The Portland trip DID happen, but it was BEFORE Ayla went missing.
Stopping the lies, one at a time.
After I provided this confirmation, Jeff
Dee.. I’ll link it for you .. Initially, Amanda was the one who had told Trista about Justins’ trip to Portland (apparently Amanda found out through her relations). It was Trista who asked LE directly if the rumor was true and LE was “surprised that she knew” and relayed to Trista Justin’s reason for going into Portland that day as well as their insights as to why he may have taken that trip..
Trista has also spoken with Justin recently, and he told her the same thing (and I will paraphrase) “I thought you took Ayla”. So at the very least, Justin did not charge his story.
WHY DOES HE CONSTANTLY ADJUST FIRE?
No link...just your word.....because your confirming it did not happen...OK....let's see how that works for ya !
ReplyDeleteNo link necessary. Believe what's posted it not.
DeleteWhat's my motivation for lying? What's Jeff's motivation for lying?
THE TRUTH REMAINS.
Anonymous2/16/13, 12:50 PM
DeleteFunny MM, John, Jeff, Trista, or anyone else over at U4A can out something out with no link nothing more than someone's word and people follow like little lost puppies. To name a few, a cupful of blood, Pheobe telling Trista she had a gun in the house, Justin barricading himself in the bathroom that morning. If Obscure says they have confirmation then why must they provide a link? Double standards much?
Ha.
DeleteDouble standards isn't even an accurate word. This is at a step above that, if that's even possible.
Thank you to whomever provided the info. I appreciate it.
ReplyDeleteOh snap....for real?
ReplyDeleteSo...Jeff says:
“He told police he drove to Portland because he thought Trista had taken Ayla,” Hanson said.
Is Trista lying to Jeff or is LE lying to Trista?
Here's a thought. Maybe Justin told police he had thought about driving to to Trista's. Maybe he was talked out of it. Just thinking out loud here. Maybe that is what police told Trista. And per usual Jeff or Trista told the story to suit their purpose. Or maybe come to find out they will tell us "Trista was just confused"
DeleteAhhh,
DeleteSome things are starting to make a little more sense.
Seems to me there is some fishing going on.
Other scenarios of what LE offered Trista may not have included a trip to Portland for all we know. Looks like she or Jeff just picked the one they wanted to use.
DeleteAnswers4Ayla says:
February 14, 2013 at 5:59 am
hickorydicory, There were a few scenarios that LE offered Trista.. I do not know what they did to follow up on them.
Serious question...is Jeff setting Trista up?
ReplyDeleteIf she wasn't discovered missing until 8 am, how does Justin know he was gone before she went missing? Did he check on her when he got back home? If so, that narrows down the window of opportunity for someone to sneak in and take Ayla. Pretty risky too, considering that Justin could be coming home any minute.
ReplyDeleteIf the trip happened on the 17th, it happened after midnight. If he left at midnight, round trip would take about 2.5 hours right? Puts him home about 3ish, just in time for the loud noise and the dog barking, which clearly Justin didn't hear.
So when was this trip? If you can't confirm the time, chances are you are being lied to.
I think the point, which you are missing, is that when Justin left for Portland, Ayla was at home.
Deletewas she home when he got back?
DeleteWhich means she was left home with Elisha? Courtney?
DeleteI think he did take that trip after harm came to Ayla.
Who confirmed this? Justin?
DeleteOneannon, what you think is just as credible as what anyone else thinks.
DeleteAnd no, I have never spoken to him.
Early statement from Elisha said that Courtney went to JDs house the night before the 911 call and spent the night. Why would JD leave Courtney at his house and take a trip to Portland if Ayla was not missing yet? Also, since everyone likes to play with words... He says she was not "missing" yet, but not that she hadn't yet met her demise when he left.
DeleteTrista already knew about the trip. It happened on the 15th.
DeletePer the text message:
Date:2012.6.28.8.54.37
Justin: She was at my house and i
went there after she went to bed to get my bed you idiot people saw her friday
so good try
Seems like the trip was taken on Thursday (15) at night, because he says after Ayla went to bed. He was on surveillance, so he is telling the truth about where he was. He goes further in saying that people saw Ayla on Friday. We also know that is true because JEFF said he was told Ayla was not missing before December 16. The trip happened, Trista has known about it all along, and now for some reason she is making it seem like it happened at a later time than it actually did.
Justins trip was on the evening of the 14th into the morning of the 15th. He was seen at cumby farms at 2 AM on the 15th.
DeleteMy mistake.
DeleteEverything else holds true.
Remember JEFF said Ayla did not go missing before the 16th.
I'm sure you get the point, though, Jeff is distorting the facts.
I think there were two trips.
DeleteJustin's trip to Portland was on Thursday night Dec 15th. He was seen on tape at 2:00 am Friday morning the 16th. There was just the one trip. Obscure you were correct.
DeleteWrong, he was seen at 2:00 Thursday morning the 15th.
Deletehttp://portlanddailysun.me/index.php/newsx/local-news/458-source-website-allege-missing-toddlers-father-was-in-portland
Wrong. His trip was on Wednesday night and he was seen at 2:00am on the 15th, which was Thursday morning.
Deletehttp://portlanddailysun.me/index.php/newsx/local-news/458-source-website-allege-missing-toddlers-father-was-in-portland
I could not find one place where it listed the date as anythng other than 2 am on the morning of the 15th.
DeleteSorry, I got an error message. Please delete one, thanks!
DeleteYou may want to contact this newspaper because this is not correct. Contact LE. Check other sources. I don't have time to do it right now. But I am here to tell you YOU are wrong and this newspaper is wrong. Maybe they print a retraction idk. I will look tomorrow if you or someone does not figure it out. But make no mistake you are wrong. Night.
DeleteIf you are going to quote a news article make sure you read it first. The morning of the 5th is not confirmed by anyone other than J4A
DeleteReynolds' disappearance has become the focus of a criminal investigation and national media attention. The Portland Daily Sun learned that DiPietro was seen at a Cumberland Farms in Portland on Dec. 15, although police would not confirm these reports.
It really is a moot point; it doesn't matter if it was the 15 or the 16th. I know it was NOT the 17th.
DeleteExactly Looking.
DeleteACTUALLY Anonymous. I was right. The trip was on Thursday night, and he was seen on video Friday morning (2 am).
DeleteHow's that for "facts straight"?
And regardless of how ignorant the blog appears, I love that I have a loyal reader in you! ;)
Where yer link?
DeleteUp yer nose and around the corner.
DeleteDamn, I'm so mature.
The discussion of whether or not Justin drove 180 miles with Derek before calling 911 didn't originate here. The implication of that statement is that it was new information and referred to the morning of the 17th. It seems, though, that it's referring to the earlier trip. If someone said Justin hung around with Derek for 20 years before calling 911 - or Justin and Trista slept together before he called 911 - those things would also be true.
DeleteDamn Space..you summed that up perfectly.
DeleteTechnically, Justin did take a trip to Portland before he called 911, but it WAS NOT on the morning of December 17, 2011.
that's really hilarious anon - we're trying to figure out the truth from the bullshit - likely Obscure wouldn't even have started this blog if so many online people weren't screaming about the Waterville 3/4/5/7/10 whatever being premeditated baby killers for 25k - since I don't claim to know what happened to Ayla, this has been the only comfortable place for me to post
DeleteI really don't get the "jury pool tainting" - if there's ever a trial in this case, none of us here are going to be on the jury, nor will anyone we know. Same is true for the folks at U4A. You are familiar with the questioning a juror goes through before being assigned to a case?
Don't use big words like voir dire. Anon might get scared and run off!
Deleteanon - maybe you could use your superior intelligence to be clear in the first place - and then use it to realize any potential jury isn't going to have JohnP, MM, Tori, Ashley, or anyone that's received information (directly or indirectly) from blogs hearing the case
DeleteAre you also confirming that Derek took the trip with Justin?
ReplyDeleteTrying to connect the dots (I always hated that game, would prefer to just be shown the completed picture) - I speculate this is supposed to mean Justin and Derek went to Portland the night of the 16th - leaving Ayla with Elisha and Gabby. Justin may have connected with Courtney while there and suggested she follow him back to Waterville and spend the night. Sometime after he returned, Justin checked on Ayla at 10 pm and found her sleeping. They went to bed at whatever time, and in the morning she was gone.
ReplyDeleteA lot of what makes this case confusing is the release of conflicting information, much of which can be traced back to a person with bi-polar disorder. I feel Jeff should know better than to release Trista's word as gospel. I also feel MSP is being irresponsible if they truly meet with Trista by herself. Even if she didn't struggle with her perceptions, she should still be allowed a support person, as well as another set of ears, at such a meeting.
Obscure,
ReplyDeleteLike Space, I'm trying to connect the dots. Can you provide more detail/explanation about the Portland trip? When exactly did it happen and what was the purpose of the trip? Who, if anyone, went with Justin? Was it after 12:00 am on 12/17, or before?
Those details would help! Thanks!
I understand. I cannot confirm or offer anything further than what I have said.
DeleteThe Portland trip DID happen; however, the timing of the trip in relation to the events in this case has been distorted.
Ayla was at home when Justin left AND returned from Portland.
A simpler way to explain it---The trip and Ayla's disappearance are two separate events that have been linked together to serve ulterior motives.
"It was Trista who asked LE directly if the rumor was true and LE was “surprised that she knew” and relayed to Trista Justin’s reason for going into Portland that day as well as their insights as to why he may have taken that trip..
DeleteTrista has also spoken with Justin recently, and he told her the same thing (and I will paraphrase) “I thought you took Ayla”. So at the very least, Justin did not charge his story."
I'm assuming the 2nd part of the above (I thought you took Ayla) is not directly related to the first part - possible reason/s why Justin went to Portland.
I agree Obscure. It is clear the Portland trip was on Thurs night the 15th. Justin was taped at Cumberland Farms at 2:00 am Fri morning the 16th. Prob put him back home sometime Friday morning. Ayla went missing Friday night. He reported her missing Sat morning the 17th. People are trying to blend the two.
DeleteLE has said she was not missing before Dec 16.
@Space and Fan of Truth - crumble your paper and throw it away. That's what I did. On top of everything else, we have missing dots.
Delete@Obscure - Thanks for highlighting the impossibilities based on the small amount of evidence available. His story is backwards. Exactly who attempted to see who in Portland, and when? [feel free to correct my who/whom deficit]
There's more evidence to consider - blood on sheets.
posted by pogamen 2/16/2013
Okay...Jeff is verifying this but WTH?
ReplyDeleteDid Ayla go missing twice?
Jeff is verifying that the Portland trip was BEFORE Ayla went missing, then is explaining by saying that Justin thought that Trista had Ayla??? What the hell am I missing?
Jeff did NOT verify that the trip was before Ayla went missing.
DeleteWho is playing games Jeff??
ReplyDeleteJeff is implying *now* that Trista knew this rumored info for awhile.
Why then did he make it sound like a new revalation?
In the story that CBG, so willingly printed for him, Jeff says that investigators told Trista what happened that *morning*.
.CBG....What Hanson says investigators told Reynolds happened **that morning** conflicts with the version of events published by Harry. Before making that 911 call, DiPietro allegedly took a trip of approximately 160 miles, to Portland and back...
More Questions,
The way I understand it, .Jeff is not verifying that Justin didn't make the trip that day.
I think in his answer to Dee, he was implying that this info about a trip to Portland has been a "rumor" for awhile. That several people knew about that rumor.
I hear you, S. and Oneannon above. His answer to Dee's question still isn't making much sense to me.
DeleteRespectfully copied and pasted:
Dee says:
February 16, 2013 at 4:21 pm
So….. on another blog it’s posted that it’s been verified that Justin did NOT take a trip to Portland that night/morning before the 911 call. It’s said he did go to Portland just not at that time. The “if there’s no link it’s a lie” blogger will not supply proof of said claim.
The fact that Jeff said he'd link it, suggested to me that he was supplying proof of the claim. I guess I was wrong about that. Still, in his answer, I can't see where he ever addresses what Dee was talking about. He just expanded on the original story, without ever refuting the claim made here.
More questions,
Delete"I can't see where he ever addresses what Dee was talking about. He just expanded on the original story, without ever refuting the claim made here".
Correct, he did not answer her question.
So Justin left in the middle of the night the 17th after checking on Ayla at 10 PM Friday night. How did he know she was still at the residence? Did he check on her before and after the trip? Jeff is saying what he said in the first place except for adding Amanda tipped off Trista who then questioned police about the trip. Jeff is saying Justin made the trip before Ayla was REPORTED missing.
ReplyDeleteI think I missed something. I don't see where anyone has said what time Justin left? Even Jeff is saying that morning?
DeleteAnd what reason would he have to check on her before and after the trip? He would have no indication she would be kidnapped while he was gone, would he?
Jeff said LE told Trista, now he's saying Trista asked LE. This "trip" was discussed by Trista and Justin back in June, via text messages. It is not new information, it's not a new discussion. Tori even chimed in, if I remember correctly.
The Amanda Benner part is also added. He could have just said all of that from the beginning. Just like he could have said Derek was along for the ride.
DeleteWhat gives, why does he constantly add things when the blogosphere doesn't respond as he thinks they should?
I originally was told that Justin was in Portland the day before Ayla went missing getting his bed. I took that to mean the 16th but when the cumby's video came out, I figured my source meant the 15th, the day before she went missing versus the 16th the day before she was reported missing. The trip originally came to light when I started my blog and was the reason I started it because I knew he was in Portland without Ayla and people dismissed it.
DeleteIMO, if he did go to Portland with Derek after finding Ayla missing but before reporting her, it makes me think he is possibly innocent and someone else in the house was the perpetrator. It wasn't until he got back from the trip that he was told what really happened and called 911 or was encouraged to let the police handle it and called 911. If he thought Trista took Ayla likely police would not have been able to do anything since they had joint custody. At some point he would have been made aware of the truth though so is guilty by not telling what really happened.
Just a theory, hypothesis. I have no clue what happened to Ayla, even less now than I did 6 months ago
I'm confused, Obscure. Is your 100% confirmation that Justin didn't leave the house on Violette Ave. after Ayla was discovered missing or is it 100% confirmation that Justin didn't leave the house on Violette Ave. on the morning of December the 17th?
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