4.21.2012

Valid Questions...



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  1. Stupid is the key word when it comes to this "blog", and I use the term "blog" very loosely.

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  2. You are utterly rediculous if you think those two questions are , in the slightest, comparable! Wow. Trista going to visit the MAN who apparently had been taking care of another man's baby ( and I use that second word, " man" VERY LIGHTLY, has NO BEARING WHATSOVER on this case/ tragedy. However, asking " daddy, tell them where all my blood came from," has EVERYTHING to do with this case/ tragedy. You are unbelievable.

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    1. Selena Johnson4/22/12, 12:35 AM

      OMG! Like why wouldnt it like have something to do with it?

      The dude and his mother tried to BURN DOWN AN APARTMENT BUILDING WITH CHILDREN IN IT.
      (Did I write that slow enough or should I type slower yet?)
      Misty...have you like...OMG met Justin? Like...ummm...wow.
      Misty you shou skip back over to the site that has forbidden you to come here....Like OMG you are gonna get an all caps tongue lashing.

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    2. Of course they are comparable Misty. Justin answered where the blood (that has ACTUALLY been determined to be hers)came from. A cut on her heel. Trista however has NOT stated why going to visit prison daddy was more important than visiting her own child, the one, that according to her, was being "abused" by Justin. If she was so concerned with this supposed abuse why didnt she go visit Ayla, or at the very least call the police to run a wefare check?

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    3. Are you kidding me? Trista going to visit the "man" who was taking care of another man's baby? Are you forgetting that "man" is an arsonist who burned down a building with families living in it. Are you forgetting that "man" was raising Ayla because Justin was not told the Ayla was his. And you think that these choices have no bearing on this case? Those very choices show the character of all involved in this case. A mother who did not ever want Ayla's father involved in the first place because she wanted to live with the arsonist boyfriend. And was willing to have this boyfriend raise her child. And further more who knows how this boyfriend was involved after he went to jail and knew that Justin was now raising the child he had previously been calling his daughter. Who he had in fact named himself.
      And as far as blood it is 4 drops that has been confirmed to be Ayla's and Justin has answered to that.

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  3. Justice for Ayla: Justin has answered when and why Ayla was bleeding.

    He has said that she was walking barefoot on a hearth and that she had a cut on her heel/foot. It is in line with the amount of blood that was found to actually be Ayla's.

    What is NOT determined is whether the other "blood evidence" that lit up with luminol was actually blood and was actually Ayla's.

    Trista has not told us about her whereabouts the night Ayla went missing. How come that question has always been off limits? Who's the one hiding stuff?

    Where is Ayla? Who had reason to take her? Who didn't want Justin to have her? Who asked for Justin to sign over his parental rights? Whose sister told Justin that he needn't bother to come pick her up when Trista went into rehab? Whose family is incredibly dysfunctional (has had children taken by state, has arrests, drug and alchohol problems, and despite their dysfunctionality felt that Trista was more so and wouldn't allow Trista to stay with them in their homes...even after Ayla went missing?) Whose family, per Trista's texts to Justin in January, told her that her break down wasnt' their problem?

    None of that makes any sense. Let's keep the questioning in the direction it's going now. Maybe the half a million dollars will prove to have been a waste of money.

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    1. Please find Ayla4/22/12, 6:36 PM

      I am happy to know that there was a woodstove in the basement to keep them warm down there. Basements can be damp sometimes.
      we use to have our room at my inlaws in the basement and it was set up nice.
      I hope someone finds Ayla soon

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    2. Was it a wood stove? I thought Selena said there was a furnace in the basement
      Seem strange to have both

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    3. Michelle aka mumz44/23/12, 9:49 AM

      It isn't weird to have both, but a hearth is a pretty general term for a platform under a wood stove, fireplace, or even a furnace. It could be where a wood stove used to be, or where a non-working fireplace is. And it's not unusual for there to be a wood stove in the house along with a furnace. Wood stoves are often used as a primary heat source with a furnace for back-up. Are you from Maine? It's not strange at all to have both here.

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    4. I guess I must fall into that strange category. I have a furnace in the basement piped to heat the upstairs and a wood stove in the basement used to heat the basement and keep the floors upstairs warm. It sure saves on oil having both and if the power goes out we have the wood stove for heat. Wow strange

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    5. I know- it's wild how everything is made into more evidence when it's just nothing.

      It's an old house. Houses can have unique idiosyncracies. Maybe it used to be a fireplace. Maybe it was something the woodstove used to sit on. Maybe it was some other non descript architectural detail borne out of some random decision. Maybe we should send an architect there to scope it out and see if it's "weird". whatever it was, she cut her foot on it and it left a few small spots of blood. He apparently didn't clean it up. It matched her DNA.

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    6. Interesting that the only bit of information "Really?" got from that post above was the question about what type of surface Ayla scratched/cut her foot on. smh.

      ~Fl mom

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    7. I use the name "Really?" when I post. The comment above was not me. Several people I know have both a woodstove and an oil furnace in the basement. It's not weird. A lot of people put woodstoves in years ago when oil was starting to get too expensive. Many still use both. I don't know what the DiPietros have.

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  4. Just when you think a bog site has risen above the BS..

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  5. Selena Johnson4/21/12, 10:09 PM

    Very good question. You are spot on with your posts Obscure. Why indeed. I wonder if having Justin take AYLA helped in her relationship with burnboy.Maybe it didnt. Did she tell burnboy that AYLA was his? He had to have known that Trista had to have blood tests to confirm Justins paternity and the results. I wonder what time Jessica and Trista went to bed the evening that AYLA disappeared. I would guess pretty dang late if Trista needed a nap that early in the morning. Didnt she sleep through her phone ringing? She had to be shaken or nudged awake to answer the phone. You know what? Sometimes looking at this stuff... maybe she didnt take AYLA.Her sister Jessica showed more feelings for AYLA than she does or did.Then again...Jessica could give a shit now. She has disappeared off the planet.hmmmm why? Why go to the extent of getting a lawyer for a meeting she didnt have any business at and then disappear when AYLA needs her most? Why on earth did she point fingers at Justin the first and second day? I mean at that point,it was reported as a kidnapping. She should have been pleading to the kidnapper instead of blaming...Trisa too...Ronnie as well. They never did.NOT FROM THE GET GO.WHY?? If they didnt know anything about blood drops then, at that moment, why in hell were they blaming Justin for shit? It was as if they wanted the public to know that who ever took her had reason and that was the reason. In My Opinion Whats up with that?
    Have to mention...a few of the other blogs are restricting any visiting here , posting here, and mentioning this blog. KEEP EM UNDER CONTROL! They might start using their brains if they visit here. I find that funny as hell.
    What? Just sayin
    On one blog they act this way...on another blog they act that way...If they act differently everywhere they go, who is to know who they really are and what their motives really are? One site they say work with each other.The next site they are cheering on two vulgar females who just want a name for themselves.The next site they do exactly the oposite...wth? If that doesnt give people a clue as to their character...I dont know what does. I cant post crap on any of those sites. When I make a point, its deleted.If it has anything to do with valid questions, not posted. Why? Guess they dont want their "minions" thinking for themselves.
    Sorry for rambling again...how I roll. ;)

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    1. Last week, (after the info was released about Trista being en route to the prison with her fiance's father the morning Ayla was reported missing) someone stated 3 members of his family live in Winslow. Does anyone know if that's true?

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    2. I believe it is Ray' dad Robert, Ray's Brother Robert, and Ray's uncle Michael(who is on the sex offender list) that live in the Waterville/Winslow area.

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    3. Yes it is true. Her Fiance's father, mother and brother live in Winslow.

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    4. Selena Piffle4/22/12, 5:09 PM

      I thought lies was gonna look into that but shim is too busy reading other blogs

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    5. Selena Johnson4/22/12, 5:19 PM

      I believe they backed this up with links, but am not sure. I know at least one was.

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    6. Probably just another bizarre coincidence. Does anyone know if any of the Tudelas are felons or have any criminal history?

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    7. I would imgine being in the daycare and insurance business the Tudela's would have to be clear of felonies. Working with children requires a federal fingerprinting background check at least to work at a school it does. My husband had to pass it to be a janitor so I would assume you have to also pass the background check to provide child care

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    8. Selena Johnson4/23/12, 12:43 PM

      I dont like the thought of this scenario at all.

      Burnboy pissed of at Trista for lying to him and making a fool outta him.Justin being the father and AYLA being the victim of that hate.He is willing to burn an apartment building down with families in it for his mother.MOTIVE.

      MEANS: HIS messed up family in Winslow.If he is from that area to begin with he has "friends" there. There have been death treats.Could be connected. No one would even think about them.This scenario literally makes me ill.

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    9. The Tudela's are not only not felons and yes have had background checks but some are currently in the process of becoming law enforcement. :)

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    10. I love the "Burnboy" nickname...lol good one

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    11. Thanks, Anons... I actually assumed that to be the case. A stark contrast to the other family mentioned in this thread. Yet it's the Tudelas, with no criminal history whatsoever, that are being scrutinized.

      I agree Selena, scary. If you've been receiving threats, I hope you are reporting them. LE can track down ISPs if it's done on the internet.

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  6. Oh I guess my comment was a little too true for you to "approve,"huh? So sad.

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    1. Sick of rudeness4/22/12, 10:19 AM

      Funny, I see two posts from you above. Maybe you should be a little more patient? Since the blogger is a parent, one might assume s/he is caring for offspring, rather than not approving your amazing posts that contribute a vast wealth of information to the conversation. Oh wait, you were questioning his/her ability to parent while running this blog, while ignoring your own child(ren)--assuming you're a parent, that is--to hit refresh a number of times, and then post to whine about your posts not getting approved. See how nice it is to treat people like that? ASSume less, and be nice, eh?

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    2. Selena Johnson4/22/12, 3:53 PM

      Just because one is a parent doesnt mean their children are under the age of 18 and need supervision.Like everything else in some of these blogs...it is assumed and becomes "fact"

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  7. You know..I think you are trying to make a point..since you wrote. "More Stupid Photos".

    I think it is wrong to use pictures of Ayla in this way,...but some people just simply do not understand that. Frankly it angers me. Ayla is a missing child who's parents and family members, on BOTH sides, are hurting and dealing with the most horrible situation of their lives.
    To use photo's of their child to inflict hurt and pain with accusatory questions is unethical, and disrespectful to Ayla, in my opinion.
    I feel the same way about what was done to the pictures of Ayla when she was first visiting Justin. Some people used them to degrade and hurt Justin and the DiPietro family, including the AFA website. (sad)

    Think about this..How would this make Trista feel?...
    , Oh how horrible in this picture above of Trista & Ayla it looks like Trista is twisting Ayla's arm. Oooouch! Looks like a grimace on poor Ayla's small face. Ayla is hurting, and trying to get away, and there is Trista laughing about it.

    I actually feel bad about writng that, and I appologise if it hurts anyone. It's an example of the kind of stuff I read, and simply meant as an example.

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  8. Don't you read anywheres else besides that other blog? Seems your makings this more about them than ayla. I like it when you do original stuff. Grow a brain and stop copying everybody else. SMDH

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  9. The owner of this blog is crazy....that's all. Go about your crazy business.

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    1. MistyR...
      Do you know what's really funny? It's really funny when people give away their true intent without meaning to. If you thought this blog was authored by someone crazy, you wouldn't be here. No, don't argue, it would be in vain. That's irrefutable.

      If you really thought that, you wouldn't really be bothered by it. (and, noticing your comments you clearly are bothered by it.)

      I have to state the obvious here, but the blogger is not crazy, as evidenced by the thought provoking and well written posts. In addition, if you compare a few of the blogs, this blog is frequented by people that are much more well spoken and capable of carrying on conversations- even sometimes having respectful disagreements with each other that don't launch into personal attacks and hissy fits. (Sure there are exceptions and generally hissy fits here are always displayed by the opposing viewpoint proponents)

      What you would notice, Misty, if you took a moment to calm down and put down your Kool-aide...is that here there are reasonable questions being presented. You are so worked up that I have to assume that you've got a personal interest in this case. Many of us do not and are looking at this as concerned citizens who see an impending travesty of justice on several levels. Many of us are in a better position, outside of the situation, to recognize the changes in tactics by the Reynolds family; the inconsistencies in their words and statements; the outright hatred spewing of their blogger friends; and the minute discrepencies in the statements by LE.

      You can hate that if you like and call it crazy that someone chooses to see things as they are. Your calling it crazy doesn't make it so.

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  10. I think that can be said of all these blogs. Just saying.

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  11. Misty R-the same could be said of Tori, she is on her sites and fb page(and others)all day. So if you are saying this is true of Obscure than by default it is also true of Tori, and Grace and all the others.

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  12. Selena Johnson4/22/12, 12:45 PM

    S.

    There have been so many countless horrible things written and thrown at my family.It angers me as well,but in that anger a shell starts to form from looking at the type of people who write these things and use Ayla's image in this way.They want to hurt and inflict pain any way they can.They frolic in the thought that they are causing pain.Funny thing about it is that in their actions,they are showing the class and spirit from which they come.I believe if one where to look through and sort comments from both "sides", one would find that these jabs of hate are said with a very clear majority coming from one side. As you have pointed out, so many times, these actions come down on anyone who may believe and have faith that AYLA is alive.You are so right...it doesnt make sense.The sad thing about it is these people are pushing their opinions on others who would at any other time be keeping a watchful eye out for Miss AYLA Bell. Where did this start?
    It started the very first few days with the words of two young women,who should have been pleading to an abductor...not pointing fingers.After the spots of blood were found is when they should have been pointing fingers.When LE announced that it was foul play, that is when they should have been finger pointing. As I said before,TIMING IN ALL THESE EVENTS IS THE KEY. I cannot express that enough.
    Thank you S. for caring. For showing compassion where others dont. For standing up for "Innocent until proven guilty."
    This is the very reason I am so pleased that Obscure keeps this blog up.I couldnt be more grateful.

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    1. Thank you Selena,
      My heart goes out to you, Justin, and your family.
      I don't think I could deal with 1/10 of what your family has. As well as friends and TLLOM.
      I can understand differing opinions and perspectives, but what I don't understand is downright mean-ness and hatefulness. Most especially using a missing todler to promote such ugliness.
      You are correct, I am all for "innocent until proven guilty".
      Now I am off to see my brand-new twin grandbabies, give them some lovin.
      Please know Selena that Miss little Ayla Bell and her family are in my prayers.

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    2. Selena Johnson4/22/12, 5:23 PM

      Enjoy those grandbabies...

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    3. you know who it is4/24/12, 8:43 PM

      Derek Let's talk,,,,,,,

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  13. Seems to me / and Questions I have:

    1. The maternal side of the family wants to convince EVERYONE to BELIEVE that Ayla was murdered. Gone for good.
    2. Ayla's mother just 'happened' to be driving and 'unreachable' during the time Ayla was going to be found missing. Seems like a nice possible attempt at an alibi to me.
    3. Where is her sister? Seems she is pretty absent from things now. Wonder why?
    4. Why does it seem to be only a select few of Ayla's maternal family speaking out? Not much for familial support for Ayla's mother, huh?
    5. Why hasn't Trista completed a polygraph?
    6. Why has the site that supposedly 'sleuths' cases - STOPPED sleuthing the maternal side? There seems to be SO MUCH unconfirmed on the maternal side, - yet no one is sleuthing where the mother was, where the aunt was, or any other details that might possibly FIND AYLA if there was a parental/friend/familial abduction!
    7. Has Ayla's mother REALLY kicked her habit after such a short stint in rehab?
    8. Have the police talked with Ayla's mother's convicted felon boyfriend/baby-daddy?


    The list could go on and on. I'm sure we could come up with a loooooong list if we collectively started compiling questions for the maternal side of things. :)

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    1. Selena Johnson4/23/12, 12:47 PM

      Real good questions. :)

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    2. More Questions4/23/12, 4:01 PM

      9. Why has Trista's story not stayed consistent?
      10. Why has Trista out right lied to the public when saying she had not spoken with Justin for instance. When later she herself states she had been in communication with him all along.
      11. Why does Trista claim doctors and DHHS suspected abuse when clearly they did not or it would have been reported to the state.
      12. If Trista suspected abuse why did she not visit Ayla or do more to try to go and get her from Justin?
      13. And yes why would a mother be so willing to give up on her child being alive? And try to convince a public to believe the same? That is the very resource you need looking for your child.

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  14. No ones falling for your BS Jamie! Nice try...I think I hear sirens...they're getting closer...

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    1. Why would sirens be getting closer to me? Not sure who you think I am? I'm just a poster here - and I've been following this case since December when I heard about it. I don't post often - mainly only read online to follow this case. It just seems to me that this case is awfully one sided online - and I've realized that's because of the campaign the mother's side of the family launched painting a picture that doesn't SEEM to add up. It's full of holes and inconsistencies - and since I read about a lot of missing cases - this started standing out to me BIG time and really has me thinking that there is a VERY real possibility the maternal side of this family MIGHT BE behind Ayla going missing. All I'm doing is offering my opinion - and asking questions I'd like to see answered.

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    2. Michelle aka mumz44/23/12, 8:59 AM

      You're fine, Jamie. It's a tactic "they" like to use to intimidate and ridicule anyone who dares question the maternal side at all. I've been accused of being Phoebe, because I dared to question things said. It's quite curious why they are so intent on placing blame fully on Justin, and so against any scrutinizing of the maternal family. Interesting indeed.

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    3. BS
      Why do you think you hear sirens? Are you hiding something??

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    4. TRUTH:LE only confirmed some of the blood samples are Ayla’s4/23/12, 8:18 PM

      I love when i comment on the other blog and they accuse me of being Obscure. Love that

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  15. I'd like to know a lot more about Ray the fiance. I find it pretty interesting that he has relatives that live so close to Waterville. What about these relatives, what kind of people are they? They must know Trista.
    How often did he & Trista communicate, via phone and letter? How about e mails? Do prisoners have internet access? What all did Trista tell him about Ayla living with Justin? What kind of friends did this arsonist have? What would they be willing to do?

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    1. Michelle aka mumz44/23/12, 9:00 AM

      Very good questions, but be prepared to be attacked for asking.

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    2. Selena Johnson4/23/12, 12:51 PM

      I posted a thought on this above.We are following the darker side of possibilities with these scenarios. These people could very well be involved.They would have no problems hanging about and watching the house to find out what they needed.Plenty of motive here.

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    3. Selena Johnson4/23/12, 12:53 PM

      I think this needs to be a topic.

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  16. I just couldn't help but wonder why the maternal side didn 't seem to be investigated (like I've seen in many other cases) - but SO much focus on the father --- and then it hit me that the Mother's had just a couple of people - but determined people nonetheless - to keep everyone focused on this HAD TO BE a MURDER by Ayla's father. That seems so awful to me - and every time I hear something from them - especially the mother - it really seems to me that she is seemingly doing pretty darn well considering her 'baby girl' - is considered to have been murdered. She seems way too together - and that really leads me to think that she may very well know that her daughter is alive and well somewhere with someone taking good care of her.

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  17. Michelle aka mumz44/23/12, 2:46 PM

    I think many of the anti-Justin crowd needs to face the fact that Justin has a lot of supporters who believe him, and we're not just one or two family members or even close friends of his posing as different people in order to make our numbers seem higher. I've been accused of being Phoebe just because I spoke up in Justin's defense on another forum. It's ridiculous that people think the only ones who would stick up for him are those closest to him. I just wanted to throw that out there, because it is insinuated left & right that we are a small handful of people pretending to be a crowd. Get over yourselves!

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  18. Because her fiance's father was willing to let her ride along for the prison visit and with no vehicle, opportunities to see either fiance or Ayla were surely limited.

    Why did Justin make no effort to assist his daughter in seeing her mother while Ayla was in his care? He apparently had vehicle enough to travel back and forth to Portland with ease, and did so on several occasions. I find it interesting that he was unable to find a few extra minutes to take his daughter to see her mother whom she probably missed, since he was in town anyway.

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    1. How do you know Justin traveled back and forth to Portland on several occasions, or is that just hearsay?

      signed: getrealpeople

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    2. Well:

      1. Police have requested and received video of Justin and his companions at a conveniences store

      2. Justin and/or his very staunch supporters have admitted that Justin was there during at least one of the days prior to Ayla's disappearance to "finish moving out" of apartment shared with roommates.

      3. I believe the doctor/bone specialist that was treating Ayla for her broken arm was in Portland (Justin admits to attending at least one scheduled appointment for followup)

      The above would suggest that Justin had much more access to a vehicle and transpiration to travel than Trista, who was rustling up rides and dependent upon the schedules and convenience of others.

      Am I mistaken? If so I know I will be corrected.

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    3. tlcox - I made an observation once that it was strange to me that Trista was on a long car trip the morning Ayla went missing, since we've heard a lot about how she doesn't have a car and therefore can't get around easily. Someone commented to me that I was prejudiced that Trista doesn't drive (???) and informed me that she can and does get around as easily as anyone else. Friend of hers? No idea. I do believe that Justin picked Trista up in Portland once or twice to go to an appointment with Ayla, and one time Trista and 2 or 3 members of her family met them at one of Ayla's appointments.

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    4. @tlcox

      1 and 2 are the same one trip to Portland.

      3. "At least one scheduled appointment" Trista says Justin picked her up to go with him to the appointment. The second appointment, 3 members of her family were also there.

      "Rustling up rides and dependent upon the schedules and convenience of others"? You believe Justin abused Ayla. So you let your child be abused because you don't have a car?

      Your statements have no validity, and contradict everything you have said (here and on other sites).

      Well?

      signed: getrealpeople

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  19. MistyR. I sure hope you don't have kids. Because for you to know that this blogger is obsessed means you're following it all too. Which takes time.

    I for one can type really fast and have little trouble stringing together the moving parts of this case in short time. I imagine you do something in your spare time Misty? Read? books and/or Newspapers? Knit? Scrapbook? Garden? Cook? I think you're getting my point.

    If reading about ongoing cases and following the trends on the blogs/social networks is someone's hobby in their free time, so be it. Then they use their ability to interpret what they see and communicate their thoughts about it. Do you also have a problem with those that blog on political events? Fashion trends?

    Will you please then spend just a few minutes of your day posting little nasty grams to each and every fashion magazine writer or blogger, just in case they have children? I would like to know that you are using your special gift to it's fullest extent Misty.

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  20. So, it's Justin's fault Trista didn't see Ayla? Really! How did/does Trista do anything? How does she buy groceries for Ray, take Ray to the doctor, visit her friends, visit her fiance, etc.?

    They can help her out with the afore mentioned, but not with seeing her daughter. Who, by the way, is abusing Ayla, and won't even let her talk to Ayla, let alone see her.

    This is their granddaughter, niece, best friends daughter, that they love so much, but they can't be bothered with going to Waterville to make sure ayla is alright?

    Don't mean to be rude, but your comment is absurd!!!!

    signed: getrealpeople

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  21. It is not my opinion that it is any persons "fault" that Trista did not visit Ayla while she was in her daddy's care. It is simply my point that it does not make Trista a villian but rather, a young woman whose child is in another town and who has limited means to visit. And if Justin was concerned about Trista's lack of visits he certainly had it in his power to facilitate visitation more so than was apparently done.

    It was not a priority to Justin to concern himself with Trista's ability to visit so I am unclear why trista's visits or lack thereof are relevant.

    I also don' mean to be rude but people who take Trista to task for failure to visit when they know she has no vehicle and yet feel she may have somehow or other traveled to Waterville in the dead of night and carried out some ridiculous parental abduction are absurd.

    Where is Ayla?

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    1. Are you aware that Trista was on a 4 hour trip from Portland to Machiasport to visit her fiance in prison on the morning Ayla was reported missing? If you google map it, it is a 10 mile detour to stop in Waterville on the way. Maybe it IS just a very weird coincidence, but she could easily have been in Waterville early that morning.

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    2. @tlcox
      Why should Justin be concerned about Trista's lack of visits? If the shoe were on the other foot you would be saying different. If Trista wants to see her child, she would find a way.

      Why wouldn't her family or BFF give her a ride. And remember, Ayla was being abused. Her family spoke of the abuse, yet nobody would take Trista to see if Ayla was okay?

      It does not make Justin a villain for not taking Ayla to see her mother when she has the means to go see Ayla on her own.

      You really don't think "Trista's visits or lack thereof are relevant"? She, as Ayla's mother, wouldn't want to see her daughter? She wouldn't find a way to go see her daughter, especially since she has said she was concerned for her well-being. So why all the finger pointing by Trista and her family?

      signed: getrealpeople

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      Now that would just be rude and an inconvenience to ask your fiance's father (grandfather of your child) to make a 10 mile detour when your other child is missing!!!

      signed: getrealpeople

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