I have had evolving theories throughout this case.
At this point, I'm willing to consider 2 possibilities that I really had not given much thought to previously:
1. Trista would have done ANYTHING--up to and including murder-- to keep Ayla away from Justin.
2. This is a stranger abduction; by that I don't necessarily mean a perfect stranger. Just that neither parent is involved.
As I said, I'm willing to consider these things, but I don't know how strongly that consideration is...
Just wanted to share my thoughts at the moment!
Oh, and before anyone dismisses the human trafficking angle, google Shaniya Davis. Her mother sold her to a man to repay a DRUG debt. DRUG debt. DRUG debt. DRUG debt.
Trista isn't that street savy...shes a dummy....
ReplyDelete@Anonymous 9:26
DeleteWhy do you want us to believe that?
Weird answer.
DeleteYou think so Charlie? Not me. I find it interesting. It is not the first time it has been posted either. Someone wants us to not think Trista is not smart enough. But why. Not smart enough for what? To mastermind a kidnapping? Now why and who thinks it is important enough to post that? Some people are much smarter than we give them credit for Charlie.
DeleteMight be true Anon, might be true. Also, and more likely, it is another person using grammar school antics to call someone else stupid. Seen it many times on this site alone, but sure... maybe it's a super secret spy trying to divert attention. Ahem.
DeleteMakes ya think about ole bob vear dont it?
ReplyDeleteTo keep Ayla away from Justin? No
ReplyDeleteTo have a reason to interact with Justin? Maybe
Hypocrit! So are your saying that there is a possibility that Justina sold Ayla to pay off a drug debt? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm That would be a possibility.
ReplyDeleteNot only is Trista the only drug addict but she is self proclaimed mentally imbalanced. And off her meds.
DeleteObscure...how do you know that?
Delete@Anonymous 10:01
DeleteI don't understand your question. Are you asking how Obscure knows Trista is the only drug addict? Obscure is going based on the facts we know. We know Trista is a confirmed addict. We do not know anyone else is. Of course we could be like U4A and make our own rules and if we don't know facts make them up. So then yes anyone else in the world I suppose COULD be a druggie you are right. But right now we have only confirmed Trista in this case. Does that answer your question. Sorry for jumping in here.
I have the same question as anon 2/1/13 10:01. When I said that the Tudelas and Dipietros were your buddies didnt you make this comment Obscure?
DeleteObscure1/19/13, 7:39 PM
Apparently, you are. Those are not my "buddies", I don't know any of them any better than I know you.
So how is possible now that you can say this "the FACT that Trista is the ONLY drug addict in this case." How do you know none of the others involved are into drugs or not? I thought you didn't know any of them?
Anon 9:27, it seems to me that you are assuming, like obscure, when all you know is Trista admitted to using in her texts. That does not mean that others were not drug users. You are both doing exactly what you yourself are accusing others of doing, assuming facts based on your own opinions.
There have actually been several people step forward stating they have either seen or done drugs with Justin, so I don't think this is an accurate assessment. Trista is, however, the only one confirmed to have owned up to taking drugs and seeking help for it. I don't believe at all that omission can be considered PROOF of not doing something.
Deleteanon parade
DeleteYou are missing the point. Obscure is sticking to the facts that are KNOWN. Obscure didn't say there are no other drug addicts in this case for a fact maybe there are but if so we don't know who they are.
I myself am basing my facts based on what I know...
Anon parade, ..and others,
DeleteFrom someone who is not a relative, or friend of Justin's.
This is what Tori had to say about Justin's drug use. According to her, Justin lived wth a relative of her's, (I believe) along with a few others who were all friends since grade school.
"I do know that they have all been friends since grade school and I also know that they are NOT drug users aside from the occassional joint"
Your kidding right?
DeleteObsure is making another FAILED attempt to make Trista the bad guy here. . . they both had/have drug issues and Trista is the only one who did something about it. . .Jusina on the otherhand has never sought treatment and more than likely his drug addiction is what caused Ayla to be missing. . . .there is now way someone could have walked into that house (as messy as it was) and make no noise while obducting Ayla. . .he did something to her it is as plain as day and le is just putting their case together to make damn sure this low life sob doesn't get away with it. Obscure you are a pos for not caring about what actually happened to this precious little girl. Why on earth do you think that anyone would think that your very weak theory of Trista killing her baby so that Justin couldn't have her makes sense????? I think you need to go back to the drawing board. . .can't wait to see what your next stupid blog post will be. . . you make me laugh
DeleteCan you DENY that Trista is a drug addict?
DeleteCan you PROVE that Justin is a drug addict?
We have TRISTA herself admitting to being a drug addict. We KNOW that she went to rehab. No one else in this case has admitted to drug use, sought treatment, etc. Therefore, the ONLY CONFIRMED drug addict is TRISTA. Everything else pertaining to anyone else is a RUMOR.
TRISTA SAYS SHE'S A DRUG ADDICT, why can't you accept that?
Anonymous 8:37
DeleteWere you in that house? Creepy..
Phoebe's house is quite clean. Much cleaner and safer than some of the run down motels and apartment buildings Trista has resided in.
DeleteCharlie who are the reputable people who have stepped forward who have stated they have done drugs with Justin do you remember? Or only remember that several people stepped forward. Just curious.
DeleteI for one absolutely accept that Trista has a history as a drug user, no questions there. I do not, however, firmly believe Justin does NOT have any history of the same, simply because he did not announce it on the Today Show. I think a few of the sharper tacks in here would get that. IN fact I am surprised that some are willing to believe he has no skeletons just because he hasn't owned up to any.
Delete@ Just Curious, I also never stated any of the people who came forward were reputable, but you know that already. You cannot state a FACT that Justin is NOT a drug users simply because he did not admit it. You CAN say he is not a CONFIRMED drug user, but that is not what was stated in this post. Several people have come onto this and other sites stating they have seen him do so, and while I am fully aware anyone could come on and say I am a user too, I know I'm not so I know what they say is not necessarily true about Justin either. Simply trying to get some to acknowledge that somebody else's silence does not make them innocent of all things, it simply makes them silent.
Anon 9:27 cont.2/2/13, 7:22 PM
DeleteYou may be right, but unfortunately it is not what Obscure said.
S.2/2/13, 9:55 PM
So marijuana is not a drug? In the statement you used to disprove Justins use of drugs it states he did do drugs? Help me out here??
Obscure2/3/13, 9:20 AM
TRISTA SAYS SHE'S A DRUG ADDICT, why can't you accept that? I can accept it, like Charlie Sheen, I saw the same stories where she admitted to using. What you can't accept is this. You stated for a fact that she "is the ONLY drug addict in this case." and there is no way to verify that. You then stated "No one else in this case has admitted to drug use, sought treatment, etc." but you seem to forget Lance and BV both admitted to it on other sites. Or are they no longer "in this case"? And Justins own roommates admitted to smoking "an occassional joint" with Justin according to S.'s comment above. Or do you believe like S. that weed is not a drug? And then there is the Justin Linnell claim, or is Selena now sure he did not go in and kidnap Ayla with the key he had to the house. Should I go on or just forget about the statements of fact that are not fact?
Thanks for the speech Charlie but you know you didn't answer my question.
DeleteWhoa anon parade,
DeleteClimb down off of your high horse. You are making assumptions that are not accurate.
Yes marijuana is a drug, and I do not condone the use of it.
Your comment shows how pwople read into things what they want to see.
The statement I provided was not to prove that Justin did not use drugs.
It was simply to show what someone who was not a family member or friend, might know about his drug use. That's *IF* you choose to believe what Tori has to say.
I personally have no idea if Justin used any kind of drugs or not. I've never stated he did, or didn't, or does.
I'd like to ask you, how is Lance, Bob V. or Justin L. involved in this case?
How is their drug use pertinent?
Just because Trista has been the only real person to admit she has a problem doesn't mean that there aren't others that have kept their mouths shut that don't have drug issues. . . . How can you even say that Trista is the only one????? You make no sense, Justin hasn't manned up since the beginning what would make you believe that he would man up and admit he has issues????? Trista is a very strong person for coming out and stating that yes, she did have issues, issues that she dealt with. . .
DeleteTrista didn't come out on purpose and admit she had issues. She was forced to do so by DHHS. She was given an ultimatum. And I for one hope for her children's sake she can stand by that. But as far as Trista being strong and coming out and admitting yes she did have issues that is BS. She did no such thing. That was done for her. She had no choice everyone already knew and it had been confirmed. She would have looked stupid if she had tried to deny it.
DeleteI don't personally believe that weed is not a drug but what I have observed is that many Americans do not consider it a drug anymore than they consider alcohol a drug. Just calling it like I see it.
Delete"Trista didn't come out on purpose and admit she had issues. She was forced to do so by DHHS. She was given an ultimatum. And I for one hope for her children's sake she can stand by that. But as far as Trista being strong and coming out and admitting yes she did have issues that is BS. She did no such thing. That was done for her. She had no choice everyone already knew and it had been confirmed. She would have looked stupid if she had tried to deny it."
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Exactly...and well penned, Anon. Trista's rehab stint is why Ayla was in Justin's care from jump-street. It is only natural to ask why this toddler was placed in her father's care and why didn't the mother have a fixed address?
Trista did not offer up her story...the press was all over it. All Trista could do was exercise some damage-control. I highly doubt Trista woke up on a mid-October morning and said to herself, "you know, I'm out of control. I need some help. My kids deserve better...I deserve better. Think I'm going to admit myself into rehab/detox and get my shit together."
And for those familiar with substance abuse treatment, 10-day rehab stints are a joke.
I was very clear I do not know the people personally. Anons are the same as people who post as "Just Curious"... may or may not be reputable but what they post is still read and considered, no?
DeleteThe only reason Trista went to rehab is it was the only way she could see Ray in prison. He has a very strict sentence, including drug rehab and not associating with known drunks or druggies. She didn't go because she wanted to, and she only stayed 10 days. We have seen no where that she sought further counseling or treatment, and she only recently started claiming she was "sober". I called the prison and asked what it would take to get on his visiting list. They said they would need to do a background check and a drug test before approval.
Deletehttp://www.journaltribune.com/articles/2010/09/01/news/doc4c77cdc10dbbb258608467.txt
Actually Charlie if you reread your posts you weren't very clear that you didn't know the people personally but that is beside the point. What you said in your first post exactly was this :
DeleteIsThisCharlieSheen2/2/13, 6:40 PM
There have actually been several people step forward stating they have either seen or done drugs with Justin, so I don't think this is an accurate assessment.
And my question was who were the reputable people that stepped forward. I am willing to forgo the reputable part as you have explained to me that you did not say that they were reputable. I am just curious where you saw this? Were there names or were they just anon's?
@ S.
DeleteI'd like to ask you (me), how is Lance, Bob V. or Justin L. involved in this case?
JL was accused multiple times on this very sie by a family of having a key to 29 Violette and could have easily gone in and kidnapped Ayla.
Lance, on multiple occassions has interjected himself into this case with verbal threats and wishes of death on those that spoke out negatively against his family. Besides that, it is my belief his act of violence against JL was because of what JL was saying on FB about the Dipietros.
BV, where do you want me to start when a pedophile hosts a teddy bear vigil for a missing 20 month old little girl?
I could the same for Jessica, who is also a drug user, Becca who according to some on this site is a drug user as well. I am not saying any of these people are angels, I was contradicting a statement of fact by Obscure that was not even close to being fact. If you are truely objective, you should understand this and not claim I am on a high horse. Just trying to hold everyone including Obscure to the same clarity.
Does anyone else here sometimes feel like banging their head against a wall? Just wondering...
DeleteLol Thanks Obscure.
DeleteJust was wondering why people don't get that you were not saying that there are no other drug users in this case for a fact. You were simply saying the only drug user known for a fact in this case is Trista. Sometimes I just find it interesting that people don't really seem to be listening to what they read.
anon parade,
DeleteI'm pretty well versed in all that has been said on this site.
I was asking how or why -YOU- felt that Lance, Bob V. or Justin L. are involved in this case.
I think you answered that.
I get the picture.
When considering drug use of all respective parties, I believe there is no difference between a daily must-have and an occasional like-to-have habit. Whether it's a rare joint or narcotics, it connects both individuals to the same social network for drug purchases. Exceptions might include individuals that grow their own pot in the closet and don't sell it (no illegal social network required), or the drug of choice is prescribed by a physician (legal social network).
DeleteSo, yes, I think anyone connected to the drug network, in or out of the DiPietro household (including roomies), is at minimum peripherally pertinent to possible circumstances involving Ayla's abduction. Moreover, Ayla's movements between Portland and Waterville should have caught the attention of law enforcement during their initial investigation. Both social networks are fairly accountable when tested by LE - one written and one oral.
@Anonymous2/1/13, 8:00 AM
There doesn't have to be a drug debt.
@Just Curious - I explained it in this same forum further along in the string. I recognized that anyone could say they did drugs with anyone - including with me. Posting as Anon does not provide an ability for anyone to confirm anything as fact. All posts admitting doing drugs with JD ere posted as Anon. Some were posted here, some in other Blogs, and some in person. I know none of them.
DeleteBTW, does it matter if Trista got sober so she could see her BF in jail? She did it, and is still doing it, and is a better person for it. It also doesn't matter why she ADMITTED she was a user at all... the point was that she was the only one who did, and as such she is the only CONFIRMED user in that group as far is this page is willing to recognize. Though I'd bet my last paycheck many people here could confirm otherwise if they so chose.
What?! The only tiny little bit of anything that Trista had going for her was that maybe she possibly did it for her kids. So yeah it matters if once again she only did it for herself. But I can't say I am surprised. And not surprised that you see nothing wrong in this.
DeleteAnd yes the point is that she is the only one confirmed who has done drugs.
Wrong not to be biased but they were and are most likely doing pills. Justin most definetely smokes pot too. but weed is half as bad. IMO Neither parent sold Ayla. neither parent is innocent of living a party life. Although if Justin was truly doing his CDL license then he would have had to be clean throughout the course to obtain it.
ReplyDelete"To keep Ayla away from Justin? No
ReplyDeleteTo have a reason to interact with Justin? Maybe"
I'm not so sure about that more questions. I think that was true at some point, then things changed. I don't think things were going the way she may have wanted them to.
One thing that stood out to me in an early interview (I think Nacy Grace) Trista said that Justin "just that week", told her that he was planning to file for custody of Ayla, and that's why she went to file her PR&R papers. She wanted to do it first.
With the facts that I know right now, I do think it's a very good possibility that Ayla was abducted.
If so, I think it had to be by someone who knew the family.
Right now I can't rule Trista out as being involved, or having some knowledge.
Oh yes, S, I remember Trista wanting to file first and that she didn't want Justin to know she was filing. It's my opinion that it had nothing to do with Ayla, but was more of an attempt to get Justin to play by Trista's rules. It's hard for me to explain my exact thoughts on this, but I think that Trista thought that she and Ayla were a package deal. She fought for Justin to be in Ayla's life, she says. We heard from Wordman that Trista's fondest wish was that the three of them would be a family. The problem was that Justin wasn't doing what Trista wanted. He told Trista he was filing for PR&R. That would cut Trista out of the picture. She couldn't have that, so she had to file first-she needed to be in control of that situation. I'm not sure what happened after that. Did someone wake her up to the reality that she had no chance in hell of getting custody? Did someone else realize this and act without Trista's knowledge? It's hard to say.
DeleteThe one thing that sticks with me, more than anything, is Trista's reaction to Justin at the Balloon Vigil. She was over the moon about Justin being there. This was after she had learned about Ayla's blood being found. We've been told that after that vigil, Trista learned that the blood was more than a cupful. The next day, Trista gave an interview where she said (paraphrased) "yeah, about the blood, I maybe wanted to lash out a little bit about that, but it was AMAZING to have Justin by my side!" Seriously? A cupful of Ayla's blood and she's wrapped up in how amazing it was that Justin was with her? Something just ain't right.
more questions,
DeleteThanks for sharing your thoughts. Actually our thoughts are somewhat similar.
perhaps a link to the article of when she says this would be great!
DeleteIt would be nice to have proof that Trista was this over the moon right after the blood was revealed. thanks :)
DeleteAmazing to have him by my side right after the balloon vigil that she learned about the so called cupful of blood.
http://www.wmur.com/Police-Some-Blood-In-Home-Belongs-To-Ayla-Reynolds/-/9858568/11836210/-/q5hce7/-/index.html
Perhaps I should put this on the previous thread, A Question For You, but I'll ask it here.
ReplyDeleteCan someone tell me exactly what a "small cut" is?
Just how much blood does a small cut produce?
Think about it!!
Exactly more then a small cut like a foot cut or a head wound or something! my son smacked his chin and for a tiny slit that needed two stitches he bled what looked like 4 cupfuls!
DeleteThats a stupid question Selena. . what is a small cut???? really. LE found enough of Ayla's blood in that home to be concerned that something happened to her. . .that is blatently obvious.
DeleteLE has never said that.
DeleteAnon. 2/4/13 3:29 p.m.
DeleteJust so that you know I am NOT Selena.
Not that I mind being referred to as Selena, but she might mind.
That reminds me to give a shout out to Selena.
I hope you have made a full recovery and are doing well.
.
maine4ayla
ReplyDeleteI don't know who the "they were most likely doing pills" was directed at but I can say I have heard Trista does do pills. And Justin I can tell you does not. And you are correct when doing his CDL licensing he would need to be clean of smoking and for future job hunting. And then once a job is obtained there are random drug testing requirements. And Justin was serious about building a stable life for Ayla, still is. Because unlike Trista Justin lives on the belief that Ayla WILL come home. For him as he puts it there is no other option.
I don't know who did what - but I really don't see the logic of a premeditated murder to get out of paying child support. If he was truly miserable about Ayla, or about dealing with Trista, he could have easily just given Ayla back to Trista. The easiest thing to do would be to pay the (presumably) small amount of money each week/month whatever. Consider where he comes from. Phoebe was a single mom, did her children's father(s) murder any of them to get out of paying?
ReplyDelete"Ayla is -- was -- a happy little girl; she enjoyed being with me and her mom," (Becca)Hanson said. "She always had a smile on her face, always. I'm trying hard not to think that (something bad) happened to her. Her nickname is Buggy -- that's my Buggy."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/police-seize-cars-from-violette-ave-home_2011-12-19.html
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"Ayla is---was--..."
Statement analysis anyone?
I'm no expert in statement analysis but my casual observance is that beyond some very obvious things it's pretty subjective and not as scientific as 'they'd' like you to believe. I mean, I can buy into some of the more obvious aspects of it, but it seems there's a lot of people who are willing to proclaim themselves experts to justify their own opinions and beliefs.
DeleteFor example, all things considered, I don't think Justin passed the polygraph. He didn't say he did and he tried way too hard to discount the whole process that he supposedly wanted to participate in when asked about it. (smoked it comment aside, the rest of the commentary on it was not that of someone who WANTED to take the test and WAS CLEAN AND CLEAR in the administration).
It certainly doesn't help the "science" when those who are promoting it are also promoting ideas that have nothing but their own words to back them up. For instance: Justin purchased the LIP on Ayla but didn't do the same for his other child. How does he know that fact that we don't? Or his claims that Trista was shown items from the river recently. - when called out on that claim he said right out straight that the MSP spokesperson said Trista was recently shown 'the items from the river' when there is no record of the MSP spokesperson (McCausland) saying such a thing. He's the freaking spokesperson, if he said it, wouldn't it be public?
I might give some amount of credit to statement analysis in a general sense but I'll never give it the time of day when it comes from anyone who has even the slightest appearance of having the slightest personal interest in the case they're analyzing. As objective as they'd like you to think it is, it doesn't take a genius to see that it's all very subjective in practical "application".
Sorry for the rambling, I hope I make sense on this issue that bugs me (now more than ever)
~Scout
re: Justin's statements about the polygraph - suppose you are close to a high profile crime - if you are guilty, do you mention anything about a polygraph to the press knowing it's going to become a talking point? If you are innocent, would you ask for a polygraph? If you are innocent and spoke the truth during the exam, but you are told you failed, how do you respond to the press?
Delete"I'm no expert in statement analysis but my casual observance is that beyond some very obvious things it's pretty subjective and not as scientific as 'they'd' like you to believe"
DeleteI agrre 100%
I am not taking Trista's side, but I looked at the photos, she didn't seem to be over the moon, on the contrary.
ReplyDeletetrue but what she says and does or what she looks like from one day to the next is questionable. I am not stating Trista is guilty but does she know more then she's saying hell yes!She obviously is upset but she should have been arrested for beating the shit out of Justin If she really believed he killed her.
Delete@maine4ayla - you say '...She obviously is upset but she should have been arrested for beating the shit out of Justin If she really believed he killed her.'
DeleteDo you mean to say that you believe that if Trista really believed Justin Killed Ayla, then Trista should beat the shit out of Justin and Trista should be arrested for beating him? (alternate outcome)
Or are you saying that Trista actually beat the shit out of Justin and didn't get arrested for it?
I've seen that statement in print months ago. If you happen back to this page at a later date, could you clarify that statement for me?
posted by pogamen 2/11/2013
Anon2/2/13, 9:14 AM You seem to know for a fact alot about Justin and his intentions. I just want to know if you are Selena, Heidi, Derek or another family member. You are stating alot of opinion as fact, so why should we believe you and not any other Anon?
ReplyDeleteI honestly do not get it. On your #1, what is this thought based on? To start, there were no previous attempts to keep Justin from Ayla (in fact she asked him to take her), we have not heard that she ever refused him a visit or did not allow him to take her when request/arranged. I don't get this angle at all. Killing Ayla for the soul purpose of getting her out of his care makes no sense either - for reasons I likely do not have to explain (but if a mother cares enough to remove a child because she either doesn't like the conditions OR wants the child to herself, killing said child would not be the option). This seems to have been pulled from thin air.
ReplyDeleteSort of off topic: I was discussing with TT Justin's statement in an article and have lost where it is posted. Can someone help me find the post we were commenting on. I have been busy helping my daughter and Grandchildren move to there new place and have not been on for the last couple days.
ReplyDeleteLooking,
DeleteUnder "A Question For You", about mid way down.
Has anyone else noticed that John and crew always say lets not discuss what they call the Pink Blog here but yet there latest sensitive subject is nothing but our conversation over here.
ReplyDeleteIt has been changing drastically over there! ever since how I felt on the Justice facebook page about the made up murder plots and them doing nothing in the way of looking for a live Ayla, they ream me out spit on me call me a bad person and then go and do exactly what I called them out on. only now they want to make up plots like the Tudelas scooping her up and hiding her away from the always abusive Justin and co. Trista can never be implicated in any theories over there what so ever! But congrats Obscure your blog has worked its way right back to the topic of their subjects over there. I am not against anyone anymore I'm about finding Ayla and bringing her home! I think both families may have lied to L.E Trista has lied to us so why wouldn't she lie to the cops
DeleteThat's because comments made me are very relavent, and for the most part sensible. :)
DeleteMaineforAyla, why do you spend so much time talking about others? Put your energy into what you claim to be doing.
DeleteA bird in a pile of shit who who keeps chirping gets eaten by the cat.
oops, that's suppose to be....comments made "here"
DeleteOhh sure im a drug addict, pretty sure my job has nothing to do with flipping burgers either! Ur the only one full of it! I asked Trista sure because last year there was already plans for her gathering. Im not 2 faced im about the facts I post where and when I want. I could care less about credit for anything. I care about the truth for Ayla!
Deletedana b says: February 2, 2013 at 8:05 pm
ReplyDeleteIt goes deeper than just Ayla, we live in a time when it is permitted to abort babies. Life doesn’t seem to matter to people today.
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Dana...I take great offense at this comment. I'll leave it at that...
mckee - While my opinion may be different than Dana's, I remember reading that he tragically lost a baby. I can respect his feelings about the issue.
DeleteSorry if I offended you it wasn't my intention.
DeleteIt goes deeper than just Ayla, we live in a time when it is permitted to abort babies. Life doesn’t seem to matter to people today. They see a child all bruised and say nothing it isn’t their concern. A dr in the beginning may report something like this, and then he gets sued because he was wrong, and someone thinks they can make a fast buck. What ever happened to Ayla was wrong and someone the guilty party should pay for that. If someone took her because she was abused and wanted to see she had a chance in life. That person too will pay if caught, I realize they thought they were doing the right thing. So what do we do to them? If and God please let this not be the case, but if her life was taken, what do we do to them. I know what most of us would like to do, but then we wouldn’t be that much different. What will the law do? Certainly not enough, there is not a punishment that would be harsh enough. Look everyday at every child to see if it is Ayla. When you get angry at a child for making to much noise, think of Ayla, put your arms around that child and love them as you would Ayla. Before any young woman thinks about doing drugs, think about Ayla. I know I have been angry at people here for the way that I have interpreted what they wrote. I was wrong with the way I interpreted it and the way I answered it. For this Ayla I am sorry, and I pray for your safe return every day. Lord help me to think before I respond from this point on. Remember Ayla always.
DeleteDana...my apologies. I should not have lashed out.
DeleteI don't like to see hot-button issues introduced on a blog. Religon, politics, immigration reform, gun control, etc.
One issue that has always bothered me is that Justin has been vilified by some for suggesting Trista have an abortion. These are private decisions...I hate seeing them trotted out on a blog for analysis.
Again...sorry to have jumped on you. Hope we're okay.
We are fine . I even lash out at times.
DeleteNot only could Justin have returned Ayla to Trista at any time, he didn't have to assume responsibility for Ayla at all.
ReplyDeleteHe was ask to give up his parental rights to Ayla, and he DECLINED. Had he agreed to do so, he would not have to pay child support for Ayla, no matter who had custody of her.
I don't think child support was an issue at all for Justin.
ReplyDeleteMaine for Ayla says ..."And Justin was serious about building a stable life for Ayla, still is. Because unlike Trista Justin lives on the belief that Ayla WILL come home. For him as he puts it there is no other option"
When did you chat with justin last??
anon parade
ReplyDeleteDid your mom officially name you anon parade on your birth certificate? Why should I believe anything you or anyone else here says? Pretty sure we are all anon's in the end. And we can choose to believe or not. So who are you? Wanna fess up? Because you are stating a lot of opinions here too.
Very good point S. Justin was asked several times by Trista and other family members to terminate his rights to Ayla. If he had been willing to do so he would not have had to continue to pay child support. He was not willing to do so.
ReplyDeleteoneannon: I think you are confused a little bit.... My statement was this...
ReplyDeleteWrong not to be biased but they were and are most likely doing pills. Justin most definetely smokes pot too. but weed is half as bad. IMO Neither parent sold Ayla. neither parent is innocent of living a party life. Although if Justin was truly doing his CDL license then he would have had to be clean throughout the course to obtain it.
I found this very intersting. Sorry if it has already been discussed here, but it is new to me...
ReplyDeletehttp://klaaskids.org/blog/?m=201201
It's my understanding that termination of parental rights does not terminate child support unless an adoption takes place as well. The state's position is that the rights of a child to be financially supported by two parents do not go away even if a parent gives up their rights to physical and legal custody sharing. It's simply not in the child's best interest to allow that.
ReplyDeleteJust think of all the deadbeats who would voluntarily terminate their parental rights if it got them out of paying child support. Of course, it can't be that simple, nor should it be.
~Scout
MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT, FOUNDER, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION (via telephone): "Well, I don`t believe that they really want to make that information public. As I understand it, they told Trista about this information regarding the blood and that it was more blood that would be produced by a cut and she went out and made that information public via a web page. And I think they were caught short on that, quite frankly, and I`m surprised that they would be given the fact that Trista seems to love sharing absolutely every piece of information that she has."
ReplyDeletehttp://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1202/01/ng.01.html
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Not crazy about Klaas, but here he has a strong argument, IMO. Trista expressed deep frustration that investigators were putting her off in the December 27 and 28 issues of The Morning Sentinel. On January 3, she gets her damn meeting with investigators, and hasn't uttered a word since.
"What a mother should know" or however McCausland phrased it is very vague. It doesn't describe the tone, flavor, or atmosphere of the meeting. McCausland at least described the meeting with Justin as "frank" and made mention that communication with Justin had improved. McCausland refused to comment on the meeting with Trista.
I am leaning on the side of the meeting with LE in December was a meeting where they told her they are close to proving Justin did something to Ayla. . . they wouldn't have gone public and stated that they no longer thought that Ayla was alive. . . they wouldn't do that to the family unless they had some proof. . .that the public doesn't know about. I believe that they had a good reason to state that and unfornutately I believe Ayla is no longer with us. . . it is just so sad. . . . I wish Justin would just start talking. If it was an accident, accidents happen. . .but to leaave this poor child lost out there somewhere just isn't right.
DeleteI totally agree anon 3:16!
DeleteThey already told the family they don't think they will find Ayla alive. Did you miss that press conference? There was a big show done by the Reynolds family and everything. Google it.
DeleteThis interview to me shows exactly what Trista is all about. It says so much in this one interview. In one line McClausland says Trista is not ruled out and also the 3 are not telling everything
ReplyDeleteMcCausland, who is the only law enforcement official making public statements about the case, has said that no one, including Trista Reynolds, has been ruled out as a suspect in Ayla’s disappearance. However, McCausland has said that investigators believe the three adults who were with Ayla on Dec.16 — Ayla’s father, Justin DiPietro; his sister, Elisha DiPietro; and his girlfriend, Courtney Roberts — know more about her disappearance than they have told police, including how Ayla’s blood wound up in the basement of the DiPietro home at 29 Violette Avenue.
Trista Reynolds said that although police haven’t confirmed it, she is not a suspect. She said part of the reason for that is that police have told her things about the investigation. In recent days, Reynolds has posted some of those details on a website her family is maintaining at www.aylareynolds.com.
The Bangor Daily News will not repeat the accusations made by Reynolds because they could not be independently verified.
“The police have told me I can tell people whatever I want about the investigation, but that they won’t back me up with it,” Reynolds said.
McCausland said Wednesday he would not verify or deny Trista’s statements or the information posted on the website. McCausland also said police continue to urge Ayla’s family members to talk to the media. Asked if the Reynolds’ public statements complicate the investigation — particularly details they say were given to them by police — McCausland said they have not.
Justin DiPietro has refused numerous requests for comment from the Bangor Daily News since Ayla’s disappearance, including an unanswered phone call Wednesday.
“I have no reaction to specifics about what any family members are saying,” said McCausland. “I also have no reaction or information about what the website has said.”
Trista Reynolds said she has known some of the details she released over the weekend for several weeks, but chose to air them now in an attempt to put pressure on Justin, his sister and his girlfriend. Reynolds said DiPietro hasn’t responded to her phone calls or text messages for about two weeks.
“If this is going to be how I’ll get him to hear me, so be it,” she said. “He won’t answer my calls. He won’t even text me. I’m not stupid. It’s like, I know you know more than you’re telling me. Whether you want to start being against me and clam up and hide away again, that’s fine. I will put it out there for everyone to know the truth.”
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/15/news/state/aylas-mother-going-on-offensive-in-search-for-missing-girl/
This interview shows Trista's temper.
DeleteReally??? I don't think so. Trista had nothing to do with the disappearance of Ayla. . . it is so obvious. This blog is just to get people to question what they already know is the truth. . . Justin is the cause of Ayla's disappearance and soon or later LE will have enough to prove it in a court of law. . . the hard part is they have no body, the other hard part is that there was more than one person there that night and they are all not talking. . . not a peep, not about their faults as Trista has done not about their love a devotion to that beautiful little girl. . . they are all silent, Le has evidence it will come to an end. Ayla will get her justice. . . not Obscure and her followers. . aka justin's skirts!
DeleteI would be effing pissed off if my daughter was missing.
DeleteI would be devastated, worried,and heartbroken. One thing I would not have the time or energy to do would be to get on blogs and be on television just to be pissed off. I would be focusing my energy elsewhere. But then again I would never give up on my child not being alive so Trista's behavior is beyond comprehension to me as a mother.
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DeleteU4A might still be accepting applications. Hurry on over there. Qualifications include: People not being allowed to ask questions,sometimes even what they may think they already know. That about summons it up. Hurry on over there and check it out.
Here we believe everyone is entitled to their opinions. And it is not obvious that Trista has been ruled out not by a long shot.
Trista's love and devotion to that little girl included doing drugs while caring for her. And she was mentally unstable while caring for her. I know that couldn't be helped. But she could have taken her meds. Not made it worse by drinking and doing drugs. Not kept her kids by her side while doing so. I would say her devotion at times was questionable. She has been forced at times to attend vigils by family and friends. Sometimes while under the influence. And now she just wants to move on. She has even said it herself although I am sure when confronted as usual she will backtrack, she at least has baby Ray. As if he makes up for not having Ayla. I am so tired of hearing you people say what a great mom Trista is. Really? I know great moms. Trista is not one of them. Great moms fight for their kids they do not give up on them. I would much rather Trista have been silent for the past year then to have been saying her child was dead. What good has that done Ayla? There is no justice in that.
DeleteWell if its my opinion aren't I allowed to state it?????? Everytime I post here it is my opinion and I am berated and called an idiot. . . so what is the difference here???? Can you say hypocrites?????
DeleteIf LE told me that they have enough proof to make them believe that my child was no longer alive, I would start to accept the fact that my child was no longer alive. . . THEY HAVE THE PROOF TO BACK UP THEIR STATEMENTS THEY AREN'T SHARING IT WITH THE PUBLIC SO NOT TO DAMAGE THE CASE THEY ARE BUILDING AGAINST THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR AYLA'S DEMISE. Use your head for something other than a hat rack why don't ya!
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DeleteHow about you mention that Ayla was with Justin for 2 months before she disappeared, not in Tristas care. How about explaining the blood in the basement that was found using luminol. And how about telling us weather or not your son got the phone call before 911 got a call.
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DeleteFor starters yes let's talk about the fact that Ayla was in Justin's care not Trista's. That is normally when a non custodial parent who is angry with the arrangement is known to kidnap. Next blood in basement. I wouldn't know. Do you? And I don't have a son so I assume you are referring to Derek. Let's talk about that. What is your point? Why would it matter if he got a call? In fact I am curious wouldn't the police know that. And why might Justin have called Derek before 911? What was he thinking? What would have been going through his mind for him to have done that?
Hypothetical: I had a buddy that initially planned a play date for the kids (his and mine) on Saturday. I said no, we have other plans for Saturday, maybe next time. But then, my kid isn't in her bed Saturday morning. I look under the bed, in the closet, open drawers and cabinets, everywhere. My heart has closed my throat and one last place to look before calling police comes to mind. I pick up the phone, call my buddy, and ask, 'Dude, did you come over and pick up my kid for that play date?'
DeleteUnfortunately, he did not.
Anon2/2/13 9:14 AM2/3/13, 9:59 AM
ReplyDeleteBecause you are stating a lot of opinions here too.
That is the difference, I state mine as opinion, you stated yours as fact.
I don't know who the "they were most likely doing pills" was directed at but I can say I have heard Trista does do pills. And Justin I can tell you does not. And you are correct when doing his CDL licensing he would need to be clean of smoking and for future job hunting. And then once a job is obtained there are random drug testing requirements. And Justin was serious about building a stable life for Ayla, still is. Because unlike Trista Justin lives on the belief that Ayla WILL come home. For him as he puts it there is no other option.
Nothing about your statement was stated as opinion. You stated everything as fact. Many here claim this is what U4A does. It seems to me you are the one doing it, but if you doubt my opinion, ask any other commenter that is unbiased. I think you will be surprised with thier honest opinions. I never said you had to believe me, I stated my opinion and it is up to me to believe my opinions and talk about my opinion with others that may have questions about it. But if you want the people here to have credibility, maybe you should stop commenting on fact when you could only know it is fact if you are a family member.
I did drugs with Justin. We sniffed perk 30's and smoke blunts. We did this before and after he had Ayla. This is not a lie. We also took other perks but didn't sniff those. Vikes are like candy.
ReplyDeleteSA please. The fact that you have to tell us "this is not a lie" is very telling. You already know you need to defend yourself.
DeleteAnything one posts on here, and other blogs sets a person up to defend their comments so I don't see any importance to this person saying, "This is not a lie"
Delete"I did drugs with Justin." - No deception indicated.
Delete"We sniffed perk 30's and smoke blunts." - "smoke" is the wrong tense, deception indicated.
"We did this before and after he had Ayla." - "after he had" - Author does not tell us if this was after Ayla was born, but before Justin knew about her, after he was aware, or after he physically took Ayla. Deception indicated.
"This is not a lie" - Author doesn't tell us what is "not a lie". Is it the previous statement or the following? Deception indicated.
"We also took other perks but didn't sniff those." - "We", author is now changing from I to we, perhaps this is an attempt to share blame with Justin, or it could be a change of reality, (I took drugs with Justin to we took drugs with Justin), without explanation. Deception indicated.
"Vikes are like candy." - Unnecessary remark designed to make author look like they know about drugs. Deception indicated.
Oneannon
DeleteI would have to disagree with you. So much that is said on these blogs can just be ignored if you know that you are on the side of right. Then there is no need to defend yourself.
There are people here the same as any where who are familiar with people connected to the case. You can choose to believe them or not your choice. And I agree people at U4A do that. I choose to not believe them.
ReplyDeleteOh and we took E a couple times...and once he did molly and wanted me to do it too but I didn't. Ppl say he did bath salts but that's not true.
ReplyDeleteOK, I guess my age will show here but I don't know what some of these nicknames are. My best guess is perk 30's - percocet(sp), Vikes, I'll assume vicodin, E = ecstasy? I know what a blunt is. What the hell is molly?
DeleteNo bashing please, I'm not saying I believe an anon who claims to have used drugs with Justin. I'm ignorant of the slang and want clarification.
"Molly is a drug slang term used to describe the purest form of MDMA (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, commonly known as ecstasy)."
DeleteI didn't know what it was either, Dee. Had to do a Google search.
Molly is crystal Meth is'nt it? Molly and ectasy are same components but Molly the pure form whereas ecstacy has other chemicals mixed in. So Molly is a stronger drug.
DeleteYou sure know your stuff Oneannon
DeleteScout, 2/3/13 #;#$
ReplyDeleteI stand corrected, thanks.
I did some looking, and in my state, if your parental rights are terminated, you do NOT pay child support.
However, voluntary termination of parental rights is not likely to be granted by a judge.
I would agree that termination of parental rights would not terminate child support. But at the time remember Trista was engaged to Ray. And it is said he adored Ayla and loved her as his own. Adoption very well may have been what they had in mind when asking Justin to terminate his rights.
ReplyDeleteOT - I just checked out U4A new "sensitive topic" post/discussion....If you are going to quote me and link your post to my comment....make sure it's my comment and not something totally having nothing to do with my comment...it's quite misleading
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This is what John P posted as my post....
ReplyDeleteOaklandRez says “Now, if Justin did call Derek that morning, why is this information just now being divulged by Trista or her followers? It’s as mysterious as Trista all of a sudden saying Phoebe had a gun in the home. None of those things will ever be verified,”
and is linked to the "Validity" post here.....there's all of 4 comments and not one of them is mine....
so where is this really????
Anonymous 2:16
ReplyDeleteIf LE had proof Ayla was dead they would and could declare her dead. They have not done so because they do not have proof she is dead. It is that simple.
I don't think they can just declare her dead, she has to be missing for a certain period of time 5-7 years I believe before she can be declared dead and the police can't do that, I believe a judge has to.
DeleteIn order for someone to be declared dead legally, you're right, a certain amount of time has to pass and a court would grant a death certificate. But police can and do say ____ is no longer alive based on evidence they have. Kind of like when they change their focus from "search" to "recovery."
DeleteMy 2 cents anyway.
And just FYI, if you add a comment that is only about Tori commenting, it won't be approved.
Tori sorry if my comment was confusing. I was responding to Anonymous 2:16 in the comments above who states LE "knows Ayla is dead based on evidence they have" and my point to them was that I don't agree. If LE knew Ayla was dead based on evidence they had they could then declare her dead. They are allowed to declare people dead when there is evidence of death. But yes if she is just missing I would assume she could not just be declared dead.
DeleteWe have seen a number of cases wherein a missing person is declared murdered without recovery. 3 that first come to mind came with an arrest, Christina Fesmire and Samantha Koenig, who have since been recovered, and Sierra Lemar who has not.
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DeleteI agree a missing person can be declared murdered or dead without a body. I am just saying not without evidence. I am assuming those cases had evidence to substantiate declaring the victims murdered?
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I knew police could say that they had reason to believe someone was dead but not they could declare someone dead.
DeleteThanks Obscure for allowing me to comment and not have to worry about people just commenting to attack me.
WEll in my opinion LE did declare that they believe they will not find a live Ayla. . . . .
ReplyDeleteThat is not being disputed. LE can believe something is a possibility. Some people believe the world could end tomorrow. But that does not make it true.
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