Question. Was "permission" to share this photo given after she found out permission was given by the paternal family to use age progression photos of Ayla?
You are truly a pos Obscure and a liar. How dare you state that Trista was responsible for or backed this photo. . . YOU SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN. You are causing drama and trying to devert attention from the criminal in this case. IT WON'T WORK. TRISTA HAS MORE LOYAL FOLLOWERS THAN EITHER YOU, JUSTINA, OR ANY OF THE OTHER SKIRTS THAT CLAIM TO CARE FOR AYLA. As far as Im concerned you are all murders!
Trista was and is not naive. She knew exactly what was happening on J4A and what was being posted. And yet she and Jeff both continued to support and communicate with Tori on the blog. If she supported the blog then she backed what was on it.
Trista is also pretty sure what happened to her baby and who did it. So are you all saying that the POS that support this site are okay with the garbage that is posted here about a grieving mother. . . what a sad state of affairs. . . At least its a small amount of supporters.
OBSCURE IS A "PIECE OF SHIT MOTHER" She has been investigated by DHHS on muliple occasions and has come close to losing her child. She is so much a hypocrite with too much time on her hands. Maybe she should be taking care of her own.
Trista doesn't even have the support of her own family and friends most of the time. That is why she was homeless. Her "loyal followers" are internet people who have no idea who she really is.
LOL @ Anon 8:51 AM. That's a funny comment. Nevermind you, there is no DHHS where I live. Also, I can tell you don't know anything about me, because you said "child". WRONG. Try again.
Thanks for the laugh. You know that what you're alleging against me REALLY happened to Trista? Not so funny now is it?
Some people might think Trista is not a vengeful person. This photo tells another story. What other lengths has Trista been willing to go to when she has been angry?
"I apologize Jeff and Trista if this photo offends you. As sad as it is, it really sums up Derek and Justin’s involvement with the life insurance policy and Justin’s intentions behind it."
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I sent it to Tori after I made it, months ago, and she posted it on J4A. She only said she created it to protect me. But as much as I appreciate that, I'm okay with admitting to it. I'm not proud of everything I've done, but I will own up to it, and deal with the consequences. I think I owe it to Ayla. I want to make things right with HER, and that's why I de-activated the page and started putting forth my energy and effort into positive works for her.
MW...thank you for your comments. I really respect your change in position. I was in the exact same boat...convinced Justin had harmed his daughter and impatient with opinions that differed from mine.
I still "lean" in the direction that Justin is involved, but only by a very narrow margin. Trista makes me uncomfortable.
It is just too easy to sit at a keyboard and accuse another of being a "baby killer." We don't even have a person-of-interest named in this case.
Dana B said it best. How the hell do you take back the words "baby killer?"
Trista did not create nor post this picture. It was not created recently. This contains justin and lance (?) Has justin conveyed that he does not like it and wants it removed? Who created this? What's wrong with that person?
What was wrong with me is that I had tunnel vision at the time, and was only thinking about making a point. I wish I had seen the bigger picture back then, but I hadn't. I hadn't paid attention to all of the discrepancies in the case. I have no idea what actually happened, but I don't think that Justin is a monster, and have come to find out that some of his supporters are actually pretty good people. Not all of them, but that can certainly be said of either side. I think all-in-all though, everyone just cares, and wants justice for Ayla.
There were a lot of old images that were made and used, sadly once something is on the internet, it is there forever. That doesn't mean that the originator of the images still feel that way, or even feel good about what they did in their past.
I saw this image when it was made, as far as I know, it was never "approved" by Trista. I'm not sure that Trista has ever seen the image or the numerous other images made by many people. - KJ
Trista didn't make this and didn't have anything to do with the DIPtheria page or pics.
This is what I was talking about when I said I was not always so neutral. I may never have supported Trista or Justin either one, but I did believe along with so many others that Justin was a monster. When Ayla first went missing I was convinced, as most people were, that Justin did it, and Ayla was dead. I wasn't thinking about the feelings of the family members, I was only thinking about making Justin pay in some way for killing Ayla and for trying to hide it. So Immune to DIPtheria was born. I deactivated that page long ago, but some of the images were archived on blogs. I really am sorry anyone who is innocent who was hurt by the pics, especially Ayla.
The way I feel now is that both parents know and were possibly involved, but to what extent and in what way, I don't know and won't make assumptions about anymore.
IMO you crossed the line with this. Trista is not a candidate for mother of the year but she doesn't deserve this venom. I originally saw this picture (which is in very bad taste) a long time ago on Tori's JFA blog but I don't know if that's where it originated. I don't think Trista had anything to do with the making of this picture or if she was even aware of it. She had nothing to do with the administration of the blog. I never saw her post on JFA, only a few times on AFA. There were multiple "helpers" on the JFA blog then, any one of them could have posted it. Ask Grace, she was around then.
I agree Dee, very poor taste on the part of the blog owner to bring back up a picture that had been buried for so long and then accuse Trista of creating it when she knew that was not the case. And the creator of the picture admits that Trista had nothing to do with it on this very page and yet the blog owner leaves this blatant disrespect posted. This entire post and all the comments should be deleted, if not the entire blog.
Lot's of things have been done in poor taste on this and other blogs by people this is not one of them. This picture and many like them were already out there to be seen. And I also disagree that Trista who has been working hand in with her stepfather from the start has had no knowledge or consent as to what he has done or said. So which is it? Has Trista been involved and helping out like everyone has said or was Jeff OZ behind the curtain manipulating and Trista has not been doing nothing along?
where has anyone accused Trista of creating that image? that was posted at a time that it seemed Trista was more involved in at least reading the blogs, as at times things were mentioned indicating as much - it is a wonder why Trista didn't object to (and have removed) images that disrespected Ayla that were created out of hate but over a year later, when it seems she has been less involved with the blogs, she has issue with reasonable, potentially useful, images created out of love by some of Ayla's most involved advocates
Trista and Jeff both supported and communicated with Tori to co run the J4A blog in the beginning and although this picture and others like it may not have been created there it was posted there and the very fact that they supported that blog and co ran it means they were not only aware of it but condoned it.
I posted the pic after it was sent to me, I posted a lot of pictures I am not proud of posting because they did nothing to help the investigation only attack the paternal side. Trista never once contacted me about any pictures posted on J4A or U4A, in fact she never contacted me directly for anything, the only time was regarding the "tweeter" account all other correspondence was through a third party, mostly Jeff who for the record, I still have the upmost respect for.
I know how you feel, I did the same thing. I think that the results of some images and what the image maker "thought" would be the result, have often been totally different things. I totally agree with your sentiment regarding Jeff, I respect him for all he tried to do to help Ayla. - KJ
MM says, "I wasn't thinking about the feelings of the family members, I was only thinking about making Justin pay in some way..."
Is this what you are doing with the age progression flyers, not thinking about the feelings of the family members to make trista pay? Maybe you need to think about you motives before you do these things. I do however have respect that you own up to making this pic and give your explanation as to why.
No, this time I fully considered the feelings of the family members, and came to the conclusion that if this could actually help to find Ayla, then that trumps hurting some feelings. It was different than the Immune To DIPtheria pics, because those pics were made under the belief that Ayla was murdered. Therefore the picture would not have had the potential benefit of helping to find her. I really do think that having various pictures out there of how she MIGHT look could help, if indeed she is out there waiting to be found.
Looks like Obscure is a little scared to own up to her mistake for posting this as if Trista made it or had anything to do with it getting posted. Says a lot about her doesn't it?????
This was posted on J4A. Jeff made it clear that he supported J4A and their efforts and then went so far as to combined his blog with theirs. Jeff made it very clear he spoke for Trista. Says a lot about them.
I never said or implied that Trista made that. She NEVER spoke out against it. She did however speak out against Tori creating a "Tweeter" account. So she knew what was going on.
I was going to refrain from commnenting on this particulr post, but I do have something I'd like to say.
I have no idea if Trista saw this particular image or not. I'm fairly sure though, that Trista has seen other images of Ayla that were used to demean and ridicule *Ayla's* family. Images of Ayla with hurtful innuendo writen on them. They were on many websites and blogs, not just one. Did Trista ask for any of them not to be used, or to be removed? Did Jeff ask on her behalf? They were totally disrespectful to Ayla.
Yes, they were disrespectful to Ayla, and I wish I had seen that then. If I had, I never would have even made some of them, let alone posted them. Not all of them were like this, some were geared more toward "speak up those who know the truth", and weren't too bad. But I admit that I went way overboard in many of them, trying to make a point. I did it at Ayla's expense, and I didn't even realize it. I'm truly sorry for that.
MW, I think we all have made mistakes and have done things that we regret. It's not always easy to admit that, and say we are sorry. Doing so is a sign of a humble person. Which is a good quality. I'm sure that all the people who love Ayla appreciate your apology.
Most people do things because they truly believe in what they are doing. Doesn't necessarily mean they are right. Some people do things because they are just mean at heart and something inside of them is broken. The ones who believe in what they are doing will recognize if they have chosen the wrong path and make it right. The ones who are broken will stand by their beliefs until the bitter end because they have nothing else. And to admit they are wrong is to admit to themselves that somewhere inside themselves they were doing this for all the wrong reasons. Thanks MW apology accepted.
CG,our running hypothesis currently is that JD was there, with Derek, sleeping off the night before, while Ayla was babysitting herself in front of the TV…she got into their drugs, and OD’d trying to crawl up next to her sleeping father for comfort, and they found her when they woke up…I have posted this theory several times since last year, as it makes the most sense, and it fits why the blood would be by the bed, and why no ER visit, and why they might see it as “Ayla’s” fault, an unintentional accident, like the arm break…scared of calling LE due to drugs…makes too much sense unfortunately… __________________
I don't think that Derek was even in Portland with Justin or one of the ones on the video surveillance from Cumberland Farms, I find it more likely it was one or more of the roommates in Portland and in my opinion, I don't think Kylie would allow Derek to stay the night or even be out all night partying while she is at home with their young child. I don't know Derek or his wife but I know I would not allow Anthony to go out all night partying and leave me home alone with a small child. JMO
Going along the same hypothesis as Emerald stated, if J was a low level dealer as speculated, then the two LIPs would make sense for laundering, CG. And Brianne could have been the middle dealer that supplied J & D with about $200 worth of drugs at a time. And even the LIPs start fitting into the hypothesis a little.
Question for you CG. If Ayla, God Forbid, did ingest, is it possible that a cough or sneeze produced the small spots at the stairs on her way to get comfort from her sleeping dad? The area around the bed is cleaned up but they do not see the spots in their haste to make everything look normal before anyone else finds out? ______________
John P...this is outrageous. Yes...you at least peppered your comment with the word "speculated" but your intent to destroy the DiPietros is obvious.
I really don't see where any of this is helping to locate Ayla dead or alive. A person can comment on these blogs until they are blue in the face, and LE is not going to be helped or hindered by any of it. For the most part he is probably thinking, how low down on the intelligence scale everyone appears to be that comments here. Not trying to insult anyone here, but topics are getting very petty don't ya think. It is like u4a thinking by talking the same topics over and over and over that they are keeping Aylas name out there.When all they mention Is Heidi, Derek, Justin, Elisha, Courtney, and Lance. Big deal it's not helping it hasn't in over a year. There is nothing anyone outside of the ones that know what happened can say to solve this. There is no way anyone on a blog is going to coax them to talk, or turn themselves in. It is a sit and wait game, and LE can wait longer than anyone.You also are not going to force LE to make an arrest or do anything until they are ready.
I understand what you're saying Dana - you and I and probably everyone else here are not going to find Ayla. LE knows far more about this case than we do, and while some people talk like they have this whole thing figured out, LE isn't even in a position to name a person/persons of interest. I don't, however, feel the discussion of the case and those surrounding it is useless. I believe the discussions, along with the online participation (or lack thereof) of those closest to the case, has informed LE's investigation and will continue to do so.
Dana...I never had any lofty thoughts that blogs would solve this complex case.
I am glad to have "met" many here, especially you. You raised some difficult questions that had me doing some serious soul-searching. Neither Trista nor Justin should be accused of harming Ayla...we simply don't know all the facts. Hopefully, LE has some of these facts...
I don't care for Obscure calling Trista "a piece of shit mother" here and I don't care for colorful scenarios on U4A that suggest Ayla may have been sexually abused. Neither assertion is fair, IMO.
I agree mckee they need to raise the standard here a few notches. I realize sometimes it is hard when the site is bashed so much. I am sure defending it gets tiring at times, and Obscure lashes out. The person is human.
"Trista met with Maine State Police last month and was shown photos of items found at the dam in Waterville. Trista could not identify the items as Ayla's.
"MSP also asked Trista not to release the details as it could jeopardize their case about the perpetrator(s), but was informed of unequivocal evidence that prompted the State Police's conclusion that Ayla is no longer alive." _____________________________________
Isn't is hopeful that the items could not be identified as belonging to Ayla? Didn't Jeff say in the leaked email that items found at the dam were a key factor in concluding Ayla died?
Honestly, I'm very confused. Photos of the items don't appear relevant.
I'm very sorry if MSP told Trista that "unequivocal evidence" pointed to Ayla's death, and there was zero chance she's alive. But I must consider the source here...Answers4Ayla.
And for those that feel I'm being unduly harsh and attacking a grieving mother...you could not be more wrong. Please remember...Jeff said it was the amount of blood and items found at the dam that led LE to conclude Ayla was no longer alive.
Again...I'm confused. Serious request...can someone please offer me some clarity?
Even more so, they used items at the dam to conclude Ayla is dead---then Trista could not identify the very items they used to come to that conclusion?
So they either never needed Trista to identify the items, or they did not base their conclusion on those items.
This is very confusing. You have to wonder how come they release statements that do more to muddy the waters than clear them. If this is the type of stuff they can offer the public by way of info, I say they should just be quiet.
Jeff states MSP asked Trista not to release details. Number one they then announce this on their web site. Number two Jeff wants the public to believe MSP are that stupid that they would entrust Trista with information that could jeopardize their case? I mean one has only to look at her track record. Could they really be that dumb? Or is something not right here?
Was that post recent? I agree that it's very confusing. If indeed it's true, then it is very, very sad. However, I have to wonder what type of evidence the MSP would have found that would be so unequivocal that it prompted them to conclude Ayla is no longer alive, but not prompt them to make an arrest or name a person of interest.
Also, the reward was offered by a group of private citizens. Does that mean the MSP shared the unequivocal evidence with that private group as well and urged them to withdraw/let the reward expire? It seems to me highly unlikely that the the MSP would be so loosely sharing such sensitive information if they are concerned about "jeopardizing their case against the perpetrator(s)".
Also, the statement made (on Aylareynolds.com)is pretty straightforward. If it was posted quite recently, why did it take so long for them to share that information?
mckeekitty, it could simply mean that the items were obviously baby/toddler items, and that they possibly belonged to Ayla while she was in the care of her father, Justin DiPietro. Maybe Trista did not recognize them because they were certain items that Ayla acquired after her change of residence from Trista's care. Or, the items were not Ayla's at all but law enforcement wanted to make absolutely sure by showing Trista pictures of the items. Or, it could be a totally different scenario altogether. I did not interpret Jeff's information on the aylareynolds.com to imply that law enforcement determined that Ayla is deceased based on the items found at the dam.
mckeekitty, sorry I missed the part about an e-mail stating that some items found at the dam contributed to le's conclusion that Ayla is deceased. Again, just because Trista did not identify the pictures of items as belonging to Ayla doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't Ayla's. They could have been items that were exclusive to Ayla's brief residence at the DiPietro household.
I understand from a comment Jeff made on U4A, he posted this info on aylareynolds.com today. 2/10 He had several things to say. I'm not repeating them.
Why do you think that anything would have been reported missing with Ayla, the Waterville 3 stopped talking from day one. They have said nothing except for lies that Ayla was abducted.
Jeff's statement contradicts itself. MSP doesn't want to jeopardize their case but as Fan above says they are supposedly willing to share their information with Trista, Jeff and whoever else that may entail. And also the group who offered the reward???
And according to Jeff's statement they have evidence to prove Ayla is gone to them but "there will never be real closure, even when the guilty are exposed."
So basically we are back to Jeff and Trista can say whatever they want to say. How can this be disputed? He has worded it so that he has a cushion by saying it isn't really going to ever go anywhere. But we have to trust his and Trista word that this is what they were told.
"I disagree that they could be items exclusive to the DiPietro household, or they would have been reported missing with her."
Why would items be reported missing if the person who reported Ayla missing didn't want the particular items found? If the items found in the river are indeed Ayla's, they were likely items intended for disposal--not to be found by law enforcement. Also, your suggestion that law enforcement would ask a mother of a missing child to identify pictures of tissue or bone fragments is really illogical.
"I asked the same question and got none on the J4A Facebook page, just that I was being inconsiderate to a grieving mother..."
Yes, you are certainly conducting yourself in an inconsiderate and rather classless manner, Ms. Giffords. I wonder how you would feel yourself if your baby was missing and presumed dead under similar circumstances, and individuals such as yourself were bashing you on the internet? It surprises me that Jeff or John P. continue to have anything at all to do with you. All I can think of is the saying, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." But, I guess that it's all about promoting your "new and improved" blog, huh? Even to the point of sucking up to your archenemy if it gives you the sorely needed attention that you so obviously crave. Shameful to say the least.
That last I heard from LE they said it was "highly unlikely" Ayla would be found alive. Unless I hear an announcement from their mouths that Ayla is dead I will not consider it an announcement. Because I highly doubt that LE releases announcements of deaths in cases like this in this manner.
As a parent if you are told by a doctor that your child has a rare disease and it is highly unlikely they will live do you on day one say okay? Do you on day one give up hope? Do you stop looking for answers? Or do most mothers fight to the bitter end against all odds until they hold their child's body in their arms? Never giving up hope. Even if the experts believe there possibly is none? Because what most mothers know and believe is that doctors can be wrong. Humans can be wrong. All humans.
Fan of truth and Common Sense, You stated, "I have to wonder what type of evidence the MSP would have found that would be so unequivocal that it prompted them to conclude Ayla is no longer alive, but not prompt them to make an arrest or name a person of interest."
I have wondered the very same thing. It is possible that the MSP have enough evidence to convince them that Ayla is deceased, but not enough evidence that tells them WHO to arrest, or call a person on interest. I also wonder if they know a time frame for when the crime took place. Not having enough evidence to prove "who" or "when" would certainly make it so the authorites would not want to rush to judgement and lose a case against the perpetrators of this crime. They could still have enough evidence to prove that Ayla is likely deceased. I'm sure they will not name, or charge anyone until they have the evidence needed to successfully prosecute. Just my thoughts on how it could be possible that they could know Ayla is deceased, yet not name a person of interest at the same time. - KJ
KJ- I see your point. I also agree with McKee that Anonymous at 10:24 pm makes a very good point as well. Right now I am back to not knowing what the hell to think about any of this. A little while ago, I actually read Trista's FB post, quoted by Obscure above, and while I still see a woman who is immature, self involved, and uneducated, AND I think she has been extremely dishonest throughout all this, I can understand Trista's frustration, and I don't doubt her love for Ayla (I'm not saying she's made wise choices. I'm just saying I believe she loves her daughter).
I don't think the MSP are idiots, and I don't think they would have conducted so many searches of the river/dam area without good reason. However, thinking/believing all that does not make me any more convinced that the DiPietro's murdered Ayla or that she died accidentally in their home.
I also still think there are too many holes and discrepancies in Trista's story and timelines.
MSP spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and as many man hours. We only got to see the river searches. What we did not get to see were all the thousands of tips and leads that they also followed up on as well. They covered all their bases as well they should. They were NOT only looking for a dead child. And they have assured us they still are doing so. Why do so if they hundred percent believe she is dead?
Seems to me Trista lied to Jeff in May, or Jeff lied in his email. They may have told her that they have reason to believe Ayla was deceased, but they did not share with her the reason back then.
If she couldn't identify the river items it is because they are unidentifiable (tissue? bone fragments?) or they had nothing to do with Ayla, but since testing wasn't completed until August, and they had apparently mentioned showing her photo's previously, I would suspect that they indeed do prove that Ayla is deceased. It is interesting to note that although Jeff states Trista could not identify them, he does not tell us that they aren't Ayla's.
I agree Grace that someone lied in regards to the E-mial, the day of the PC in May.
I don't however, believe that the photo's shown to Trista of the Dam items were of bone and/or tissue fragments. Trista wouldn't be expected to be able to bone and tissue fragments.
I believe that Trista said that MSP informed her that the items found in a river search were not related to Ayla. However MSP, nor Trista has commented on the items found at the Dam site. Trista has stated a few times since May, that she was awaiting MSP to show her pictures of the itmes from the Dam.
Grace, Perhaps because they had told her earlier on that they would show her the pictures of the itmes. She has complained about waiting to see the pictures since May.
I'm going to call B.S. on MSP's conclusion "Subsequently leading to the withdrawal of the $30,000 reward."
June 30, 2012 Ayla Reynolds' $30,000 reward expires tonight
BY BEN MCCANNA Morning Sentinel
WATERVILLE -- A $30,000 reward for information on the whereabouts of missing toddler Ayla Reynolds expires at midnight today.
On Dec. 26 -- nine days after Ayla was reported missing from her Violette Avenue home -- a group of local businesses and individuals posted the reward. Then, during a May 31 press conference, a spokesman for the group said he and the others decided to withdraw the money in a month.
"We were hoping the reward money would cause someone to come forward and put an end to this ordeal," attorney John Nale said
The reward was never stated to be only for a living Ayla! It was to prompt someone to come forward with the truth!
December 27, 2011 $30,000 reward offered in search for Ayla Reynolds
By Ben McCanna bmccanna@centralmaine.com Staff Writer
WATERVILLE -- A $30,000 reward has been offered for any information that leads investigators to 20-month-old Ayla Reynolds.
ONGOING: Investigators with Maine State Police were back at the Waterville home of 20-month-old Ayla Reynolds on Monday.
During a news conference Monday, Attorney John Nale announced the reward and made an appeal to anyone who knows where the missing toddler is.
"On behalf of the people of the greater Waterville area community, and through the generosity, support and kindness of a number of individuals and businesses in the area, I offer a $30,000 reward to the person or persons who will provide us with information leading to the location and return of this young girl," he said.
Jeff: Where does it say the reward was for only if it leads to a live Ayla?
They withdrew the reward because no one came forward. Or are you saying that the donors lied and are in on the "truth," too?
I have to say that while I rarely agree with Pennyauntie, I agree with the statement that unless it comes out of the mouths of MSP/LE, it's not a reliable source.
Even if the rest of your statement is true, when you include deceptive information it makes you seem not credible. It's also interesting that you included it as an afterthought, not even a complete sentence, as if you were looking to bolster your credibility and thought that the withdrawal would be supporting evidence of it.
Fail.
In the beginning of this case I believed EVERYTHING you posted on your site. Now I believe none of it.
Thank you, Ayla, for giving me the opportunity to become a better thinker. I promise to use what I've learned from this case in the future to hopefully call out b.s. in the world and make it a better place. I hope you are alive. I don't know. But I will continue to expose lies that will obfuscate finding the truth.
I really, really wish you would change the title of this blog post. It is truly disgusting and in really bad taste. When Ayla is found and the truth comes out about what happened to her in the Waterville home (accidental or not) you will truly feel bad for the awful, disgusting things you have said about a grieving mother. WILL YOU APOLOGIZE? I say you won't because a good person would never had posted this crap!
To Obscure. The titlte of this blog post says a lot about you. I have never come across a person as heartless and uncaring as you. I sure hope and pray that you don't have children. What a sad thought. Prays for Obscures children, prays that Obscrue never has to go through what Trista is going through. . . . If she does, I think I am going to start a blog!
Whatever truth comes out sadly the truth will still remain that Trista was not a good mother. Obscure is correct no matter what words were chosen to say it with. Trista has often made choices that were not in her children's best interest. And when she has made choices for her children they were often forced. Trista to this day lives with a rumored crack dealer/abuser putting her children at risk. Why because it is what Trista wants. Trista chose to bad mouth the father of her child. Do everything she could to call him a murderer. Talk about having to apologize when the truth comes out. Imagine having to explain that to your daughter someday. And Trista is the one who chooses to give up on her daughter. No matter how you slice it. You can blame LE say they say it is "highly unlikely" but in the end Trista is the one who gets to choose whether to give up hope and she did. Way before LE ever did.
You make some very good points, Anonymous. But I must take issue with this: "Trista to this day lives with a rumored crack dealer/abuser putting her children at risk. Why because it is what Trista wants."
I really want to be cautious with this. These are strong accusations. We've all seen rumors grow legs and eventually be passed off as "fact." Spooky shit, IMO.
And I also understand that everyone here has to sort what they believe is fact and what is not. As for me I don't post anything unless I know it is a fact. In this case I know it from several sources. And it is one of the rumors I wish was not true for Ray her new baby's sake.
I don't really care if people take issue with the title of this post.
NO MATTER WHAT happened, Trista is a piece of shit mother. Is that harsh? Yes, but it's true. Even if I later find out that a complete stranger abducted Ayla, the FACT will remain that she's a piece of shit mother. Seems as though she put men and drugs before her children, and I hate that type of woman. Absolutely HATE that. Strong word...HATE.
You laid on your back and made the kids, when do you plan on standing on your two feet to take care of them?
I hate the kind of woman who would speak such vile words of a woman who lost her baby. That just shows more of your true colors. I am amazed that you find this to be okay???? Were you brought up under a rock by a pack of wolves? Im sure that your parents are very proud of the caring adult you have become. . . If any of my children disrespected anyone in the way this blog post disrespects a grieving mother, I would be so ashamed. Glad you can sleep at night knowing your words not only disrespect a grieving mother, but a precious baby who loved that mother you are trashing. Disgust!
Who made Obscure God? What business is it of hers what kind of a mother Trista is. The facts are that Trista's baby is no longer with us. . the fact is that Justin was the parent who was supposed to be taking care of her and something happened to her while she was in HIS care. I would love to know all of the skeletons in Obscure's closet, I would love to put them all over the internet so that her children can see them some day. . . carma is a bitch, and Obscure you will get yours
What type of man do you Hate? Justin had 2 children with different women and didnt end up staying with either one of them.Was he standing on his two feet to take care of them? One is missing and the mom of the boy says he is not involved in his life.I don't think either parent was responsiable.
I would never try to guilt trip you because people like you don't feel guilt. . .its very sad. . . You must be a very lonely unhappy person Obscure and you deserve every bit of what your life brings. Just saying that I would never had wanted to have a child like you thats all. . . . I am glad that I raised my children better than your parents did. . . so sad. I can imagine you must have had a very bad childhood.
Huh? You do realize you don't even make sense now? Correct? You are willing to ask Trista? Or no? Based on Justin's answer? Well Justin has said several times he did not harm his daughter. He believes she is alive. Trista is the one who believes she is dead. And hides behind LE to protect herself saying but they say it is "highly unlikely" she will be found alive. Oh whoa is me. Poor Trista. So that makes it okay then to give up I guess. Only Trista had given up in week one. Before LE ever said anything. She never asked a kidnapper to return her daughter. Never plead with anyone to return her. Anyone else ever get the feeling Trista just wants Ayla declared dead so that this will all just go away?
Justin has answered Trista's questions. Probably most of them in the first weeks when they were speaking everyday and Trista informed Matt Lauer and the rest of America they were not. Amazing how she could lie with such a straight face. Although I will say in her second interview on 1/10/12 she didn't look as calm. But then she was being a little more honest in this interview too. It was almost as though she was so mixed up and trying so hard to be careful at this point to say the right thing. As the saying goes if you tell the truth you don't have to worry about knowing what your truth is. I don't think Trista remembers hers. JMO
Anyone else wonder why it took Jeff and Trista a month after meeting with LE to post this on their web site? It couldn't possibly have to do with being pissed off right? I mean they never do that right? Nothing they do on their pages is ever in retaliation right? They weren't pissed that things weren't going their way on this page and mad at Tori for starting a new site... I am sure they will have an answer as to why they waited a month. And then just happened to post it when so many "anons" over here were angry.
There is something very off with Jeff. I always say you can judge a person by the people they surround themselves with. And for what it is worth I will say it is "alleged", but Becca has a very shady track record herself and Jeff was married to her for many years. To me that says something about him right there.
I think I would remember what I was wearing the moment I heard that my child lost "more than a cupful" of blood. I certainly would know where I was. Hmmm...was I in a room in Augusta before the vigil or in a truck in Waterville after the vigil?
And here's another curiosity:
"Before the vigil ended, Reynolds and DiPietro stood together once more when Hanson asked them to pose for another photo. The crowd then dispersed."
Why in the world would Jeff ask Justin and Trista to pose together for a photo-opp?
For the record; I am not suggesting that MSP didn't meet with Trista, Becky & Jeff after the vigil. That's not my issue. First Jeff says that Trista was told about Ayla's cut foot *before the vigil* and he was not present. Then he says it was after the vigil, and he was present.
No biggie. It was a comment showing an inconsistency in something Jeff said in March verses what he said yesterday regarding the same incident. What doesn't matter really, is his inconsistency.
S's post illustrated the change to crucial details regarding how the the "cupful" became known to Trista, Becca, and Jeff by LE...a story evenutally leaked to the blogosphere. I was stunned to see S's post "removed", and relieved to learn it was done so in error. PHEW!
I, too, wish there was a way to restore it. I would volunteer to try to patch it back together, but it isn't/wasn't my post to reconstruct.
It was a damn good post. Glad I caught it before it accidently vanished.
@S. - I feel like inserting some of that old time religion into this topic. Hope this gets published and is helpful. I just read a yahoo article by Carol G? I feel like being all sorts of helpful and wonder why I wasn't specifically helpful before this.
Jeff's statements are not mutually exclusive. Trista met with LE before and after the vigil. She was wired.
>>> Pogamen, you get no cred for that. There are so many people who already know about Trista wearing a wire at the vigil that it's almost common knowledge. Thanks for playing. <<<
Public sentiment. I hope this is an individual effort and not orchestrated by LE to sway/influence/inflame a larger public segment with fraudulent information. The two bloggers, CGB and The Stir, are not equal (to U4A, J4A, or JSTL) in viewer value. Both blogs are served up alongside Google and Yahoo news stories - summary listings given equal weight with AP, Reuters, Fox, CNN, etc.
None of your blabber means anything now, its obvious that LE know that Ayla came to her demise in the Waterville home. Its obvious that the three that were there that night are not telling everything they know. . . Im not saying they murdered poor Ayla, but believe that there was probably an accident and they choose to not come forward and to let Trista suffer more than needed. . nothing could be worse then no knowing
Don't show your ignorance Obscure. . we all know they are going to make sure they have all their ducks in a row before they begin their arrests. . . . and we all know those are coming soon! Justice for "AYLA BELL REYNOLDS" I love those words and the time is getting close. . . . Justina you might not want to answer your door! YOU ARE GOING DOWN and you should. . . even if it was an accident, the fact that you have hidden behind your skirts and denied this beautiful baby the respect she sooooo deserved in my mind you should be put away forever. . . you better start taking care of your affairs
Anonymous 10:29 you are such a liar. Really lets all just grow up here and stop trying to start shit. . . even if it were true its really no ones business but Trista's. GROW UP
I started on it, and had all of my screenshots copied to a word doc with my commentary. My computer restarted for updates and I lost all of my progress. Never got around to recreating it, sorry.
Many people have kids with different fathers. Trista isn't the first and won't be the last. I know many woman who have children with different fathers, all are very good mothers. As pointed out by IsThisCharlieSheen, Justin himself has two known children with different woman. I say "known" because men who are sexually active cannot be totally sure how many children they have out there, where a woman is pretty darn sure how many she has. ;)
Didn't look to me that Trista's children were needing anything especially not a low life sperm doner who was so careless that he doesn't know where she is. Who does that? Who loses their child and "claims" she has been kidnapped but doesn't beg and plead until the day she comes home? If you can answer that I may be swayed "NOT"
Question. Was "permission" to share this photo given after she found out permission was given by the paternal family to use age progression photos of Ayla?
ReplyDeleteIt's still live online at U4A.
DeleteYou are truly a pos Obscure and a liar. How dare you state that Trista was responsible for or backed this photo. . . YOU SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN. You are causing drama and trying to devert attention from the criminal in this case. IT WON'T WORK. TRISTA HAS MORE LOYAL FOLLOWERS THAN EITHER YOU, JUSTINA, OR ANY OF THE OTHER SKIRTS THAT CLAIM TO CARE FOR AYLA. As far as Im concerned you are all murders!
DeleteDrama, anyone? ×points upward*
DeleteTrista was and is not naive. She knew exactly what was happening on J4A and what was being posted. And yet she and Jeff both continued to support and communicate with Tori on the blog. If she supported the blog then she backed what was on it.
DeleteTrista is also pretty sure what happened to her baby and who did it. So are you all saying that the POS that support this site are okay with the garbage that is posted here about a grieving mother. . . what a sad state of affairs. . . At least its a small amount of supporters.
DeleteOBSCURE IS A "PIECE OF SHIT MOTHER" She has been investigated by DHHS on muliple occasions and has come close to losing her child. She is so much a hypocrite with too much time on her hands. Maybe she should be taking care of her own.
DeleteTrista doesn't even have the support of her own family and friends most of the time. That is why she was homeless. Her "loyal followers" are internet people who have no idea who she really is.
DeleteLOL @ Anon 8:51 AM. That's a funny comment. Nevermind you, there is no DHHS where I live. Also, I can tell you don't know anything about me, because you said "child". WRONG. Try again.
DeleteThanks for the laugh. You know that what you're alleging against me REALLY happened to Trista? Not so funny now is it?
Some people might think Trista is not a vengeful person. This photo tells another story. What other lengths has Trista been willing to go to when she has been angry?
ReplyDeleteThis photo was created by Tori on U4A last year. See my reply below.
DeleteSo where was this posted?
ReplyDeleteThis image was created and posted by Tori on U4A
Delete"I apologize Jeff and Trista if this photo offends you. As sad as it is, it really sums up Derek and Justin’s involvement with the life insurance policy and Justin’s intentions behind it."
The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this article are those of the Author referenced herein, and are not to be deemed as fact unless otherwise published. Assumptions made from the content published in the articles of this Blog are not reflective of the position of any U.S. Government agency (i.e., Law Enforcement, Federal Agencies, etc.)..
Written by: Justice4Ayla on June 30, 2012.
I sent it to Tori after I made it, months ago, and she posted it on J4A. She only said she created it to protect me. But as much as I appreciate that, I'm okay with admitting to it. I'm not proud of everything I've done, but I will own up to it, and deal with the consequences. I think I owe it to Ayla. I want to make things right with HER, and that's why I de-activated the page and started putting forth my energy and effort into positive works for her.
DeleteSigned: MW
I should clarify: I don't know if Tori created it, but she posted it.
DeleteMW...thank you for your comments. I really respect your change in position. I was in the exact same boat...convinced Justin had harmed his daughter and impatient with opinions that differed from mine.
DeleteI still "lean" in the direction that Justin is involved, but only by a very narrow margin. Trista makes me uncomfortable.
It is just too easy to sit at a keyboard and accuse another of being a "baby killer." We don't even have a person-of-interest named in this case.
Dana B said it best. How the hell do you take back the words "baby killer?"
(I didn't see UsedToBeImmuneToDIPtheria 10:31 AM until after I posted due to comment moderation)
DeleteTrista did not create nor post this picture. It was not created recently. This contains justin and lance (?) Has justin conveyed that he does not like it and wants it removed?
ReplyDeleteWho created this? What's wrong with that person?
What was wrong with me is that I had tunnel vision at the time, and was only thinking about making a point. I wish I had seen the bigger picture back then, but I hadn't. I hadn't paid attention to all of the discrepancies in the case. I have no idea what actually happened, but I don't think that Justin is a monster, and have come to find out that some of his supporters are actually pretty good people. Not all of them, but that can certainly be said of either side. I think all-in-all though, everyone just cares, and wants justice for Ayla.
DeleteThere were a lot of old images that were made and used, sadly once something is on the internet, it is there forever. That doesn't mean that the originator of the images still feel that way, or even feel good about what they did in their past.
DeleteI saw this image when it was made, as far as I know, it was never "approved" by Trista. I'm not sure that Trista has ever seen the image or the numerous other images made by many people. - KJ
I see that that may be derek with justin.
ReplyDeleteTrista didn't make this and didn't have anything to do with the DIPtheria page or pics.
ReplyDeleteThis is what I was talking about when I said I was not always so neutral. I may never have supported Trista or Justin either one, but I did believe along with so many others that Justin was a monster. When Ayla first went missing I was convinced, as most people were, that Justin did it, and Ayla was dead. I wasn't thinking about the feelings of the family members, I was only thinking about making Justin pay in some way for killing Ayla and for trying to hide it. So Immune to DIPtheria was born. I deactivated that page long ago, but some of the images were archived on blogs. I really am sorry anyone who is innocent who was hurt by the pics, especially Ayla.
The way I feel now is that both parents know and were possibly involved, but to what extent and in what way, I don't know and won't make assumptions about anymore.
IMO you crossed the line with this. Trista is not a candidate for mother of the year but she doesn't deserve this venom. I originally saw this picture (which is in very bad taste) a long time ago on Tori's JFA blog but I don't know if that's where it originated. I don't think Trista had anything to do with the making of this picture or if she was even aware of it. She had nothing to do with the administration of the blog. I never saw her post on JFA, only a few times on AFA. There were multiple "helpers" on the JFA blog then, any one of them could have posted it. Ask Grace, she was around then.
ReplyDeleteI agree Dee, very poor taste on the part of the blog owner to bring back up a picture that had been buried for so long and then accuse Trista of creating it when she knew that was not the case. And the creator of the picture admits that Trista had nothing to do with it on this very page and yet the blog owner leaves this blatant disrespect posted. This entire post and all the comments should be deleted, if not the entire blog.
DeleteI disagree.
DeleteLot's of things have been done in poor taste on this and other blogs by people this is not one of them. This picture and many like them were already out there to be seen. And I also disagree that Trista who has been working hand in with her stepfather from the start has had no knowledge or consent as to what he has done or said. So which is it? Has Trista been involved and helping out like everyone has said or was Jeff OZ behind the curtain manipulating and Trista has not been doing nothing along?
where has anyone accused Trista of creating that image? that was posted at a time that it seemed Trista was more involved in at least reading the blogs, as at times things were mentioned indicating as much - it is a wonder why Trista didn't object to (and have removed) images that disrespected Ayla that were created out of hate but over a year later, when it seems she has been less involved with the blogs, she has issue with reasonable, potentially useful, images created out of love by some of Ayla's most involved advocates
DeleteGood point, Space. I've been wondering the same thing since I first read Trista's letter to Cynthia.
DeleteTrista and Jeff both supported and communicated with Tori to co run the J4A blog in the beginning and although this picture and others like it may not have been created there it was posted there and the very fact that they supported that blog and co ran it means they were not only aware of it but condoned it.
ReplyDeleteI posted the pic after it was sent to me, I posted a lot of pictures I am not proud of posting because they did nothing to help the investigation only attack the paternal side. Trista never once contacted me about any pictures posted on J4A or U4A, in fact she never contacted me directly for anything, the only time was regarding the "tweeter" account all other correspondence was through a third party, mostly Jeff who for the record, I still have the upmost respect for.
ReplyDeleteI know how you feel, I did the same thing. I think that the results of some images and what the image maker "thought" would be the result, have often been totally different things. I totally agree with your sentiment regarding Jeff, I respect him for all he tried to do to help Ayla. - KJ
DeleteMM says, "I wasn't thinking about the feelings of the family members, I was only thinking about making Justin pay in some way..."
ReplyDeleteIs this what you are doing with the age progression flyers, not thinking about the feelings of the family members to make trista pay?
Maybe you need to think about you motives before you do these things.
I do however have respect that you own up to making this pic and give your explanation as to why.
No, this time I fully considered the feelings of the family members, and came to the conclusion that if this could actually help to find Ayla, then that trumps hurting some feelings. It was different than the Immune To DIPtheria pics, because those pics were made under the belief that Ayla was murdered. Therefore the picture would not have had the potential benefit of helping to find her. I really do think that having various pictures out there of how she MIGHT look could help, if indeed she is out there waiting to be found.
DeleteI hope Jeff is well he got the he'll out of dodge for a reason.
ReplyDeleteI agree M4A
DeleteLooks like Obscure is a little scared to own up to her mistake for posting this as if Trista made it or had anything to do with it getting posted. Says a lot about her doesn't it?????
ReplyDeleteOf course Trista had something to do with it.
DeleteThis was posted on J4A. Jeff made it clear that he supported J4A and their efforts and then went so far as to combined his blog with theirs. Jeff made it very clear he spoke for Trista. Says a lot about them.
I never said or implied that Trista made that. She NEVER spoke out against it. She did however speak out against Tori creating a "Tweeter" account. So she knew what was going on.
DeleteOT,
ReplyDeleteTo those in the Northeast my thoughts are with you.
May you stay warm and safe.
Thank you for your post, S. We're in New England, and it was a doozy!
DeleteI'm always grateful to see an off-topic post of goodwill to others. Illustrates my definitation of "classy."
I never really thought of myself as being classy. Rather, something I need to work on at times.
DeleteThank you though.
I was going to refrain from commnenting on this particulr post, but I do have something I'd like to say.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea if Trista saw this particular image or not.
I'm fairly sure though, that Trista has seen other images of Ayla that were used to demean and ridicule *Ayla's* family. Images of Ayla with hurtful innuendo writen on them. They were on many websites and blogs, not just one.
Did Trista ask for any of them not to be used, or to be removed?
Did Jeff ask on her behalf?
They were totally disrespectful to Ayla.
As to Jeff, I'm not even going to go there today.
Yes, they were disrespectful to Ayla, and I wish I had seen that then. If I had, I never would have even made some of them, let alone posted them. Not all of them were like this, some were geared more toward "speak up those who know the truth", and weren't too bad. But I admit that I went way overboard in many of them, trying to make a point. I did it at Ayla's expense, and I didn't even realize it. I'm truly sorry for that.
DeleteMW
MW,
DeleteI think we all have made mistakes and have done things that we regret. It's not always easy to admit that, and say we are sorry.
Doing so is a sign of a humble person. Which is a good quality.
I'm sure that all the people who love Ayla appreciate your apology.
Most people do things because they truly believe in what they are doing. Doesn't necessarily mean they are right. Some people do things because they are just mean at heart and something inside of them is broken. The ones who believe in what they are doing will recognize if they have chosen the wrong path and make it right. The ones who are broken will stand by their beliefs until the bitter end because they have nothing else. And to admit they are wrong is to admit to themselves that somewhere inside themselves they were doing this for all the wrong reasons. Thanks MW apology accepted.
Delete"Most people do things because they truly believe in what they are doing. Doesn't necessarily mean they are right."
DeleteGreat point Anonymous. - KJ
Emerald says: February 9, 2013 at 11:00 am
ReplyDeleteCG,our running hypothesis currently is that JD was there, with Derek, sleeping off the night before, while Ayla was babysitting herself in front of the TV…she got into their drugs, and OD’d trying to crawl up next to her sleeping father for comfort, and they found her when they woke up…I have posted this theory several times since last year, as it makes the most sense, and it fits why the blood would be by the bed, and why no ER visit, and why they might see it as “Ayla’s” fault, an unintentional accident, like the arm break…scared of calling LE due to drugs…makes too much sense unfortunately…
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Emerald...you sure have a vivid imagination.
I don't think that Derek was even in Portland with Justin or one of the ones on the video surveillance from Cumberland Farms, I find it more likely it was one or more of the roommates in Portland and in my opinion, I don't think Kylie would allow Derek to stay the night or even be out all night partying while she is at home with their young child. I don't know Derek or his wife but I know I would not allow Anthony to go out all night partying and leave me home alone with a small child. JMO
DeleteWhat time of the night/ early morning did derek get his OUI ? Oh wait, that would not be all night I guess.
DeleteI am pretty sure the OUI happened before his son was born and how do we know Kylie wasn't with him in the car when he got it?
DeleteJohn P says: February 9, 2013 at 11:59 am
ReplyDeleteGoing along the same hypothesis as Emerald stated, if J was a low level dealer as speculated, then the two LIPs would make sense for laundering, CG. And Brianne could have been the middle dealer that supplied J & D with about $200 worth of drugs at a time. And even the LIPs start fitting into the hypothesis a little.
Question for you CG. If Ayla, God Forbid, did ingest, is it possible that a cough or sneeze produced the small spots at the stairs on her way to get comfort from her sleeping dad? The area around the bed is cleaned up but they do not see the spots in their haste to make everything look normal before anyone else finds out?
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John P...this is outrageous. Yes...you at least peppered your comment with the word "speculated" but your intent to destroy the DiPietros is obvious.
I really don't see where any of this is helping to locate Ayla dead or alive. A person can comment on these blogs until they are blue in the face, and LE is not going to be helped or hindered by any of it. For the most part he is probably thinking, how low down on the intelligence scale everyone appears to be that comments here. Not trying to insult anyone here, but topics are getting very petty don't ya think. It is like u4a thinking by talking the same topics over and over and over that they are keeping Aylas name out there.When all they mention Is Heidi, Derek, Justin, Elisha, Courtney, and Lance. Big deal it's not helping it hasn't in over a year. There is nothing anyone outside of the ones that know what happened can say to solve this. There is no way anyone on a blog is going to coax them to talk, or turn themselves in. It is a sit and wait game, and LE can wait longer than anyone.You also are not going to force LE to make an arrest or do anything until they are ready.
ReplyDeleteI understand what you're saying Dana - you and I and probably everyone else here are not going to find Ayla. LE knows far more about this case than we do, and while some people talk like they have this whole thing figured out, LE isn't even in a position to name a person/persons of interest. I don't, however, feel the discussion of the case and those surrounding it is useless. I believe the discussions, along with the online participation (or lack thereof) of those closest to the case, has informed LE's investigation and will continue to do so.
DeleteDana...I never had any lofty thoughts that blogs would solve this complex case.
DeleteI am glad to have "met" many here, especially you. You raised some difficult questions that had me doing some serious soul-searching. Neither Trista nor Justin should be accused of harming Ayla...we simply don't know all the facts. Hopefully, LE has some of these facts...
I don't care for Obscure calling Trista "a piece of shit mother" here and I don't care for colorful scenarios on U4A that suggest Ayla may have been sexually abused. Neither assertion is fair, IMO.
I agree mckee they need to raise the standard here a few notches. I realize sometimes it is hard when the site is bashed so much. I am sure defending it gets tiring at times, and Obscure lashes out. The person is human.
DeleteI would like to amend my comment above (3:53). Please disregard my interpretation of sexual abuse being suggested at U4A.
Deletewww.aylareynolds.com. Sad post.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what's worse...the john ps of the dead ayla world or the haters of the the john ps.....so distusting.
ReplyDeleteJeff writes:
ReplyDelete"Trista met with Maine State Police last month and was shown photos of items found at the dam in Waterville. Trista could not identify the items as Ayla's.
"MSP also asked Trista not to release the details as it could jeopardize their case about the perpetrator(s), but was informed of unequivocal evidence that prompted the State Police's conclusion that Ayla is no longer alive."
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Isn't is hopeful that the items could not be identified as belonging to Ayla? Didn't Jeff say in the leaked email that items found at the dam were a key factor in concluding Ayla died?
Honestly, I'm very confused. Photos of the items don't appear relevant.
I'm very sorry if MSP told Trista that "unequivocal evidence" pointed to Ayla's death, and there was zero chance she's alive. But I must consider the source here...Answers4Ayla.
And for those that feel I'm being unduly harsh and attacking a grieving mother...you could not be more wrong. Please remember...Jeff said it was the amount of blood and items found at the dam that led LE to conclude Ayla was no longer alive.
Again...I'm confused. Serious request...can someone please offer me some clarity?
I asked the same question and got none on the J4A Facebook page, just that I was being inconsiderate to a grieving mother...
DeleteEven more so, they used items at the dam to conclude Ayla is dead---then Trista could not identify the very items they used to come to that conclusion?
DeleteSo they either never needed Trista to identify the items, or they did not base their conclusion on those items.
This is very confusing. You have to wonder how come they release statements that do more to muddy the waters than clear them. If this is the type of stuff they can offer the public by way of info, I say they should just be quiet.
Jeff states MSP asked Trista not to release details.
DeleteNumber one they then announce this on their web site. Number two Jeff wants the public to believe MSP are that stupid that they would entrust Trista with information that could jeopardize their case? I mean one has only to look at her track record. Could they really be that dumb? Or is something not right here?
..."can someone please offer me some clarity"?
DeleteI think we all have the same questions.
I'm sorry, but I can't accept the word of Jeff.
Was that post recent? I agree that it's very confusing. If indeed it's true, then it is very, very sad. However, I have to wonder what type of evidence the MSP would have found that would be so unequivocal that it prompted them to conclude Ayla is no longer alive, but not prompt them to make an arrest or name a person of interest.
DeleteAlso, the reward was offered by a group of private citizens. Does that mean the MSP shared the unequivocal evidence with that private group as well and urged them to withdraw/let the reward expire? It seems to me highly unlikely that the the MSP would be so loosely sharing such sensitive information if they are concerned about "jeopardizing their case against the perpetrator(s)".
Also, the statement made (on Aylareynolds.com)is pretty straightforward. If it was posted quite recently, why did it take so long for them to share that information?
mckeekitty, it could simply mean that the items were obviously baby/toddler items, and that they possibly belonged to Ayla while she was in the care of her father, Justin DiPietro. Maybe Trista did not recognize them because they were certain items that Ayla acquired after her change of residence from Trista's care. Or, the items were not Ayla's at all but law enforcement wanted to make absolutely sure by showing Trista pictures of the items. Or, it could be a totally different scenario altogether. I did not interpret Jeff's information on the aylareynolds.com to imply that law enforcement determined that Ayla is deceased based on the items found at the dam.
Deletemckeekitty, sorry I missed the part about an e-mail stating that some items found at the dam contributed to le's conclusion that Ayla is deceased. Again, just because Trista did not identify the pictures of items as belonging to Ayla doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't Ayla's. They could have been items that were exclusive to Ayla's brief residence at the DiPietro household.
DeleteI disagree that they could be items exclusive to the DiPietro household, or they would have been reported missing with her.
DeleteI understand from a comment Jeff made on U4A, he posted this info on aylareynolds.com today. 2/10
DeleteHe had several things to say. I'm not repeating them.
From Urban Dictionary: rampid: A non-existent word that mentally challenged people often confuse with the word "rampant."
DeleteWhy do you think that anything would have been reported missing with Ayla, the Waterville 3 stopped talking from day one. They have said nothing except for lies that Ayla was abducted.
DeleteJeff's statement contradicts itself. MSP doesn't want to jeopardize their case but as Fan above says they are supposedly willing to share their information with Trista, Jeff and whoever else that may entail. And also the group who offered the reward???
DeleteAnd according to Jeff's statement they have evidence to prove Ayla is gone to them but "there will never be real closure, even when the guilty are exposed."
So basically we are back to Jeff and Trista can say whatever they want to say. How can this be disputed? He has worded it so that he has a cushion by saying it isn't really going to ever go anywhere. But we have to trust his and Trista word that this is what they were told.
"I disagree that they could be items exclusive to the DiPietro household, or they would have been reported missing with her."
DeleteWhy would items be reported missing if the person who reported Ayla missing didn't want the particular items found? If the items found in the river are indeed Ayla's, they were likely items intended for disposal--not to be found by law enforcement. Also, your suggestion that law enforcement would ask a mother of a missing child to identify pictures of tissue or bone fragments is really illogical.
"I asked the same question and got none on the J4A Facebook page, just that I was being inconsiderate to a grieving mother..."
DeleteYes, you are certainly conducting yourself in an inconsiderate and rather classless manner, Ms. Giffords. I wonder how you would feel yourself if your baby was missing and presumed dead under similar circumstances, and individuals such as yourself were bashing you on the internet? It surprises me that Jeff or John P. continue to have anything at all to do with you. All I can think of is the saying, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." But, I guess that it's all about promoting your "new and improved" blog, huh? Even to the point of sucking up to your archenemy if it gives you the sorely needed attention that you so obviously crave. Shameful to say the least.
That last I heard from LE they said it was "highly unlikely" Ayla would be found alive. Unless I hear an announcement from their mouths that Ayla is dead I will not consider it an announcement. Because I highly doubt that LE releases announcements of deaths in cases like this in this manner.
DeleteQuestion.
DeleteAs a parent if you are told by a doctor that your child has a rare disease and it is highly unlikely they will live do you on day one say okay? Do you on day one give up hope? Do you stop looking for answers? Or do most mothers fight to the bitter end against all odds until they hold their child's body in their arms? Never giving up hope. Even if the experts believe there possibly is none? Because what most mothers know and believe is that doctors can be wrong. Humans can be wrong. All humans.
Fan of truth and Common Sense, You stated, "I have to wonder what type of evidence the MSP would have found that would be so unequivocal that it prompted them to conclude Ayla is no longer alive, but not prompt them to make an arrest or name a person of interest."
DeleteI have wondered the very same thing. It is possible that the MSP have enough evidence to convince them that Ayla is deceased, but not enough evidence that tells them WHO to arrest, or call a person on interest. I also wonder if they know a time frame for when the crime took place. Not having enough evidence to prove "who" or "when" would certainly make it so the authorites would not want to rush to judgement and lose a case against the perpetrators of this crime. They could still have enough evidence to prove that Ayla is likely deceased. I'm sure they will not name, or charge anyone until they have the evidence needed to successfully prosecute. Just my thoughts on how it could be possible that they could know Ayla is deceased, yet not name a person of interest at the same time. - KJ
MSP did not say the evidence was unequivocal. Those are Jeff's words. LE is not commenting.
DeleteVERY GOOD POINT Anonymous 10:24!
DeleteKJ- I see your point. I also agree with McKee that Anonymous at 10:24 pm makes a very good point as well. Right now I am back to not knowing what the hell to think about any of this. A little while ago, I actually read Trista's FB post, quoted by Obscure above, and while I still see a woman who is immature, self involved, and uneducated, AND I think she has been extremely dishonest throughout all this, I can understand Trista's frustration, and I don't doubt her love for Ayla (I'm not saying she's made wise choices. I'm just saying I believe she loves her daughter).
DeleteI don't think the MSP are idiots, and I don't think they would have conducted so many searches of the river/dam area without good reason. However, thinking/believing all that does not make me any more convinced that the DiPietro's murdered Ayla or that she died accidentally in their home.
I also still think there are too many holes and discrepancies in Trista's story and timelines.
What any of that means? Beats the hell out of me.
Nothing makes any sense, and it's all very sad.
MSP spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and as many man hours. We only got to see the river searches. What we did not get to see were all the thousands of tips and leads that they also followed up on as well. They covered all their bases as well they should. They were NOT only looking for a dead child. And they have assured us they still are doing so. Why do so if they hundred percent believe she is dead?
DeleteAsk Trista liar.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me Trista lied to Jeff in May, or Jeff lied in his email. They may have told her that they have reason to believe Ayla was deceased, but they did not share with her the reason back then.
ReplyDeleteIf she couldn't identify the river items it is because they are unidentifiable (tissue? bone fragments?) or they had nothing to do with Ayla, but since testing wasn't completed until August, and they had apparently mentioned showing her photo's previously, I would suspect that they indeed do prove that Ayla is deceased. It is interesting to note that although Jeff states Trista could not identify them, he does not tell us that they aren't Ayla's.
McCausland said the items found in the river were not Ayla's at the last conference.
DeleteI agree Grace that someone lied in regards to the E-mial, the day of the PC in May.
DeleteI don't however, believe that the photo's shown to Trista of the Dam items were of bone and/or tissue fragments. Trista wouldn't be expected to be able to bone and tissue fragments.
Interesting point Grace. Maybe Trista couldn't identify the items because she wasn't familiar with them. Doesn't mean they weren't Ayla's though.
DeleteWhy would they show them to her if they had concluded that they didn't belong to Ayla?
Delete"McCausland said the items found in the river were not Ayla's at the last conference."
DeleteSorry, I do not remember this. Link, please?
I believe that Trista said that MSP informed her that the items found in a river search were not related to Ayla.
DeleteHowever MSP, nor Trista has commented on the items found at the Dam site. Trista has stated a few times since May, that she was awaiting MSP to show her pictures of the itmes from the Dam.
Grace,
DeletePerhaps because they had told her earlier on that they would show her the pictures of the itmes.
She has complained about waiting to see the pictures since May.
Good point S
DeleteI will if justin mans up and tells her what he did with her daughter.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to call B.S. on MSP's conclusion "Subsequently leading to the withdrawal of the $30,000 reward."
ReplyDeleteJune 30, 2012
Ayla Reynolds' $30,000 reward expires tonight
BY BEN MCCANNA Morning Sentinel
WATERVILLE -- A $30,000 reward for information on the whereabouts of missing toddler Ayla Reynolds expires at midnight today.
On Dec. 26 -- nine days after Ayla was reported missing from her Violette Avenue home -- a group of local businesses and individuals posted the reward. Then, during a May 31 press conference, a spokesman for the group said he and the others decided to withdraw the money in a month.
"We were hoping the reward money would cause someone to come forward and put an end to this ordeal," attorney John Nale said
The reward was never stated to be only for a living Ayla! It was to prompt someone to come forward with the truth!
December 27, 2011
$30,000 reward offered in search for Ayla Reynolds
By Ben McCanna bmccanna@centralmaine.com
Staff Writer
WATERVILLE -- A $30,000 reward has been offered for any information that leads investigators to 20-month-old Ayla Reynolds.
ONGOING: Investigators with Maine State Police were back at the Waterville home of 20-month-old Ayla Reynolds on Monday.
During a news conference Monday, Attorney John Nale announced the reward and made an appeal to anyone who knows where the missing toddler is.
"On behalf of the people of the greater Waterville area community, and through the generosity, support and kindness of a number of individuals and businesses in the area, I offer a $30,000 reward to the person or persons who will provide us with information leading to the location and return of this young girl," he said.
Jeff: Where does it say the reward was for only if it leads to a live Ayla?
They withdrew the reward because no one came forward. Or are you saying that the donors lied and are in on the "truth," too?
I have to say that while I rarely agree with Pennyauntie, I agree with the statement that unless it comes out of the mouths of MSP/LE, it's not a reliable source.
Even if the rest of your statement is true, when you include deceptive information it makes you seem not credible. It's also interesting that you included it as an afterthought, not even a complete sentence, as if you were looking to bolster your credibility and thought that the withdrawal would be supporting evidence of it.
Fail.
In the beginning of this case I believed EVERYTHING you posted on your site. Now I believe none of it.
Thank you, Ayla, for giving me the opportunity to become a better thinker. I promise to use what I've learned from this case in the future to hopefully call out b.s. in the world and make it a better place. I hope you are alive. I don't know. But I will continue to expose lies that will obfuscate finding the truth.
well-said, TT
DeleteI'll second that!
DeleteExcellent post, TT!
DeleteThank you, Space. I become more and more uneasy with the people involved with this case as each day goes by.
DeleteWelcome back TT.
DeleteThanks, S. & Kitty.
DeleteGrace, I never left, unless you mean you found my other posts to be drivel. :)
I really, really wish you would change the title of this blog post. It is truly disgusting and in really bad taste. When Ayla is found and the truth comes out about what happened to her in the Waterville home (accidental or not) you will truly feel bad for the awful, disgusting things you have said about a grieving mother. WILL YOU APOLOGIZE? I say you won't because a good person would never had posted this crap!
ReplyDeleteTo Obscure. The titlte of this blog post says a lot about you. I have never come across a person as heartless and uncaring as you. I sure hope and pray that you don't have children. What a sad thought. Prays for Obscures children, prays that Obscrue never has to go through what Trista is going through. . . . If she does, I think I am going to start a blog!
ReplyDeleteWhatever truth comes out sadly the truth will still remain that Trista was not a good mother. Obscure is correct no matter what words were chosen to say it with. Trista has often made choices that were not in her children's best interest. And when she has made choices for her children they were often forced. Trista to this day lives with a rumored crack dealer/abuser putting her children at risk. Why because it is what Trista wants. Trista chose to bad mouth the father of her child. Do everything she could to call him a murderer. Talk about having to apologize when the truth comes out. Imagine having to explain that to your daughter someday. And Trista is the one who chooses to give up on her daughter. No matter how you slice it. You can blame LE say they say it is "highly unlikely" but in the end Trista is the one who gets to choose whether to give up hope and she did. Way before LE ever did.
DeleteYou make some very good points, Anonymous. But I must take issue with this: "Trista to this day lives with a rumored crack dealer/abuser putting her children at risk. Why because it is what Trista wants."
DeleteI really want to be cautious with this. These are strong accusations. We've all seen rumors grow legs and eventually be passed off as "fact." Spooky shit, IMO.
I understand Mckee
DeleteAnd I also understand that everyone here has to sort what they believe is fact and what is not. As for me I don't post anything unless I know it is a fact. In this case I know it from several sources. And it is one of the rumors I wish was not true for Ray her new baby's sake.
I don't really care if people take issue with the title of this post.
DeleteNO MATTER WHAT happened, Trista is a piece of shit mother. Is that harsh? Yes, but it's true. Even if I later find out that a complete stranger abducted Ayla, the FACT will remain that she's a piece of shit mother. Seems as though she put men and drugs before her children, and I hate that type of woman. Absolutely HATE that. Strong word...HATE.
You laid on your back and made the kids, when do you plan on standing on your two feet to take care of them?
I hate the kind of woman who would speak such vile words of a woman who lost her baby. That just shows more of your true colors. I am amazed that you find this to be okay???? Were you brought up under a rock by a pack of wolves? Im sure that your parents are very proud of the caring adult you have become. . . If any of my children disrespected anyone in the way this blog post disrespects a grieving mother, I would be so ashamed. Glad you can sleep at night knowing your words not only disrespect a grieving mother, but a precious baby who loved that mother you are trashing. Disgust!
DeleteWho made Obscure God? What business is it of hers what kind of a mother Trista is. The facts are that Trista's baby is no longer with us. . the fact is that Justin was the parent who was supposed to be taking care of her and something happened to her while she was in HIS care. I would love to know all of the skeletons in Obscure's closet, I would love to put them all over the internet so that her children can see them some day. . . carma is a bitch, and Obscure you will get yours
DeleteWhat type of man do you Hate? Justin had 2 children with different women and didnt end up staying with either one of them.Was he standing on his two feet to take care of them? One is missing and the mom of the boy says he is not involved in his life.I don't think either parent was responsiable.
DeleteMother of the year just announced publicly via fb that there will be three children.
DeleteI would never try to guilt trip you because people like you don't feel guilt. . .its very sad. . . You must be a very lonely unhappy person Obscure and you deserve every bit of what your life brings. Just saying that I would never had wanted to have a child like you thats all. . . . I am glad that I raised my children better than your parents did. . . so sad. I can imagine you must have had a very bad childhood.
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ReplyDeleteHuh? You do realize you don't even make sense now? Correct? You are willing to ask Trista? Or no? Based on Justin's answer? Well Justin has said several times he did not harm his daughter. He believes she is alive. Trista is the one who believes she is dead. And hides behind LE to protect herself saying but they say it is "highly unlikely" she will be found alive. Oh whoa is me. Poor Trista. So that makes it okay then to give up I guess. Only Trista had given up in week one. Before LE ever said anything. She never asked a kidnapper to return her daughter. Never plead with anyone to return her. Anyone else ever get the feeling Trista just wants Ayla declared dead so that this will all just go away?
Justin has answered Trista's questions. Probably most of them in the first weeks when they were speaking everyday and Trista informed Matt Lauer and the rest of America they were not. Amazing how she could lie with such a straight face. Although I will say in her second interview on 1/10/12 she didn't look as calm. But then she was being a little more honest in this interview too. It was almost as though she was so mixed up and trying so hard to be careful at this point to say the right thing. As the saying goes if you tell the truth you don't have to worry about knowing what your truth is. I don't think Trista remembers hers. JMO
ReplyDeletehttp://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/ayla-reynolds-relative-posts-information-about-meeting-with-investigators_2013-02-11.html
ReplyDeleteAnyone else wonder why it took Jeff and Trista a month after meeting with LE to post this on their web site? It couldn't possibly have to do with being pissed off right? I mean they never do that right? Nothing they do on their pages is ever in retaliation right? They weren't pissed that things weren't going their way on this page and mad at Tori for starting a new site... I am sure they will have an answer as to why they waited a month. And then just happened to post it when so many "anons" over here were angry.
DeleteI don't know what it is, but there is an agenda.
DeleteShe is pregnant with number three. All different fathers.
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ReplyDeleteThere is something very off with Jeff. I always say you can judge a person by the people they surround themselves with. And for what it is worth I will say it is "alleged", but Becca has a very shady track record herself and Jeff was married to her for many years. To me that says something about him right there.
DeleteI think I would remember what I was wearing the moment I heard that my child lost "more than a cupful" of blood. I certainly would know where I was. Hmmm...was I in a room in Augusta before the vigil or in a truck in Waterville after the vigil?
DeleteAnd here's another curiosity:
"Before the vigil ended, Reynolds and DiPietro stood together once more when Hanson asked them to pose for another photo. The crowd then dispersed."
Why in the world would Jeff ask Justin and Trista to pose together for a photo-opp?
For the record;
DeleteI am not suggesting that MSP didn't meet with Trista, Becky & Jeff after the vigil. That's not my issue.
First Jeff says that Trista was told about Ayla's cut foot *before the vigil* and he was not present.
Then he says it was after the vigil, and he was present.
S. !!! I'm so sorry I accidentally deleted this! I meant to hit publish and accidentally hit delete.
DeleteIt was a long comment too, so please accept my apology!
Long day...
No problem Obscure, it doesn't matter anyway.
DeleteIt does matter. I wish there was a way to get it back.
DeleteNo biggie.
DeleteIt was a comment showing an inconsistency in something Jeff said in March verses what he said yesterday regarding the same incident.
What doesn't matter really, is his inconsistency.
I agree, Obscure. It does matter.
DeleteS's post illustrated the change to crucial details regarding how the the "cupful" became known to Trista, Becca, and Jeff by LE...a story evenutally leaked to the blogosphere. I was stunned to see S's post "removed", and relieved to learn it was done so in error. PHEW!
I, too, wish there was a way to restore it. I would volunteer to try to patch it back together, but it isn't/wasn't my post to reconstruct.
It was a damn good post. Glad I caught it before it accidently vanished.
Can someone summarize?
DeleteOh Selelna please share your post again. . . . I for one am on the edge of my seat
DeleteCut that shit out Anonymous above me.
Delete@S. - I feel like inserting some of that old time religion into this topic. Hope this gets published and is helpful. I just read a yahoo article by Carol G? I feel like being all sorts of helpful and wonder why I wasn't specifically helpful before this.
DeleteJeff's statements are not mutually exclusive. Trista met with LE before and after the vigil. She was wired.
posted by pogamen 2/13/2013
@Anonymous 2/14/13, 3:47 AM
DeletePerhaps a more appropriate response would be...
>>> Pogamen, you get no cred for that. There are so many people who already know about Trista wearing a wire at the vigil that it's almost common knowledge. Thanks for playing. <<<
Public sentiment. I hope this is an individual effort and not orchestrated by LE to sway/influence/inflame a larger public segment with fraudulent information. The two bloggers, CGB and The Stir, are not equal (to U4A, J4A, or JSTL) in viewer value. Both blogs are served up alongside Google and Yahoo news stories - summary listings given equal weight with AP, Reuters, Fox, CNN, etc.
Anonymous, I do know shit when I see it.
posted by pogamen 2/15/2013
None of your blabber means anything now, its obvious that LE know that Ayla came to her demise in the Waterville home. Its obvious that the three that were there that night are not telling everything they know. . . Im not saying they murdered poor Ayla, but believe that there was probably an accident and they choose to not come forward and to let Trista suffer more than needed. . nothing could be worse then no knowing
ReplyDeleteIF IT WAS OBVIOUS SOMEONE WOULD BE IN JAIL.
DeleteLE has no rock solid information, or someone would be in jail.
PERIOD (eww, Trista came to mind) point blank.
If LE knows that Ayla came to her demise they would have to officially declare her dead. And changed the status of the investigation.
DeleteWhat Jeff & Trista don't get is that them declaring Ayla dead is not their job it is the job of LE.
DeleteDon't show your ignorance Obscure. . we all know they are going to make sure they have all their ducks in a row before they begin their arrests. . . . and we all know those are coming soon! Justice for "AYLA BELL REYNOLDS" I love those words and the time is getting close. . . . Justina you might not want to answer your door! YOU ARE GOING DOWN and you should. . . even if it was an accident, the fact that you have hidden behind your skirts and denied this beautiful baby the respect she sooooo deserved in my mind you should be put away forever. . . you better start taking care of your affairs
DeleteA year and counting...
DeleteAnonymous 10:29 you are such a liar. Really lets all just grow up here and stop trying to start shit. . . even if it were true its really no ones business but Trista's. GROW UP
ReplyDeleteDid you ever make your Tim Crews post?
ReplyDeleteI started on it, and had all of my screenshots copied to a word doc with my commentary. My computer restarted for updates and I lost all of my progress. Never got around to recreating it, sorry.
DeleteJustin has at least 2... both different mothers. What is your point?
ReplyDeleteWhat is Trista doing in life besides having kids?
ReplyDeleteNo one has ever offered any proof of this rumor being true.
ReplyDeleteMany people have kids with different fathers. Trista isn't the first and won't be the last. I know many woman who have children with different fathers, all are very good mothers. As pointed out by IsThisCharlieSheen, Justin himself has two known children with different woman. I say "known" because men who are sexually active cannot be totally sure how many children they have out there, where a woman is pretty darn sure how many she has. ;)
ReplyDeleteI agree it doesn't necessarily matter who the daddies are---BUT---what positive steps are you taking in life to support the children you already have?
ReplyDelete10 kids, 10 different dads. Doesn't necessarily matter as long as YOU take care of them.
Didn't look to me that Trista's children were needing anything especially not a low life sperm doner who was so careless that he doesn't know where she is. Who does that? Who loses their child and "claims" she has been kidnapped but doesn't beg and plead until the day she comes home? If you can answer that I may be swayed "NOT"
ReplyDeleteTrista "lost" Ayla as well. She lost her daughter because drugs and booze were more important. And I haven't her heard beg or plead either.
ReplyDelete