleteThank you to those who kindly responded. I've made errors, I've admitted it, I've apologized for it. that's all anyone can do. I'll move on and you can continue your "discussions". KJ
I already told you your name was deleted. I don't know if you are posting rapid fire style, or if you are choosing to overlook what I said.
DeleteBut if you all had succeeded in outing me, the damage would have already been done. A simple apology would not have done or changed anything for me.
You seem like a reasonable person, despite the hypocrisy and 2 facedness (made up word)...Take care.
I know that and I'm glad you weren't outed. And "dramatic" is who I am. Always been that way. :(
DeleteI hope I'm a reasonable person, it's one of the reasons I kept reading here. Because, as I said, there are a lot of good opinions and thoughts that have been posted. Some made me change my mind about things.
Thank you for removing my full name. I appreciate it and totally understand that my behavior in the past warrants your comments about hypocrisy and 2 facedness. I get it. Now. KJ
Maybe I'm just too forgiving for my own good, but I believe people can change. Did you take part in the attempt to out JSTL as a certain person? Yup. You seem to feel bad about it now, but have you ever apologized to Obscure OR the person you basically have made life very difficult for? For me that's a good indication of your sincerity. So, do you still put down the "Dips"? Just curious. I really want to believe you're sincere.
DeleteObscure and KJ - From my perspective as an outsider in those goings on, I appreciate the dialog between you.
DeleteI understand when Obscure says "A simple apology would not have done or changed anything for me." I agree with Obscure that KJ seems like a reasonable person. I had thought that in the beginning, and then my thoughts changed for awhile. You know how that goes.
She may have apologized to me, I'm not sure. As for her apology to the other person, I'm going to guess that she hasn't. Pride and all of that gets in the way.
Delete@Michelle, these were KJ's thoughts about Selena...
DeleteWhoa... there Selena, calm down. Why the heck anyone would be asking "you" about anything, well that's just insane. You weren't there and anything you know is hearsay. Oh I'm sure you believe what your disconnected family members tell you. After all, you want to stay in their good graces, but that surely does not make it the absolute truth.
From my observation, you have been the outsider family member trying to get "in" since Ayla's disappearance. And we all know the reason you like Obscure's blog so much is that you feel like a big wig there. When in actuality you don't know diddley about anything.
If you are frustrated, it's more likely a frustration that comes from your family who haven't clued you in to the truth. And as far as "stickin your friggin nose in" anywhere, well it sure seems that your nose is stuck where it doesn't belong, as much as anyones.
Phoney people? Wow, bet that hurt someone. NOT. LOL The biggest phoney at Obscure's blog is YOU, Selena. With your holier than thou attitude and your wrong assumptions, seems like you think you own Obscure's blog, telling people to leave the blog.
What gives YOU the right to say shit, Selena? I'll tell you, nothing. You are no better than anyone else and they (those people that you don't like or don't agree with) have as much right as you to say what they think and believe. If you don't like the friggin' blogs, why are you coming back for more? What a hypocrit. If you are the real person behind the Obscure blog, than feel free to tell people to come and go, but if you are not, than you are only GUEST at the blog (just like everyone else). No one cares what you think Selena, except YOU.
You portray yourself as one loud-mouthed, foul-mouthed nasty bitch, which seems to run in the family and that's all you are to the many innocent people you slam. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by Anon Y Mouse at 7/22/2012 11:22:00 AM
And KJ just said she's a decent person, where has she used foul language? See my previous comment.
DeleteKJ's "beautiful picture"
Deletehttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jlxzt9mhYaEJ:bloggercrazies.blogspot.com/2012/07/justin-where-is-ayla.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
While I certainly believe that Dipietro's had every right to remove the shrine to Ayla, to do so without even mentioning it to all those lovely souls who place items there was HEARTLESS! Not one word out of their mouths. All those loving people who have been praying and looking for Ayla all these months and the Dipietro's couldn't even find it in their hearts to let people know they would remove those items. How sick is that?
DeleteThe Dipietro family just made the shrine disappear in the middle of the night without a sound. OH MY, where have I heard that before!?!?!
Let me give you a clue, Dipietro family. A little caring about others and caring about their feelings goes a long way. I know that is not what you are used to doing in your family, but give it a try. You might find the response you get back from others is a kinder response. While the yard may have been your yard, the items placed there were bought and paid for by others. Those others had a right to know you would be removing them. But if you had the habit of caring for others, you would know this already and no one would have to tell you.
Posted by Anon Y Mouse at 7/09/2012 03:40:00 PM
it appears I missed some removed comments, I'll just sit back quietly about this... oh wait, I can't... one thing: I don't perceive Selena's motivations to be the way KJ described above. Again, perhaps that comes from ones perspective. My experience is that family often comes together in times of crisis, not for accolades.
DeleteThanks, Obscure. Like I said, I haven't seen anything from her lately, so clearly I was supporting her blindly. I'm a one blog woman, what can I say? ;)
DeleteExactly, Space. My feeling, too. But in order to say that about Selena, we must give that same consideration to Ayla's ex step grandfather, lol.
DeleteSounds like KJ has multiple personalty disorder. Geeze.
Delete@ Space,
DeleteThe above comments that Obscure has posted comes from KJ's "Blogger Crazies" blog. They were her Blog post.
I myself never agreed with anything on her blog. I did read the blog a couple times. I also made 2 comments there recently concerning Ayla's picture.
Being, I think it is very disrespectful to Ayla using a picture of her in this manner.
S - I saw that blog a couple times, commented once. I don't remember seeing that post.
DeleteMichelle - that's like comparing an apple and a banana
...I read it. Thats her opinion, she has a right to it.
DeleteBye Bye KJ, don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.
ReplyDeleteKarma sucks, huh?
DeleteKJ seems nutty, like the rest of them over there with Vt Lady and Tori.
ReplyDeleteWhere is Tori? Why hasn't she at least said "I'm taking a break" on her own blog?
ReplyDeleteHas VT Lady responded anywhere?
KJ accuses and asks questions later then follows it up with her pathetic "I'm so sorry I jumped the gun, I'm only human" excuse. I've heard it too many times in the last 7 months. She pretends to be on your side and agree with you to get information and then uses it to wreak havoc on you later. She doesn't care who she hurts and she only wants to be where the action is. If everyone was on Justin's side out loud and visible, she would be siding up with him and making nasty comments about Trista. What she doesn't realize is that the entire country is not on the Ayla blogs posting their opinion. The majority of the people supporting Justin are busy working at life and being productive. It is sad that she started out doing something good for people who are missing and their families and she has ruined it by trashing her own reputation. I know exactly who I would call in what order if my child or someone that I love was missing. KJ isn't even on the list.
ReplyDeleteWell youre not my mom....There isnt enough bible verses quoted.
ReplyDeleteThe rest of the story! The post above that I wrote about Selena, was suppose to have HER note that I was responding to. Unfortunately, only half of my post was shared. This is the FULL note showing that my response was to that ONE particular note by Selena. My response that was shared here was not about anything except the note of hers.
ReplyDeleteSelena Johnson13.7.12
At Wackadoo "MOUTH" 13.7.12
You step back! Put yourself in Daddy's shoes dammit!! You try to protect your daughter by taking her out of a VERY abusive situation and someone takes her!! Out of her bed!! WTF!!! Wouldnt you think the mother of that child came and took her!!! Dont friggin lecture me! I am as freakin fair as they get!! You dont know me so you cant make that judgement!! Everyone who knows me knows I am fairminded so get off my back!! You have no emotional ties to this so how would you friggin know how anyone feels?? What gives you the right to say shit!!?? You dont know what happened between Trista and her friend but naturally you say it has to do with something totally different huh?? Dont ever lecture me again.I am not a friggin child! I have lived more life than 90% of you will ever live.You dont like whats being said here go away! I have not accused anyone of shit! You go get counseling. For stickin your friggin nose in where it isnt wanted or needed. You have done nothing but piss me off. Next time sign your damned name mouth. I dont like phoney people and thats all I ever see on these friggin blogs. Phoney people! Ohhhh I would do thisssss and I would do thattttt. Oh they are monsters cause they stir their coffees to clockwise instead of counterclock wise. YOUR IDIOTS! A bunch of friggin idiots! Im sure Justin and family are gonna wanna kissy kiss after they have been called murderers! WTF is wrong with you?? You as in Tori's pals on that blog had a lot to do with the reason Justin and family are how they are! Now your saying to kissy kiss? You no what you can kiss?? OOOOhhhhh wow!! You are a detective!! You guessed!! errrr as a father dont you think Justin would be loosing it by now? So now what mouth wheres you friggin answers??
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My response you've all seen, it was shared above.
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The only reason I post this whole note at all, is because I do believe some people here care about fair, I'm sure some do not. As for the photo of Ayla, I know some do not agree with it and some do. Just because some bury their heads in the sand to some possibilities (on both sides of this case), does not mean those things they ignore aren't possible.
I have no idea if Justin knows where Ayla is, but I do know that the LE believes he knows more and I know that many people out there believe that too. It doesn't mean that's true, but it doesn't make it false either. Truth is, no one knows but those involved in the actual disappearance of Ayla. The frustration for everyone lies in the fact that apparently no one knows who those people are. - KJ
@ KJ,
DeleteAs I stated on your blog, It is my opinion that using Ayla's pictures to hurt someone, or for accusing innuendo, is disrespectful to Ayla.
I don't understand how anyone can justify using Ayla in that manner. She is an innocent, missing toddler.
How is not approving of Ayla being used to hurt others, or accusing innuendo writen on her pictures, burying ones head in the sand?
It's not about Justin or what LE believe. It's about Ayla. I just wish that those using her pictures in this way would just ask themselves, how would she feel about being used to hurt someone?
Surely there are countless other ways to express your opinions about Justin other than *using* an innocent missing baby.
KJ - is there a reason you took Selena's response to someone harassing her so personally? Clearly that's not "the rest of the story!" as Selena responding to an anonymous comment attacking her directly. Some people go out of their way to come to this blog for the sole purpose of giving Selena crap. So, how does her justifiably angry response to an anon person harassing her warrant a foul-mouthed diatribe from you that includes calling her a "foul-mouthed nasty bitch?" Selena is hurting for Ayla as much as any of the rest of us, and she is also hurting for her family. I guess I'd expect this from a teenage anon, coming from you is a little shocking.
DeleteReally?, All I can say is that how her post hit me and I responded with how I felt at that moment. I'm sorry I shocked you, sometimes I shock myself.
DeleteFor the most part, I find Selena's posts to be quite reasonable and informative, that particular one (for whatever reason) set me off. It happens, I'm imperfect.
It's really unfortunate that so many people get "angry" at people on the internet and the way some talk to others (me included), would never happen face to face. That's a fact. I think we would all be more reasonable standing in a room together.
Both Selena's response to the comment from the anonymous person and my response to hers, would probably have been better to just move along, but sometimes emotions get the better of me. That is evident all over the blogs. (I'm not alone there!)
As I have said before, I am not proud or happy about everything I've ever said or done. I'm human and I will allow myself errors every now and again, even if others do not. - KJ
S. I understand that is how you view, obviously it is not how I view it. In my opinion, the LE has stated that they believe not all information from the 3 at the house that night has been given out. Many people believe the LE. I have no reason to believe that the LE is lying with that opinion.
DeleteAyla's photo wasn't used to hurt anyone, it was used to try to get someone (anyone) to loosen their tongue and say what happened to Ayla. I totally understand that many people believe that Justin has told all he knows and that there isn't anything else for him to say. That may be true or it may not be true. We don't know, only Justin knows. In the end, SOMEONE took Ayla and that person is out there somewhere, probably reading these blogs and sites. Perhaps seeing her face over and over might get them to fess up.
Ayla did not walk out of that house on her own. Someone helped her out and that person (whoever it is, and surely I have no idea) should be pushed until they say. - KJ
KJ,
DeleteWe will just have to agree to diagree.
I don't think you understand my problem with using Ayla in this way. It's not about Justin, it's about Ayla.
You said her photo wasn't used to hurt someone. I think it very well could have. I don't think using a photo of Ayla, no matter what anyone writes on it, is going to persuade the person who is responsible for her disappearance to come forward.
KJ - saying "I'm imperfect" and "I'm human and will allow myself errors every now and again" is really not holding yourself to any higher standard is it? It sounds like "I did it, and I'll do it again if I feel I want to." Honestly I had you on a bit of a pedestal in the beginning. You seemed like a voice of reason amidst the chaos, which is what I would expect from a woman in your position. I found your tirade at Selena to be embarrassing and unbecoming... certainly not a voice of reason. Frankly, I'm disappointed by things I've read. I get that is my problem, not yours.
DeleteIf you've been following this blog all along, as it seems you have (even noting that for the most part you find Selena's comments to be quite reasonable and informative) I would have thought you would have a better sense of her motivations, beliefs, and what she's going through.
Really?, I have followed this blog, but certainly have not followed it totally (meaning, I have not read every thread,comment). I've read some with gaps of time where I have read none. I can safely say that the particular note of Selena's that I responded to on my blog, was the only one that hit me that way. I wrote my response, not here, but on my own blog, where for the most part, I believe 2 or 3 other people might have found it. It was my place to vent and let out some of my feelings, frustrations in an anonymous fashion. I never invited people to join in. If someone happened acrossed it, so be it. Had the post not been shared here, it would have remained relatively unknown. I do hold myself to higher standards, but I don't put myself on a pedestal (and would prefer no one else do so either). I'm imperfect and I'm human, only allows me the same playing field as others. I make mistakes, I get frustrated, I want to shout and scream sometimes. Sadly, I don't have the luxury to be able to do that without a spotlight. Perhaps I should have just shouted out in my house and let my family think I was nuts and leave it at that. But I didn't, I wrote it on a blog. I thought she was going overboard on the anonymous poster in her response. I reacted. Many people are going through stuff (none of us really know what others are going through, or not), we might assume a lot of things, but we don't know.
DeleteI can't say anymore than I have said. I am who I am and although, I'm not proud of that note and I'm sorry I said what I said, there's really nothing more I can do.
And my saying I'm imperfect and human, wasn't an excuse for my lack of judgement in that response, but it was my way of saying that I allow myself to move forward and not beat myself up over it. Everyone is certainly entitled to their thoughts and opinions, but it doesn't change what happened. I'm not the only one who ever said things they later regret. I will certainly think twice in the future before saying anything.
BTW, thank you for your honest opinions, I appreciate them and I certainly do not disagree with your assessment. It was wrong of me to not be more compassionate in that moment. - KJ