Submitted in the comments:
I've heard the hypothesis that Ayla was taken by a corrupt DHHS worker
who didn't want her in the care of either parent. In this scenario, both
parents are innocent &, as a result, pointing fingers (whether
publicly or amongst themselves) at the other.
I always thought this was a bit far-fetched, but I'm curious how others
feel about this. The person who presented this scenario shared that they
know of many DHHS/CPS agencies that have practiced unethical behaviors
like this.
I guess I'm just trying to look at this from all angles. Thoughts?
Anything is possible. We have not heard of any more details directly from LE. Who were the DHHS workers directly involved with Ayla ? Has any of them ever showed up on Violette avenue ? Who did Trista file the papers with ?
ReplyDeleteI remember reading this on somebody else's blog.
ReplyDeleteI feel that if this was an issue with corrupt DHHS agencies we would have heard something a little more substantial other than a small group of people's conspiratorial thoughts.
Having said that though I do believe that government departments are corrupt in many other ways, especially when it comes to covering there backsides when things go wrong, government spending, etc.
Here's another conspiracy for you: Phoebe got her analyses completely wrong and the government took her grand-daughter as payback.
I understand that every avenue should be checked, but some concepts do seem completely alien to me. Every once in a while we do however have a case that comes right out of left field.
The corrupt DHHS person would have had to have this all planned out. And they would have had to get into the house. Too far fetched IMO.
ReplyDeleteIF I wanted to say sell or give a baby to some other family because I cared about the baby and thought the baby would be better off, where would a person even start ?
I know for sure that people who can't have children of their own will go to : Fertility Clinics,Private Adoption Agencies sometimes for overseas adoptions all at a great cost, but I don't know of how the buyer and seller would get together or even become aware of each others desires.
Look at the Gabriele Johnson ( sp )case, how did they meet ? That woman went to great lengths to try to get the baby.
My question
ReplyDeleteWhy was Peter Hyatt the Statement Analysis blogger and also a DHHS worker for the state of Maine commenting and direction suspicion towards Justin on Decemeber 17. First of all LE had made no statements except Ayla was missing. Secondly conflict of interest? I think so.
Peter Hyatt is a huge advocate for placing children in christian homes. It has been said before somewhere there are skeletons in his closet. Dig and you will find them. I believe he was originally from Ohio.
DeleteIf DHHS took Ayla through corruption, I don't think sneaking into someone's house would be their method. Besides, police say no abduction. For this theory to work, you need cooperation from someone in the DiPietro house or you have to prove the police findings erroneous.
ReplyDeleteThis has crossed my mind as well as as alternative to justin being involved in foul play. I do not think that Trista was involved.
ReplyDeleteThere has been a hint of several persons from the various agencies involved along with one dip family member being at the same place at the same time one evening.
Is anyone else aware of the name of the child protective services worker from Lewiston?
I too think that anything is possible.
ReplyDeleteThis is something I would have never thought of or considered, but who knows. Stranger things have happened.
I've read that the caseworker involved in Trista's case (no name) is no longer working with DHHS. I have no idea how true that is.
I've read that the supervisor involved was Karen Small.
I party agree with Intriguing on this. I doubt that a corrupt worker would choose this method. The whole point of corruption is using the system to gain advantage, and an outright kidnapping is definitely not using the system. One could argue that it was a well-meaning DHHS worker who truly cared for Ayla's safety, but again, there was no departmental action that we're aware of against Justin. I would think that a worker who had concerns that were so severe that they would risk a kidnapping would've attempted to remove Ayla using legal means first.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, I would like to add that I do like the idea of people thinking outside the box. For speculation purposes, the suspect pool seems to have been narrowed to those inside the house, and those with direct knowledge of the interior of the house. I feel this is a mistake. For all we know, the perpetrator could've been a masked, armed assailant who intended to bust down the door, but caught a lucky break by finding it unlocked.
I really have to answer the question from above....I am a DHHS worker, however, not in Maine...We do not remove children from homes....we make recommendations to a court of law, and a judge looks at the factors involved and makes the decision...Many professionals are involved in any given case (therapist, doctors, case worker, teacher, etc.)..they would all have to be involved in a conspiracy to decide "they don't like someone, therefore their child is to be taken from them"....please keep in mind that TPR, termination of parental rights is not an easy thing to accomplish...its a case that must be proven in a court of law...I understand that there are professionals in every aspect of every type of employment that may have questionable morals and ethics, but I get a little tired of people acting like social workers walk into homes and on a 'whim' decide if its presentable enough to have a child or judge a person, and decide they don't like them, reach down and snatch their child....its ridiculous...
DeleteThat's the thing...the one who offered this as a scenario was saying a vagrant DHHS worker, not one attempting it legally or with integrity. Like a DHHS worker who saw the situation, could see that DHHS had no reason to remove Ayla from Justin's care legally, maybe thought the broken arm was abuse, maybe knew that the extended family had questionable pasts, and put into motion that s/he would take it upon him/herself to remove her & find a suitable home for Ayla.
DeleteAnd I just want to add one more thing to what I said above....If the state of Maine is allowing social workers to be 'judge' and 'jury' and taking it upon themselves to remove children without court orders, then for GODSAKES get a lawyer and sue....
ReplyDeleteyou know....DHHS cases are confidential...we could lose our jobs if we talked about the cases we see daily...if we have children removed from homes, we are the bad guys....if we fail to remove children from homes....we are the bad guy....we deal with hundreds of cases weekly where we know that whatever decision we make, it will go unappreciated...are you even aware that many parents don't even show up to their court hearings?? thats how little they care about getting their kids back...you have no idea what we see everyday...it would leave you speechless to see what people do to their children, then everyone expects us to fix it...most parents will never admit to any wrongdoing...they simply will state that we march right in there and took their child for no reason...imagine that!!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you for your interesting comment on DHHS Anon
DeleteI'd just like to say that I really appreciate our Social and DHHS workers.
DeleteThey have a very hard and stressfull job. One thing I'm certain of is they go into this field because of their compassionate hearts. They truely care about children and their families, and want to help make a difference in their clients life's.
I know they are very underappreciated.
Thankyou so much 's'...I truly appreciate that...and I'd like to mention that I enjoy reading your posts....they are intuitive and articulate and for that I thank you...
DeleteYou sound like an angry DHHS worker. :(
DeleteIf DHHS cases are confidential shouldn't that mean that people who work in the system like say Peter Hyatt and his wife should not be discussing the case?
Deletewhy wouldnt the Dipetro family or Trista be taking this to the media as a theory?
ReplyDeleteOf course it's a possibility! Nobody has been ruled out- and if it's the case, the longer the finger pointing goes between Justin and Trista, the farther away the real criminal has evaded the truth. BUT the truth always will prevail, it's when...not if.
ReplyDeleteLet's not blame Justin and Trista for not making this a media frenzy...it's LE"s job to look at all angles, nobody elses....unless LE continues to wear blinders and allow even more time to lapse before Ayla comes home.
I can't answer that question because I really don't know what happened between Trista, Justin and DHHS...some posts claim that Justin took Ayla, under the guidance of police, some posts say that DHHS walked in there and
ReplyDeletetook her from the sister and handed her to him...Other posts claim that DHHS was only a mediation tool between the parents....I'm not sure DHHS had the right to intervene if Justin wanted his child...did he have an open case of abuse? did Trista? too many unanswered questions....sometimes in an emergency situation, when police have called DHHS, they may make a quick decision to remove a child for their own safety, but must follow up with a court hearing...had Jessica been declared unfit at some point in time?? some posts claim that she lost her children to DHHS...were they taken or did she willingly give up custody...do you have any idea how many parents give up custody, then claim DHHS walked in and took their kids?? would you ever admit to that??? I have no idea what happened in Maine, I'm just trying to explain that we have rules and regulations to follow, for ethical and legal reasons...we are not allowed to harass or threaten anyone...we are put in place to help families stay together...but WE CAN'T FIX THE BROKENNESS IN ALL THE HOMES WE WALK INTO....alot of parents are beyond help...and the children are lost because of it..yet we still shoulder the blame...doesn't anyone ever take responsibility for what THEY have done in their homes to their children???? I apologize to all of you for my rambling today...Just wanted to defend DHHS worker since I've read nothing but five months of bashing...
I talked with a DHHS worker once and she indicated a great deal of her cases are from separated parents - parents that report each other back and forth, and that it takes a lot of her time in a week, and most of it is unfounded.
DeleteAbuse reported
ReplyDeleteThank you! I hate abusers, so I really appreciate this...
DeleteLol. Me too. Thanks anon. Phew, obscure. Anon had your back! I wonder what kind of abuse was reportedly about to happen?... -yb
DeleteI am still trying to understand if any of this was a blip on the Dipietro's radar,why have they not come out with fists flying to get Ayla back? IN fact, they claim they think they know who took her, but have made no plea, no public decree, nothing. WHo here could honestly say that as a parent,if you had a suspicion you would not be creaming at the top of your lungs. Makes no sense. And if they think it's a DHHS worker, and have said NOTHING, makes less sense.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure that this was a blip on the DiPietros' radar.
DeleteIt was more a question posed by Michelle who wanted to hear others' thoughts on it.
The DiPietros, I'm sure had thoughts and opinions on who may have taken Ayla, that they shared with LE. I'm sure that they continue to offer thoughts and opinions. I hope that LE has investigated those thoughts.
If my child was missing, and I thought I knew who took her, I can NOT honestly say I would be screaming at the top of my lungs about who I thought it was, publicly.
While I've never been in that situation, I believe it would depend on a lot of factors. Such as who I thought it might be, if I thought that publicly voicing it might be harmful in any way to my child. If I thought it could hinder LE's investigation, if I felt that publicly voicing it would make no difference in how quickly she would be found. Just a few.
@ ihear crickets-
Deleteit's clear that the Dipietro family is well aware of the public perception of them and must feel like that is not an option for them. They have opted to deal with Ayla's disappearance in their own way, and to take courses of action that are not that of sitting in front of cameras scrolling off a list of possibilities.
Just as the side that is only pro-Trista (whereas the others are simply pro-Ayla) says at many different junctures that no one who is not in the very same position can guess, gauge, or judge what their reactions WOULD be; the same goes for the Dipietro family.
Whether they want to understand it or not, there is a big difference in the dynamics of what each parent's situation includes. Trista's situation is NOT the same as Justins. And their personalities are about polar opposite. So it is just as easy to say that by the same token you can not assume what should or would be done by a not guilty party. Trista has never had the same elements at play. Period. -yb