Boston's WCVB
published the update on 2-year-old Ayla Reynolds -- originally titled
"Police Believe Missing Maine Toddler Dead" -- early Monday evening,
only to have Stephen McCausland, public information officer with the
Maine State Police, release a statement hours later calling the report
"unattributed, irresponsible and inaccurate," according to the Bangor Daily News.
"That is why I issued a release," McCausland told the newspaper.
"I've never spoken those words and I'm not going to repeat them. I'm
not going to pick apart something that is unattributed, irresponsible
and inaccurate."
So, police have ruled out abduction. Haven't they also said they don't believe that Ayla is DEAD? Why do some people harp on the "no abduction" thing, while at the same time they ignore the fact that McCausland said this? Why does one side continuously think negatively...why does one side want closure and for the public to move on? HMMM....
Maybe I'm reading it wrong...who knows?
I don't think police ever said they believe Ayla is not dead. Sadly, I think it's the only conclusion. I apologize to the family as they want living Ayla, but I don't believe it to be possible.
ReplyDeleteHUH? Did you even read what I wrote? lol
Delete@Anonymous
DeleteHuh? Did you even read what McCausland said? Let me spell it out nice and slow. The reporter states Ayla is dead. McCausland states and quote: that is unattributed, irresponsible, and inaccurate."
I think the original anon is trying to point out the obvious fact. The reporter stated that the MSP THINK Ayla is dead, not that Ayla IS dead. And to that, Steve McCausland stated "that is unattributed, irresponsible, and inaccurate."
DeleteMeaning - he was stating that the MSP never publicly stated that they believe Ayla to be dead. That does not mean they don't think she is, just that they have not publicly stated so. Clearly they are going to be hesitant about declaring someone dead with no proof of death. Look at the river hunts and his statements telling people to check their land - that should tell you exactly what LE is thinking.
Anon, why are you looking for a conclusion!? How about you look for Ayla! Thank you.
DeleteThe original report is no longer available but I believe the significance of it was 1. a lead investigator supposedly provided the info, 2. that person allegedly said the case was being conducted on the premise Ayla was dead. Those are not exact words used. What is important here is the media report effectively said the police were no longer looking for a live baby- and the police of course are both looking for a live baby and a dead one; their job is to solve the crime, regardless of whether Ayla is alive or dead. The lead investigator was not authorized to speak for the police, McCausland was. That was enough to generate a bristly reaction. Nothing that lead investigator said represented official police position because he was not authorized to speak to that issue. To me, this is a lot of internal politics. The essence of the report was that police believe Ayla is dead, not that they are limiting the investigation to only consider that possibility.
DeleteI will agree with you on one stance^, that there are a LOT of internal politics, as you may make reference, I prefer to call it a bunch of " shenanigans," going on in that LE Department.
DeleteIf police think she isn't dead and ruled out abduction what do they think happened?
ReplyDeleteYour guess is as good as mine!
DeleteDo you think that they have a hunch on who has her and they are not announcing suspects in case the person try's to run away further with Ayla. Just want hear other opinions on this. I think anyone on both sides of the family could have taken her.
DeleteWho are you asking this to? Nobody knows what LE thinks or knows. Focus on Ayla and bringing her home. Thanks! :)
DeleteLE is not going to state that a missing person is deceased without a recovery unless there is irrefutable evidence that a death has occurred. All official search efforts have been aimed at recovery. There are been several river searches. MSP are not asking for the public's help or appealing to any kidnapper to return the baby. Whether you agree with their conclusion or not, it is pretty clear what LE believes has occurred.
ReplyDeleteLE can most definitely say if they are searching for a live person or if they are on a recovery mission. You don't know what LE is officially doing, now do you? You don't know who they are interviewing or what other avenues they are pursuing. Unless, you are that fly on the wall.
DeleteYour post is spot on, Eve. We see the same scenario play out over and over again in missing children cases. Caylee Anthony, Kyron Horman, Lisa Irwin, Gabriel Johnson..... LE has too be very careful what they state publicly. Of course in some cases a missing child case is publicly labeled a homicide before the child is reccovered, but iit doesn't happen often.
DeleteSo the 1000 of hours devoted to following tips and man hours put into ongoing research and investigation. What would you call that Eve? Because LE is doing all those things and if you think that is not costly, that, that is not a huge part of the huge cost incurred you are blind. That is still being done on a daily basis. That is the largest part of this investigation. Those things are looking for a live child also. Pretty clear LE is doing their job still and does not know what occurred and is following through and looking in all directions as they should. Unlike some in the public sadly.
DeleteLE generally conducts parallel investigations in missing child cases for a couple of reasons. LE may focus on family members, but they are duty bound to follow through on all leads and tips whether consistent with their theory of the crime or not. If this case were ever to be prosecuted without a recovery, failure to follow up on reported sightings could be used to raise reasonable doubt at trial. I don't think it likely we'll hear about the remainder of the blood evidence or the recently recovered items unless or until arrests are made. Once arrests are made, all evidence would be available to defendants and their attorneys through discovery. In the meantime, LE is not going to tip their hand during an ongoing investigation. Of course everyone who suspects the DiPietros would be very happy to be proven wrong if Ayla truly was abducted and found safe. There just doesn't seem to be anything to raise hope in that direction that I can see.
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DeleteDid it ever occur to you that conducting parallel investigations is done for the simple fact that they are "duty bound" to also look for a live child. I am sure LE has more than one theory. If they have tunnel vision they would not be very good at their job now would they?
You are right though it is unlikely LE is going to tip their hand during an investigation. I am just going to let that statement stand.
Eve said:
Delete"LE generally conducts parallel investigations in missing child cases for a couple of reasons. LE may focus on family members, but they are duty bound to follow through on all leads and tips whether consistent with their theory of the crime or not. If this case were ever to be prosecuted without a recovery, failure to follow up on reported sightings could be used to raise reasonable doubt at trial. I don't think it likely we'll hear about the remainder of the blood evidence or the recently recovered items unless or until arrests are made. Once arrests are made, all evidence would be available to defendants and their attorneys through discovery. In the meantime, LE is not going to tip their hand during an ongoing investigation. Of course everyone who suspects the DiPietros would be very happy to be proven wrong if Ayla truly was abducted and found safe. There just doesn't seem to be anything to raise hope in that direction that I can see."
EXACTLY! Another great post! This is SOP in a criminal investigation. One current example--the Kyron Horman case. Although law enforcement has never publicly stated that they believe Kyron is deceased, they are 99% confident that he is. I know someone--official SAR--who has been involved in the case from early on as well as two different police officers; all three individuals have said the same thing--they have determined through their investigation that Terri Horman is absolutely responsible for Kyron's disappearance, and he is likely deceased. However, there is the very slightest possibility, (that less than one percent), that she sold Kyron. So, either until they recover Kyron or build enough of a circumstantial evidence case for an airtight prosecution, Terri Horman remains free. It is much harder to successfully prosecute a missing child case as opposed to an adult without recovery of the victim; whereas an adult usually leaves what is called an electronic footprint, (cell phone activity, bankcard and/or ATM transactions, etc.), a child usually doesn't. Of course any normal person would prefer for a miracle and Ayla returned safely. I personally would love to be proven wrong about the DiPietro/Roberts family members. I think that it is quite telling that law enforcement haven't made another statement regarding the items found; they would have been able to determine by now if they are related to Ayla or not. Remember one of the previous searches when a backpack was found? They analyzed it and publicly declared very quickly that it had nothing to do with the investigation.
Eve - as you mentioned above "LE is not going to state that a missing person is deceased without a recovery unless there is irrefutable evidence that a death has occurred." I believe that as well. The "blood evidence" that many feel is proof of death, must not be. LE knows more than the public does.
DeleteWell Eve, Ayla must be dead then, because if LE believes it, it must be true. Who are these LE people, ordinary citizens maybe, just like us. It appears they have "no clue" what happened to Ayla!
DeleteIf they are playing games with the DiPietro's, and giving Trista all the evidence they have, what we really have here are the Keystone Cops!!! From what I see, they are catering to public opinion, They need to look elsewhere, as their current thoughts have not gotten them anywhere.
They have a one track mind on this case, IMO. You can't solve a crime with that mentality.
signed: getrealpeople
Eve, Your comment: "LE generally conducts parallel investigations...", are you a part of law enforcement in Maine!? Or, do you keep up with all the missing persons cases and think that makes you an expert on all cases? If, what you say is correct, Maine needs an overhaul of their LE system!
DeleteLE has already said that not all the blood was Ayla's. LE has already said items were found that could be linked to Ayla. How would it ruin their investigation to say they are linked to Ayla? The perp already knows, if they disposed of items in the area they were found. Hey, even Trista said some of the blood they found was from her menstral cycle!
Maybe, LE needs to expand their search. Know what I mean!
signed: getrealpeople
Eve, although you sound educated, LE is not here to raise your hope, and at this point hope is all we independently have. Even if you truly believe that Ayla is 1% of the missing population recovered deceased, why give up hope for Ayla *publicly*???? what is your purpose in doing so?
DeleteLE said the first backpack was not related to Ayla right away because it had a name and year on it ,and it was returned to the owner.It had been stolen.
Delete99% of missing children's cases the children that are found are found alive. Don't know where Jessica got her statistics.
DeleteLee, the point is that LE had no problem publicly acknowledging that the backpack found in an earler search was unrelated to the investigation. It is irrelevant whether the item was stolen or not. What is relevant is the fact that LE has not publicly acknowledged that the items discovered 2 weeks ago are not related to this case; they have had ample time to make that determination. It is also telling that they returned to the SAME AREA to search again and discovered more items that they are conducting tests on.
DeleteSorry for the typos. I'm commenting from my cell phone, and I didn't see the double letters until the comment was posted.
ReplyDeleteI think McCausland was angry because the media printed something he did not say or insinuate. What he and LE 'thinks' is another story. It is not for the press to print what they aSSume he thinks.
ReplyDeleteI support this blog and none of the others. That said, I do not agree with thinking that Trista or her family had anything to do with Ayla's going missing. I also think Ayla is dead. I suppose by process of elimination, that says I think the Dips are responsible, but I still do not think any of them caused her death. I guess that means the Dingo took her, eh?
Fact is, I just do not know what to think. I am bewildered by this case. My current thinking is that one or more of the Dips (and/or Courtney) have an idea of who took her and what happened, and that there is a fear component in this case. What I mean is that they are afraid to talk; afraid of the person(s) who hurt or took Ayla.
I realize this sounds like crazy thinking, but it's no more crazy than some of the wild theories the Dip haters come up with.
30k is a lot of money to some people. The fact that nobody has stepped forward with information that helps solve this case is 'troubling' to me, and sadly that doesn't look very good for the Dips. Yet, we do not know if someone has stepped forward. Maybe Courtney, Elisha, Derek.......and who knows who else.....has already provided LE with vital information, but not yet enough to find/arrest the perp.
"I just do not know what to think. I am bewildered by this case." - you're not alone in that, Bystander.
DeleteSometimes the guilty will talk very little; sometimes the guilty will talk too much. I don't know if either applies here. Sometimes it seems like one or both "sides" are lying; sometimes it seems they are telling the truth. Sometimes I feel like Ayla is ok, and sometimes I don't. My mind can't believe that someone in the house intentionally harmed Ayla and everyone else is covering for it. Child abuse gone too far? Why would they stick together? Accident? Why not call an ambulance? Then, if only 1 or 2 people in the house did something, wouldn't the other/s be suspicious by now and say something? How could 1 or 2 people keep the act up with the others?
I guess it's easier on the heart to think that Trista took her baby back. I don't understand when some think that speculation is "malicious" - especially when their own speculations involve murder. I don't understand the excitement some get about potential evidence to prove Ayla is deceased. It makes me feel heartsick. Sometimes it seems they just want to be "right."
Sometimes I feel like neither Trista nor Justin know what happened to Ayla. Then I wonder about the people they each know, and if any of them would do something "for" or "against" one or the other with Ayla.
Prayers for all who are hurting.
Confusion and frustration dwell in my house as well.I value both of your opinions when I read.Your thoughts and words are not hampered by boundaries. Thanks for that. It makes for intelligent conversation and debate.
DeleteBystander, I find it very rude that you call the DiPietro's "Dips". You spell out everyone else's names. I take offense at that. Their name is Dipietro!
Deletesigned: getrealpeople
@Bystander, who wrote,
Delete...30k is a lot of money to some people. The fact that
nobody has stepped forward with information that helps
solve this case is 'troubling'...
Yes, exactly. How do we want to preface this? - IMHO... There was movement in that forward direction, and there is a potential for some of that forward movement to resume - if the fear factor subsides, that is. This is why I have resorted to posting online.
Aside from the individual that took Ayla out of her home, there were three individuals that could have claimed the money, and did attempt to do that without endangering their own lives. Mind you, they were not involved in Ayla's disappearance in any way.
One is dead.
One is incarcerated.
One found an untidy hidey hole.
Drugs were involved, yet were not related to Ayla's disappearance or discovery.
Time after time, with missing children cases, I see Federal and State LE swoop in and make drug busts and then leave. Wham, bam, thank you, ma'am. Oh, no, wait a minute! They don't say thank you. Money, money, money! Didn't you notice? The Waterville local police got stuck with the bill, and were tasked to make eating and sleeping arrangements for the others.
YES, local LE, you betcha we saw that!
It seems a lot of the evidence is affected, too. Personally, I think the Feds are too 'busy' to fill out the forms. Truth - if you can find one that isn't corrupt, you'll find he/she won't/can't do their job anyway.
JUDE found an honest, hard-working police detective - who was aware and knew how to listen. When he was shown what I have seen, he wanted to kill - which was not in his temperament.
Jude left the man the way he was found and walked away.
So... I'm wondering... was there a handgun reported stolen from the DiP residence, too? Or was that a secret? Sometimes I can't remember if it's something I saw, or something I read about on a blog.
Bystander, when they first dredged waterways, Ayla was alive.
posted by pogamen 5/11/12
Power of god amen, I have never met someone like you. Peace be with you. A+ for grammar.
DeleteInteresting comments here, wonder if LE still reading this???
DeleteIt's possible, as in many past cases, that LE does not know who took Ayla, at this point in time,or what happened to her just yet. The point is, if 99% of missing children *are* returned home, and McCausland stated their belief of her death is " innacurrate," I'm then completely missing how anyone can focus on Ayla being dead. Yes, there is a one percent chance she has fallen into that percentage, but, what kind of person, without evidence, focuses on the 1%? .....the negative! It's never too late to become the kind of person who is positive...why not just start today? :) Ayla would want you to keep hope and focus on her chances...all 99% of them! (national statistics released in 2012 by NCMEC)
ReplyDeleteBystander, I often think like you. But I don't think Elisha has anything to do with Ayla's disappearance. What worries me is the troubling amount of blood, and LE not debunking what Jeff stated in his blog. But I still have a hard time believing that all of them in the house are covering up for Ayla's death, but I also don't think Trista or Jeff have any idea where Ayla is (maybe someone in her family ? But then there is the blood. When LE discloses more information, confirms or debunks some of it, then it will be a lot easier to have an idea about what really happened.
ReplyDeleteThere was not a troubling amount of blood found. What they said was that the discovery of blood some belonging to Ayla was troubling
DeleteIn missing children's cases who takes children and why? Ayla is a missing child. That can not be disputed by anyone. You can try but it can not. So where is she? Someone took her out of the house because she is not in it. If it is not called an abduction than what is that called? A murder? Where is the proof of that? No one has shown us it so far. So that leaves us with what. What do we call this case then I ask?
ReplyDeleteA good Question by Question. I spent some time looking up definitions of abduction versus kidnapping. It's confusing. I also looked up 'foul play'. That one is not as confusing.
DeleteI do not have an answer for what term is appropriate for this case, but if we go by what LE has stated, they do not believe there was an abduction. Imo, that means that they do not feel that either a family member of a stranger took a living Ayla out of the house. I think that taking a dead or violently injured Ayla out of that house (by anyone) does not qualify as an abduction.
Below is what I got from Merriam-webster's definition of Foul Play. I translate this to mean that LE thinks that Ayla met with violence and possibly death at the hands of someone in the house. Again, that does not necessarily mean it is a slam dunk that it was one of the 3 that were said to be there. We still don't know what all went on in the house the day and night and who was there.
Another thing is that the finding of the blood was probably one of the things that triggered LE's foul play statement. Now that they know how much blood was Ayla's, do they still considered this a case of foul play? Do they have a lot more damming evidence for foul play that we aren't being told about?
FOUL PLAY
Synonyms: blood, homicide, murder, rubout, slaying
Definition of FOUL PLAY
: violence; especially : murder
Good question, "Question"!
DeleteNobody has given any evidence that Ayla was murdered. Someone took Ayla out of that house!
signed: getrealpeople
Question, you are very correct that LE has deferred away from having to label this case.....which is why they termed it "foul play." The only fact, I repeat *fact* is, Ayla is missing, she is absent, and it was *not* by her own choice.
DeleteRemember we are describing foul play of a child....a child who is defenseless against even the slightest of actions, including being taken from their home. I believe foul play takes on a different meaning then between two adults in control of themselves. Just an opinion.
Delete@ question
DeleteWhat DO you call it?
I've struggled to properly phrase this aspect, too.
And now I * C * Y !
Below, S. has posted. It helped me refocus. I cherry-picked from the last lines of S.'s post...
I do believe that someone abducted Ayla, ..., ... someone
who knew them, and the situation with Ayla. That is based
on the facts that we have[n] now.
It's based on the known facts. Let's not forget to preface this... IMHO: It's not so commonly known that there were two abduction attempts involving Ayla and her abductor.
The first attempt would be called failed stranger abduction.
No, the abductor didn't know them. I know some of this individual's thoughts. If it wasn't going to be for one reason, it would have been for another. This day's reason - take the anchor baby and force them to look at what is happening in this town. I'm trying to tell you that this individual tried to take Ayla out from the fenced yard while Justin was outside near a house. I'm telling you that I could speak to her. I told her to twist around and relax her arm - let him have the jacket. She pulled away and fought to keep her jacket - because, as she said, 'It's MY jacket!' I yelled at her, 'SCREAM! SCREAM and cry!' She did. She pulled away and fell on her arm and head. There must have been only one rock in that yard, and that's what her head landed on. She broke her arm. Justin came up to them and picked Ayla up. The abductor was still trying to reach for Ayla, and then said, 'I was just trying to help her up.' Justin said, 'She must have slipped on a wet spot. Thanks, buddy, for helping her.' They talked some more. On the way back to the house, Justin turned to look at the lawn. There was no wet spot, and he mentally noted that, but shrugged it off. Ayla dropped her photograph, and the assailant picked it up and took it. That was November.
The second attempt would be called successful family acquaintance abduction due to the failed stranger abduction.
Justin may have felt harrassed by visions and reminders; he may think of it as acts of terrorism, but that's all they have to beat back the odds.
Same goes for Ronnie. If he would have waited just a little longer, he would have seen this person. He had to catch a bus.
posted by pogamen 5/15/12
While I'm at it, I'd like to make a point loud and clear. There was no FORCED entry. Never once has LE stated, there was no entry, just there was no *forced* entry.
ReplyDeleteThey said the discovery of blood was troubling, not the amount.
ReplyDeleteOther parts of that January 30th BDN story deserve mention in order to paint a more complete picture of LE's position at the time (over 3 months ago)
ReplyDelete"The article attributes “several law enforcement sources” in stating that Justin DiPietro, who is Ayla Reynolds’ father, fled a police interview when confronted with luminol-enhanced photos of his daughter’s blood spatters in the basement of his Waterville home. The WCVB report also claimed those same unnamed law enforcement sources said the blood, which McCausland said Sunday has been confirmed as Ayla’s, had been “cleaned up.” The sentence, “police do not believe Ayla is alive” was unattributed."
So the questionable statement that was unattributed was called out by McCausland but he did not refute the other statements attributed to LE sources - they found Ayla's blood, that had been cleaned up, and Justin fled the police station when shown the luminol photos of it.
"Asked Sunday by the Bangor Daily News whether investigators believe Ayla Reynolds is alive, he said only that “our first priority is finding Ayla” and would not answer follow-up questions on that subject."
So MSP police will not say they believe Ayla to be alive.
"McCausland’s statement over the weekend that the three adults who were in the DiPietro home on the night of Dec. 16 have not told police the whole truth was his strongest statement to date in the investigation, though McCausland maintains that no one has been ruled out as a suspect."
I would say that statement is still the strongest made to date, more than 3 months later.
"“State Police have said from the beginning of this case that we remain hopeful for Ayla Reynold’s safe return, but grow more concerned as time passes,” wrote McCausland in the press release. “Nothing has changed that belief.”"
I wonder how they feel now that more than 3 additional months have passed?
The article: http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/30/news/state/police-blast-boston-tv-station-for-irresponsible-inaccurate-ayla-reynolds-story-aired-monday/
Anon...
Delete"So the questionable statement that was unattributed was called out by McCausland but he did not refute the other statements attributed to LE sources - they found Ayla's blood, that had been cleaned up, and Justin fled the police station when shown the luminol photos of it."
My understnading is a little different. McCausland wouldn't detail everything he found objectionable in the report. He didn't want to repeat inaccurate statements....StatementS with an S, more than 1. The word everything, implys more than 1 thing. Doesn't it?
"Stephen McCausland, reached late Monday at his home, would not detail everything he found objectionable in the report because he said he didn’t want to repeat inaccurate statements."
“That is why I issued a release,” he said of a press release he emailed to reporters at 8:36 p.m. Monday. “I’ve never spoken those words and I’m not going to repeat them. I’m not going to pick apart something that is unattributed, irresponsible and inaccurate.”
The reporters used the word "fled" not LE. Nice dramatic flare for their story. Justin did not flee the station. He did however leave. Quite a while after seeing the pictures of the luminol. He then answered many other questions for quite a while. After doing so it was not minutes but an hour or more later that he left the station.
DeleteBy Barbara Goldberg
DeleteNEW YORK | Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:31pm EDT
(Reuters) - Anxiety over two cases of missing children in the news this week - New York's Etan Patz and Arizona's Isabel Mercedes Celis - masks an encouraging development in the search for U.S. boys and girls who disappear: More than 99 percent now return home alive.
The likelihood of finding an abducted child has sharply increased in recent years due to technological advances in the way searches are conducted and a greater awareness that fast action saves lives, said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.
That has boosted the recovery rate for missing children involved in the most dangerous cases in America to 97 percent in 2011 from 62 percent in 1990, according to the center's statistics. That rate is even higher when it includes all missing children, not just the highest-risk cases, which include abductions by a stranger or a family member wanted on a felony arrest warrant, Allen said.
"More than 99 percent of children reported missing in America in recent years have come home alive," Allen told Reuters.
S., you point out that McCausland said, "“That is why I issued a release,” he said of a press release he emailed to reporters at 8:36 p.m. Monday. “I’ve never spoken those words and I’m not going to repeat them. I’m not going to pick apart something that is unattributed, irresponsible and inaccurate.”
DeleteThe only thing in the article that was unattributed was the headline and assertion that police believe Ayla is dead. All of the other things were attributed to LE sourceS plural, since you are concerned about quantity. They might be anonymous sources but they were sources.
Anon 12 5 12
Delete"All of the other things were attributed to LE sourceS plural, since you are concerned about quantity. They might be anonymous sources but they were sources".
So says Michele McPhee. When citing anonymous sources, it may or may not be true.
I got the impression that S McClausland found more than one thing objectionable in the reprot.
No problem if your understanding is different than mine.
They are searching the river again http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/11/news/mid-maine/divers-return-to-kennebec-river-in-search-for-ayla-reynolds/
ReplyDeleteI have a very open mind about Ayla's case.
ReplyDeleteI do believe that Ayla was abducted, although I don't have a theory as to who abducted her.
There are so few legitiment facts known. I can't accept the "more than a cup of blood" was found by the father's bed, released by Jeff Hanson. I do not know in what context that was told to them, and the circumstances, if it was told to them. As far as any blodd of Ayla's I can only go by MSP's statement. That there was blood found in the home, and "some" of it belonged to Ayla. Further testing is being done and on-going. That does not tell me much.
There were 3 adults in the home that night, and I do not believe that all 3 were involved in some sort of murder plot, or cover up of one. I do not believe that all 3 would cover and lie about an accident that happened to Ayla, and then help dispose of her.
These 3 persons were interrogated, I'm sure multiple times, by multiple LE agencies. Interrogations are extremely tough, and done by investigators who are very apt at what they do.
I simply can not beleive that they went through this without one of them breaking down and telling what they know.
So if someone did something to Ayla it was 1 person and 1 person only. With Courtney & Justin together I find it hard to believe either of them did something to Ayla. I find it hard to believe that Elisha did something to Ayla, disposed of her, with the other 2 not hearing anything.
I dismiss anything to do with a LIP. I do not believe for 1 second that Justin got a LIP because he planned to murder his child. It is plain to me that Justin did care VERY much about Ayla. He did not have to take the responsibility of caring for her, yet he did. He could have returned her to Trista when she was released from rehab, or at any time, yet he did not. He did as Trista ask and moved in with his mother. Every thing he did tells me he loved Ayla very much, and was trying to take care of his daughter the best he could.
I don't know what happened in the last week, if anything, that prevented Justin from letting Ayla talk to Trista, or if it is even true. Most likely there was contention between Justin & Trista concerning the cusdtody of Ayla. Perhaps Trista's family was involved with this contention. I do believe there was contention because Trista did file papers for Parents Rights and Responsibilites. I also believe that Justin told Trista he was going to do so.
I do believe that someone abducted Ayla, if not Trista or the maternal family, then someone who knew them, and the situation with Ayla.
That is based on the facts that we haven now.
Yes, feel free to give yourself a big pat on the back for having such an open mind, and all those other amazing qualities.
DeleteAs well she should. :-D
DeleteOkay, and thanks.
DeleteReally?
DeleteThank you you're very kind. I don't feel as though I have any more amazing qualities than anyone else.
Your responses are always logical, kind, and humble. You speak of praying for Ayla, both families and the other babies. I doubt you ever pat yourself on the back. I feel you are a wonderful, caring person. :)
DeleteReally?,
DeleteThanks for your kind words. I think you are a wonderful, caring person as well.
Matter of fact, I think there are a LOT of very caring, wonderful people who post on thios blog.
Chewbakka, when r u posting a new update?
ReplyDeleteWTF does that even mean? Grow up.
ReplyDeleteYou people live n a fantasy land!
ReplyDeleteI can only assume you are referring to the people who are making up all of their own wild stories. They are quite fantastical. And I do agree with you these people do seem as though they live in a fantasy world. How else do they come up with so many out there stories.
DeleteHow can you say "that Justin cared about Ayla very much"
ReplyDeleteWhere have you ever seen the concern????
Please, Do tell!
Parents who love their kids hurt them all the time. You don't know how Justin feels.
DeleteCinderella, this is old news.
DeleteSo, you truly can state that justin didnt care for Ayla, right? Bc thats *natural* for parents of beautiful children such as Ayla...Ok, well,, for starters Ayla was put into Justin's care, and TAKEN AWAY FROM HER MOTHER. Does that tell you anything? Second, Ayla did not have to stay in her father's care, except for the fact that HE WANTED her there....does that tell you anything? Third of all, Justin spoke publicly about Ayla being his world...does that say anything to you? Fourthly, Justin left his life in Portland to give Ayla a better life in Waterville, does that tell you anything! Fifthly, ( is that a word? ;)) Justin wanted to start school to be able to financially support Ayla, does that tell you anything? Sixthly, Justin's family welcomed her into their life, without hesitation, does that tell you anything? Seventhly, Justin showed his fear of losing Ayla to Trista...does that show you anything? Eighthly, Justin showed his concern for Ayla in the future should he not be here, does that show you anything? Ninthly, Justin contacted an organization himself to help find Ayla, does that tell you anything? Tenthly, Justin is working towards securing a future for Ayla when she returns, does that tell you anything? Wait, you stopped paying attention after the first sentence didn't you....figures. You only care about what YOU think, not the truth. Fortunately, no matter what you do or what efforts you put forth to prove yourself, for YOUR good, you will lose. Unless you change your course bc ppl don't truly care about you. They truly will care if you can present the truth first though...Why not at least fight to speak the truth first! Please, beat LE to the punch if you have such knowledge.
DeleteBring Ayla home,
DeleteTo people who are able to reason, it is very clear how much Justin loved and cared about Ayla.
" Fifthly, ( is that a word? ;))"
Yep, it is, it's an adverb.
No, you grow up, Stinky!
ReplyDeleteOkay, "Michelle", I will try to be more mature like you, and all your other identities.
ReplyDeleteIt is clear in his interviews. And his efforts with the group he has chosen to work with, with which is spreading Ayla's name and face all across the US and Canada as we speak. Just because Justin does not choose to go on television and participate in a smear campaign against his child's mother and a war of words with her and her cohorts I do not see where that shows that he is not a caring and loving parent. Maybe just the opposite.
ReplyDeleteHAPPY MOTHER"S DAY to all of you Mom's.
ReplyDeleteJustin has not worked with LRC since January. Won't return their calls. Maybe he has hired a PI, that's what I would recommend
ReplyDeleteWhat is the source of your information about Justin not returning LRC's calls? If you can't back it up with a quote from them, then it is just rumor.
DeleteGood point Bystander. Who say's LRC is calling Justin and he is not returning their calls? I would think it would simply be up to the parent of a missing child as to whether or not they want to call a recovery group. Not the other way around. I did not realize the group would call a parent. Seems to me that should be the parents choice. I do not think LRC would do that.
DeleteIt's not a rumour. Justin stopped returning LRC phone calls in Jan.
DeleteI do know that Justin was working with LRC.
DeleteI did read that he isn't any longer, as of the end of Jan.
I can't say for certain, but I beleive I read it on Jeff's website. I don't know of course if that is true or not.
Justin is however working with This Little Light Of Maine.
I understand they are doing a lot for the awareness of Ayla, and helping to get billboards up across the country.
@ Suz
ReplyDeleteJustin is working with a different group. He is happy with what they are getting done while at the same time understands that Trista is still working with LRC so that is just two groups working for Ayla so how is that a bad thing?
Trista has never worked with LRC she works with LostNMissing. What group is Justin working with since Jan? Also why did Justin and Phiebe skip Ayla's Birthday Party put on by LostNMissing?
DeleteWhat are they getting done? Nothing. That's why the child killer Justin is "happy"
DeleteSuz,
Delete"Also why did Justin and Phiebe skip Ayla's Birthday Party put on by LostNMissing?"
Suz, I think if you want an accurate answer as to why Phoebe and Justin didn't attend, you'd have to ask them.
If it were me, I wouldn't have wanted to attend a big public affair on my daughter or granddaughter's birthday if she was missing. I'd prefer something more personal and private.
We all handle things in different ways, though.
Justin and Phoebe have attended several other vigils.
Anonymous13.5.12, S. and Suz,
DeleteJustin is working with TLLOM.This group has been posting all over Maine. They are covering all bus stations train stations and air ports,sending posters and fliers, in the US and Canada.They have already gotten over 70 giant bill boards nation wide and more are to come. Business cards and fliers have been sent out to local and non local businesses.Posters have been put up state wide and national.
Justin, Phoebe, Courtney, Lance and Li didnt go to the Birthday vigil because,I would think as S. said,they wanted to do something personal and private.
I LOVE how people condemn someone for something because they would do it differently...that really holds no value in determining guilt...everyone reacts differently in public, and you are NOT them, so why do you believe if they act differently, speak differently, behave differently than you, that they are guilty? That is so unreasonable and ridiculous. You don't have evidence, so you are grasping for anything to prove Justin guilty including upholding your opinion over his. As if you are better because you would do something differently. News flash, there's more than one way to do something. If you even need to be reminded of that you are already losing credibility. Please, think about that. Thanks-
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