2.14.2013

Mountain Mama: Nothing, I was WRONG



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EDIT: The link has been provided. It was Dale asking a question. So since the link was provided, I'm going to concede the point. It happened. Mountain Mama didn't lie. I apologize for the mistake on MY part.

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  1. Among many things that have stood out to me is the fact that Trista has not been ruled out as a suspect. It means she either doesn't have a strong alibi, they have evidence against her, or both. Otherwise she would be cleared. Period.

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    1. BINGO! There's unequivocal evidence that Ayla died in the DiPietro home, yet TRISTA remains a suspect.

      shade.

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    2. Where is it stated as fact that Trista was and remains a suspect?

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    3. You are incorrect, Hillary. It is pretty typical actually NOT to publicly clear anyone from being a suspect in a missing person(s) investigation.

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    4. Hillary, what does it mean to you that Justin, Courtney, Elisha and Phoebe haven't been ruled out as suspects, haven't been cleared? Have those facts stood out to you? Can we assume that none of them have strong alibis or what? Otherwise they would have been cleared. Period.

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    5. Anon - yes they don't have strong alibis or there is evidence against them. LE has already stated that they "don't pass the straight face test." My point is Trista hasn't been cleared either so to give her a pass before law enforcement does - it just doesn't make sense.

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  2. Then I'm sure she will provide a source or a link.

    Otherwise, she's a big fat liar in my eyes.

    They pull up comments posted here from a year ago, she can find this latest nonsense and link people to it.

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  3. This is a good example of a BIG problem.
    Someone reads an anonymous comment made by someone, somewhere, repeats it, then it becomes a fact.

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  4. OT:

    Okay. I must admit, I'm intrigued. What could be Jeff's next surprise?

    Answers4Ayla says: February 12, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    "Thank you Dee for you sentiments. My thoughts on the DiPietro’s may surprise you (as well as a lot of other people), but I have been biding my time for an upcoming post."
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    Anyone care to speculate what Jeff's "upcoming post" may reveal?

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    1. That the DiPietto's are running a pedo ring? Serious answer here...

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    2. No, but what I will speculate on is that it is odd that Jeff would suddenly appear on U4A after a months-long absence and put out a really good teaser - but would withhold the really "juicy" stuff for a Yahoo "contributor" to write a blog post about. CBG is nothing more than any other blogger in the world, she has no more legitimacy, other than Jeff feels more inclined to give her the inside scoop over than the people who are actually working every single day, all day, to advocate for Ayla on U4A.

      John P and MountainMama and Chicky and the rest should be pissed that CBG got this "scoop" over U4A.

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    3. Hmmm,
      Guessing that he might have a few positive thoughts, since he feels that it may surprise a lot of people.

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    4. Anonymous2/14/13, 10:16 PM

      No, but what I will speculate on is that it is odd that Jeff would suddenly appear on U4A after a months-long absence and put out a really good teaser - but would withhold the really "juicy" stuff for a Yahoo "contributor" to write a blog post about. CBG is nothing more than any other blogger in the world, she has no more legitimacy, other than Jeff feels more inclined to give her the inside scoop over than the people who are actually working every single day, all day, to advocate for Ayla on U4A.

      John P and MountainMama and Chicky and the rest should be pissed that CBG got this "scoop" over U4A.
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      Fucking great post!!!!!!!

      PS: Scout...is that you? Something about the intelligence of this post brings you to mind...

      Anyway...whoever you are...you hit it on the nail, IMO.

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    5. Anonymous 2/14 10:16

      I agree it is odd indeed that Jeff appears out of the blue, signs the blog over to John, and releases info that he knows is going to cause controversy. I have no doubt that there is some sort of aganda.
      As To CBG, she was willing to write Jeff's BS, simple as that. A legitimate journalist would not print such without verification. She is just a blogger, and is quite biased.
      I think he ask her to write it because he felt it might make it seem more legitimate to some. Might reach more people than U4A.

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    6. the space between2/15/13, 11:01 AM

      The whole "Justin drove 160 miles the morning of the 17th" is strange to me - the implication being made is that Justin disposed of Ayla during that trip - if that story is true, and LE believes that was the point of the trip - then why have they repeatedly searched the river and stream that's a mile away from the house?

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  5. the space between2/14/13, 7:42 PM

    it rings a bell for me - but I don't remember where I heard it - or, if it was a credible source

    S. - You have a fantastic memory - do you recall anything about this?

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  6. McKee is right. Here is the proof. MM is not the liar. Know your topic like Mountain Mama, and maybe people will believe you too!

    Dale Morse
    Here are just a couple of questions from the other point of view. How did Trista find out about the life insurance if he didn't offer the info to her LE? Why did Trista originally state she had an alibi, when I am not sure how riding to Machiasport after asking Justin if she could take Ayla to visit Ray is a good alibi. Why and how did Justin know Ayla would be at Jessica's back in October if both Grammy Becca and Jessica was watching her?

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  7. I understand, Obscure. I try to cite my sources when I post a comment, especially one that is sensational and potentially explosive.

    Jeff Hanson has lied. Ashley P has lied. I have never known MM to lie. MM's error was not having her source/link on hand for verification.

    I maintain MM didn't fabricate this potential bombshell from fairy dust.

    But yeah...I respect your zero-tolerance policy of "no link, no credibility."

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  8. mountain mama says: February 14, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    OT I’m posting this down here so everyone at another site can see that I was NOT lying.

    Dale Morse
    Here are just a couple of questions from the other point of view. How did Trista find out about the life insurance if he didn’t offer the info to her LE? Why did Trista originally state she had an alibi, when I am not sure how riding to Machiasport after asking Justin if she could take Ayla to visit Ray is a good alibi. Why and how did Justin know Ayla would be at Jessica’s back in October if both Grammy Becca and Jessica was watching her?
    http://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=471048106238637&id=2
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    You'll get no argument from me that this is an EXTREMELY weak source, Obscure. But at least MM cited it to defend that she didn't pull it out of thin air.

    FB postings are the most unreliable source for information. People have agendas...vendettas. Some posters are quite mentally ill...give them a missing toddler page, and they're all over it. FB has to be the ultimate nightmare for LE.

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  9. McKee says....Jeff Hanson has lied. Ashley P has lied.But yeah...I respect your zero-tolerance policy of "no link, no credibility."
    Please cite your sources Mckee

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  10. MM was stating that someone said something. She was not stating anything about the reliability of the source.

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  11. No Space, I didn't/don't recall this.

    I don't do Facebook though.
    I rarely read at SA.
    Didn't read @ J4A in the early months.

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  12. My "sources" are obvious, Oneannon. Items in the dam did not contribute to the finding that Ayla was dead as Jeff released in the leaked email Why is Jeff/Trista working with Cynthia Caron to create an "age-progressive" photo of Ayla if there is "unequivocal evidence" that Ayla is deceased? Why did Jeff release the details on the blankets and Portland trip while Trista was cautioned not to release details? Why were we suddenly told that Trista was told before AND after the vigil about the "cupful"...in Augusta, and again in Waterville?

    I was under the impression you and I were in agreement re: Ashley P. Do you want me to go there, too?

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  13. Korrigan says:February 14, 2013 at 7:39 pmHere is a thought! It is a possibility that Ayla is on the Turds property. Maybe Justin had a bunch of drugs at his house…. so he drove 80 miles to Portland to hand them off to who ever for safe keeping.I have been told that the Turds property has a lot of security. If this is so, then why do they need everything to be secure? hmmmm….. what do they think a trespasser might find?Reply

    And then...

    addie says:February 14, 2013 at 8:30 pmseems like a good hit korrigan. i wonder if le can or will get a search warrant for there prop. i think it would be a good idea too.


    Are these people serious? Holy shit. I am really beginning to believe that some of these assholes need help. ...Omfg...it's so scary. I understand they want to find out what happened to ayla but at what cost? Ruining the lives of people who aren't named suspects or have no real confirmed link to the crime. There are babies and other people in that house. This is crazy. Idk who that familys kid was friends with or what he did or that Heidi took in Justin right now. This is out of control. I personally think Justin's side stinks to high heaven and Derek too but this to me, and Id like to believe most people with fully functioning brains, is dangerous shit to toss around.
    It's really a sad case I think that we all cross lines with saying nasty shit but come the eff on.

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    1. If you stop and think about it Mrs Turd is the main spokesman for Justin. When she refers to Le saying something she includes herself as the one who is being spoken too(sometimes making herself so important that LE would speak to her before Justin) and has put herself in this position. There are alot of senerios that could be or need to be thrown in the rot pot. When she herself has put herself out there and her face fully in it, she alone has created her own hell so to speak. But I agree that everyone needs to stand back and take a deep breath. LE is in control and perfectly able to do what is needed. But as a spoken......you throw shit enough and it will eventually hit you square in the face. Remember the saying...you can run but you can't hide. Eventually you have to answer to someone, and we all have to answer to God. I still pray she is alive and can be reunited with family. Here is where I stand until there is no more questions only facts.

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    2. Why would LE speak to Heidi before Justin? Where did you see that? Link please.

      Yes I can see how Heidi put herself fully in it by standing up for up for something she seems to believe in. Shame on her. And shame on you too then for "standing here until there is no more questions only facts" Or are you the only person allowed to do so?

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    3. Somehow that poster thinks it okay to just make up bullshit that truly damage a family with innocent members. To say a home has security because the holding a large amount of drugs is off the charts insane and hen to actually suggest calling le without any grounds in more so. Smh

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  14. I think Jeff knows exactly what he is doing.

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  15. John P: But we all know that McCausland will come back and refute or correct any inaccurate statement of this much importance, including his own, and he hasn’t. So why do you bother to reference McCausland when he has not refuted any comments made recently on a blog, on any TV station or in any print?

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    No, John P., that's false and borders beyond ludicrous!

    Department of Public Safety spokesman Steve McCausland said he had "no reaction" to the website's claims, adding that the information shared during that meeting "is between us and her."

    "I'm not going to get into specifics other than to repeat what I've said: We think it's unlikely (Ayla) is still alive," he said.


    http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/ayla-reynolds-relative-posts-information-about-meeting-with-investigators_2013-02-11.html

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    HE DOES NOT REFUTE CLAIMS MADE ON BLOGS. The absence of a refutation does not equate his agreement or veracity of what's claimed, speculated or rumored to be true.

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    1. the space between2/15/13, 1:44 PM

      agreed TT -

      also, McCausland specifically stated the info shared at the meeting "is between us and her." He didn't say "between us and the Reynolds." Honestly, given Trista's reported issues (and actually even if she didn't have any) they shouldn't have met with her by herself. Jeff does not state that he or anyone else was included in the meeting, he stated he got his information from Trista. (not Trista AND Becca or Ron or an attorney, etc)

      I posted this on a previous blog post, but I think it fits here:

      If it's true that Trista has bi-polar disorder and has had substance abuse/withdrawal issues - I wouldn't expect that she would have a full grasp on reality. She might intentionally lie, but also her idea of what is true could vary from one moment to the next. What I don't understand is how Jeff could know her all these years, and know her issues, and publicly release "information" as truth based on her word. I have known, and love, some people with bi-polar disorder. Sometimes I recognize what they are saying is true for them, that doesn't make it reality. (example: If a person with bi-polar disorder told me my neighbor had $1,000 of my money, I'm not going to go knock on that neighbor's door, and then call the police, blog about it, sue him, and generally try to ruin his life... in the meantime, the person who said it would have forgotten they even did so... and may, in fact, believe I was the one who said it to them.) Long story short - Jeff should know better.

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    2. Very good point Space,

      Actually Jeff does know better and has said the same thing.

      Jeff...
      "One thing that you and some of your readers may not understand about Trista is that she is not capable of lying.. sometimes she misinterprets, or misreads...."

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    3. Is that like Cindy Anthony saying Casey told mistruths?

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  16. Where has Jeff actually lied?

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  17. So now I just wonder, has anybody heard of LE conducting searches in Portland ? According to the Reynolds, Justin took a trip to Portland before reporting Ayla missing, supposedly to dispose of Ayla's body. Yet LE have been searching for Ayla's body in the river of Waterville ? If LE really believed that Justin took a trip to Portland to dispose of Ayla's body they wouldn't have kept searching for Ayla's body in Waterville.

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  18. So why is this blog so quiet about the round trip to Portland before calling 911 ? Hmmmmmmm trying to find a reason this got out too ? But of course, they are all lying & your covering !

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    1. So if LE believes that Justin disposed of Ayla's body in Portland, why did they keep looking in Waterville ?

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    2. hmmmm, maybe because this blog is in moderation and we all have to wait for obscure to approve comments because of trolls that cant control themselves?????

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    3. You guys are unable to control yourselves but your posts still manage to appear.

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    4. funny, and so do yours.....

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  19. the space between2/15/13, 2:00 PM

    I don't remember whether someone had stated it as fact or if it was just questioned or speculated about. I do remember we discussed it was strange that Trista could make a 4 hour trip to the prison, but not stop on the way to try to see her daughter who she was reportedly concerned about.

    I've been looking at some old articles and found this which I didn't recall:

    "My daughter went into rehab; me and my oldest daughter had Ayla, and (DHHS) had her removed from us to go with her dad," said Hanson, 45. "I believe (DHHS) did that because they don't like my family. They had no reason to take Ayla." Reynolds was living in an apartment in Portland, and her mother was helping her care for her children, said Hanson. Reynolds has stayed with her parents, who live at separate addresses in Portland, and this week was in a motel in South Portland."

    If I'm interpreting correctly, Trista had just been at the motel a week? Seems like that was an eventful/unusual week for her?

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  20. Just some observations. Jeff appears out of the blue on U4A, states he is parting ways, but then makes himself at home.

    At the same time Pennyauntie states he/she is leaving and has been quiet (although I don't slog through all of those "Amens!" so maybe I missed it.) I have always wondered if Pennyauntie = Jeff.

    Tori also started her "new and improved" Ayla blog but I just checked and she hasn't updated since last Saturday.

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    1. I haven't updated the blog because the premise behind it was to start from the beginning and sort of do a bare bones look at the case using only facts and LE verified info and discuss different scenarios in a hope all sides could come together and discuss. It kind of put a wrench in it all after the most recent announcements by Jeff and Trista. After speaking with Jeff, I would like to continue the blog with Katie and Jeff is supportive of that but we are wondering if it may be better to move it to the old J4A since many already follow the blog. My only apprehension, there is a lot of content on it that is not fair to some that are not directly involved that I would like their input on in this case. I haven't had a chance to sit and talk with Katie about this and plan on cleaning up the original J4A this weekend. Things have also been hectic this past week hence no blog posts anywhere.

      For clarification on his parting ways post, it was more geared towards me leaving the u4a blog and not neccessarily Jeff although he has not really been active in blogging for much of the time I was gone.

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    2. Also pretty positive I am not PennyAnte, since she hates me and positive Jeff is not PennyAnte either.

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    3. I don't believe Pennyauntie = Jeff, TT. (I do however, THINK "Wordman" was Jeff). First, the writing style and "voice" is very different. Also, I sensed that Penny was truly irritated with Jeff in her departing post...she made it clear that she was ONLY going to heed the words of LE going forward (on that point I give her credit). Jeff delivered a snarky response..."get some sleep, Penny"...I would be pissed off too if I was Penny.

      I realize I'm attributing Penny's gender as female. I may be naive, but I believe Penny IS female. Perhaps a frustrated female, but female all the same.

      The one thing I found peculiar about Pennyauntie was her utter outrage that some believe Ayla might be alive (sadly, I'm not on that "Ayla-is-alive-boat"). When Penny sensed that John P was holding on by a thread of hope, she took him to task. I found that very odd...she essentially berated John for holding out a speck of hope. Why?

      This is, of course, just my take. With the events of the past few days, nothing is going to surprise me going forward. There is something hinky in the air.


      This is of course, just my opinion.

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    4. There was a reply above this one, not sure if it went to spam folder or not but wasn't rude so not sure why it didnt get posted :/

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    5. I never said you were PA, so why would you add that? Defensive about something?

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    6. It was in spam, Tori. It is now posted.

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    7. Thanks obscure and sorry TT wasn't meant to offend but it was posted by someone in a previous thread here that because I played poker and PennyAnte was a poker term maybe I was PennyAnte. I have nothing to be defensive about. Actually attempting to play nice here...

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    8. TT1/28/13, 3:36 AM
      Interesting that Tori was a poker player and Pennyauntie used to post over there at J4A before the blog merger as Penny_ante which is a poker term. hmmmmmmmmm


      This was on a previous post here, sure sounds like you were considering I was penny auntie

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      Penny reminds me of "Jenn" - Jenn's rants, take out the swear words and add some bigger words = Penny

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    10. Tori, I never thought you were Penny, but I did find it interesting that you both either play or have a liking for poker, and wondered if you knew one another. Do you?

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    11. kitty I agree that the style and voice between PA and Jeff is different, and we both agree that PA had an agenda. I do think there is a connection between PA and Jeff and their "spat" was for show to "explain" PA's exit. My gut tells me that PA is a shill for Trista. I can't offer proof, it's speculation, but to me it's TOO coincidental that Jeff shows up and PA, a staple at U4A, takes such great offense that he (I still think he's male and changed Pannyante, a poker term, to auntie to deflect from who he is) leaves.

      As for Tori and PA both liking poker, many people do, but was just questioning things since PA was a regular when Tori was in charge of her blog. I thought maybe they knew one another.

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    12. PA certainly did have an agenda. He/she had NO tolerance for a living Ayla. Why was he/she so threatened that some maintain hope? That was my biggest issue with PA...a bitter and sarcastic tongue towards those that questioned Trista. A forked tongue towards those that believe that without a recovered body, there is always hope.

      And now we have Jeff with his "unequivocal evidence" remark peppered with blankets and a Portland road trip.

      And as S pointed out, why would Trista be collaborating with Cynthia for a more satisfactory age-enhanced photo? Why would Jeff search through Trista's baby pictures to assist in the undertaking? Isn't the evidence "unequivocal"?

      This sudden and dramatic flurry of activity as of late is very strange IMO.

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    13. I don't know who PennyAuntie is

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    14. more questions2/16/13, 12:51 PM

      Strange doesn't even begin to describe it.

      At this point, I swear to God...if Grace lived closer to me, I'd buy her a beer and pick her brain for awhile. I'm not buying the Justin/Trista conspiracy, but some of the other stuff is starting to make a hell of a lot of sense.

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    15. May people have accused Grace of being...well..a lot of negative things.
      I think she is one smart cookie.

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    16. I don't drink, but you can email me and pick my brain anytime...

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  21. Why do I bother?

    I bother because I believe that there is a chnce that Ayla is ALIVE.
    I bother becasue I have HOPE that Ayla will be found.


    I bother becasue, I too want Justice for Ayla. My idea of Justice for Ayla is far removed from yours, John.
    My idea of justice is based on morals and ethics.
    I could never accuse one of "Ayl's family members", or anyone else, of murdering her, or disposing of her without solid, concrete evidence. Doing so would NOT BE JUST to or for Ayla.
    I would never disrespect Ayla by using her pictures to demean, ridicule, or hurt anyone, most importantly "her family members". I would never disrespect her by inventing all sorts of scenarios on how someone killed her or disposed of her.
    I would never use her to hurt and demean people who are in all likelihood innocent of any wrongdoing. (the Tudela's & Angela, members of TLLOM)

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    1. the space between2/15/13, 7:30 PM

      S, not only do I value your opinions, I also have a great deal of respect for you. I appreciate your integrity.

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    2. Fan of Truth and Common Sense2/15/13, 8:40 PM

      S. I will echo what Space said. Actually, I would say the same about both of you.

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    3. Thank you Space & Fan for your kind words.

      Along with you, there are MANY others who comment here that I respect and appreciate.
      Many that make me think.
      Some that make me laugh.



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    4. the space between2/15/13, 9:46 PM

      Thank you. I appreciate your posts as well, Fan.

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  22. Weak sauce. Dale is asking a question, not making a statement. And everything else dale says is trashed but with this she's reliable? Mountain mama gets a pass though, I stand corrected.

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  23. If you stand corrected why is the name of the post still there?

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