As of April 21, Trista has a lawyer. (not confirmed fully, so speculation)
Investigators were planning to show Reynolds items that were recovered from the Kennebec River during a search of the Lockwood Dam on April 25, she said. They also planned to present her the same information that investigators shared with members of Ayla's paternal family -- father Justin DiPietro, aunt Elisha DiPietro and grandmother Phoebe DiPietro -- in October, Reynolds said.
"They've been doing this for six months," she said of the delays. "Six months ago, when all this stuff came up in the river, they told me they wanted to sit down and show things to me, and they still haven't done it. Now they're playing games with me."
Coinkydinks?
Trista lawyers up, investigators stop talking to her. She feels like they're playing games with her, and she still hasn't been shown the evidence.
I can only think
a) there is no evidence
b) they do not need Trista to identify the evidence
c) showing Trista the evidence would jeopardize their case against HER
Interesting time-line.
ReplyDeleteIf there is no evidence (option a), why won't LE simply say so instead of putting Trista off time and time again?
Ditto option b. If there is no need for Trista to view the evidence, what's the point of putting her off time and time again?
Not sure I can make the stretch to option c, though. At least not at this time.
Another thing I find interesting is that ONLY Trista speaks about these postponed evidence viewings. LE is mum on the matter. Once again, we are being asked to take Trista's word as truth on the matter without LE confirmation.
LE is mum about many things not just this.
DeleteI agree with mckee...options a & b make no sense to me either. LE could just tell her there is no evidence to show or that they don't need her input to identify items. There is no reason to keep putting her off if that is the case. I also am not going to make the leap to option c.
ReplyDeleteHow about D.) Showing Trista the evidence could jeopardize the case. Not against her, not against Justin, just the case. What they tell Trista seems to get out to the public. Maybe they want to share the info with the parents but don't want it made public knowledge. They don't have to worry about Justin spilling, he doesn't talk to the media. Trista does and whatever they tell her privately may come out.
I think Dee is most likely correct.
ReplyDeleteMSP has a reason for not revealing if what was found in the Dam was related to Ayla or not.
Whether it was or not, Trista most likely would have revealed it.
That siad, I do not think what was found was related to Ayla.
I agree with you, Dee. I think LE tells Trista, truth or not, only what they want broadcasted. Right now, they seem to not be in the mood to have anything about this case out in the public. As you say, they know the DiPietros will keep their lips firmly zipped.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe Trista knows anything about what happened to her daughter, but she seems to go half-cocked to the media about everything. And she definitely doesn't have a firm idea on how to present herself in the press. She comes out scatty and indecisive about things. She is the mom of a missing child, so in many ways, her "all over the place" presentation can be understood. What I don't understand is why the parental family refuses to say anything about their missing child. Who cares what people think of you or may misinterpret your words if you really care that your granchild, niece, and daughter is missing? I just do not get it.
Perhaps you're onto something, and/or perhaps there is an entirely different reason for finally (maybe) getting a lawyer. Let's not forget that 3 members of the paternal family did this long, long ago. Coinkydink? McKeety - at least Trista is still speaking. I don't know many parents of missing children who let a year slide by with no comment.
ReplyDeleteIt's not like she "finally" got a lawyer, she's had him since April....so she has had her lawyer as long as the Dips have had theirs (or pretty damned close to it)...as far as Trista goes and all the stuff she has revealed to the blog and the media, my guess is this is the biggest reason that LE has told her nothing as of late....they don't need her spilling her guts to the first person that will listen as she has done so far...I am still very much on the fence as to what has happened to Ayla...I don't think that 3 or more people can keep their collective mouths shut for a year, someone would have broke by now, or there would be some kind of sign that there was guilt (besides just not talking) like extreme weight loss, black circles under someones eyes, or serious physical illness....I haven't heard of such things involving either family
Deletemaybe just maybe this child was abducted by someone that is not a member of either family, but was familiar with the Dip household and their comings and goings.....
oaklandrez
I agree with both of you--Anonymous 12:27 AM and IsThisCharlieSheen. The important thing, in my opinion, is that Trista is still speaking. I feel that Trista's unsophisticated "presentation" in the media shows her relative immaturity, lack of a formal education, and emotional frame of mind. Trista's concern for her daughter, Ayla's welfare, and frustration that Ayla is still missing is palpable--in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct--it is not typical or normal at all for an innocent parent of a missing child to allow eight and a half months to go by without a public comment about their child. Besides, if Justin DiPietro is concerned that his words might be misinterpreted--why not a written statement even? Did he make a statement on the one year anniversary of Ayla's disappearance? No.
His concern, and making himself a victim, is his attempt to deflect.
DeleteJustin released two written statements. LE were the ones who released those statements for him.
DeleteYou people just were not paying attention. Imagine that.
@Oneannon
DeleteTrista has been making herself the victim since day one. Herself. Not Ayla. So is that her attempt to deflect oneannon?
Anon,when I asked this in another thread I received the response that the public doe not deserve to hear about this case. That particular person has missed the point (and perhaps is the one who has been missing the point on this for some time). Missing persons cases do not get solved by having the people who last saw the individual be completely silent. It's not just with LE, who can only be in finite areas at any given time - successful cases use all avenues to find a person... the media, the public, whatever it takes. So I remain confused why there is so much opposition to that.The order of priority should be 1) find Ayla, 2) worry about how people will rip my words apart. The priorities are backwards right now.
Delete@CharlieSheen
DeleteYou use the words "completely silent". What do you mean by this. I believe it is people like you and others who have missed the point. No one has been completely silent.
@ Lisa - I have not seen a single statement, plea, release of info, from her father in the past 8 months at least. Please show me where this is? If, as I suspect, you are being "literal" to divert attention from the obvious, then yes... nobody is "completely silent". But I think you know the difference, and know full well what I was saying in that post. It is in regard to sharing info with the general public that could help locate this little girl - it is not about the private conversations people might have with a small elite group. Whatever way your thinking is...anyone's thinking... how could relative silence be MORE beneficial than sharing any and all bits of info that could potentially help find a missing baby. The various "reasons" we have heard as to why this is occurring range from "the public will just analyze everything he says" to "the public doesn't deserve to hear anything about this case or any case".... huh? I am saddened to see this is truly the belief of some, and that they put their priorities over hers. I am surprised at anyone who believes that this behavior justified, and that the feelings of ANY adult holds more importance than the well being of a child.
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DeleteWhat kind of info do you think a family of a missing child might have that they could or should share with the public besides what the police has already shared with the public and thinks is relevant in helping to find the child. I am just curious.
I think whatever info Justin alluded to knowing back when he was talking. His "when the time is right" statement, as well as the "you have no right, you're not her parent" statement, as well as references from Phoebe that she had a suspicion who took Ayla, so there would be reasons why she thought this. ANY info passed along is better than no info. People seem to be hung up on the public wanting them to talk for our own curious nature (and I am sure that is true for some), but there are far bigger reasons why parents of missing children speak. If they suspect anyone, if they have reason to believe a certain person, group, idiot took Ayla, how could it NOT be helpful to have as many people as possible know these things, or be clued in to what could be clues? LE can't be everywhere; I would think the famiy would appreciate as much help as they could get. The more eyes on it that are aware of the details the better the chances. Of course this only works if Ayla was in fact taken.
Delete@CharlieSheen
DeleteI personally think people read what they wanted into Justin's "when the time is right" comment. If you go back and reread the article this is the complete statement and the context it is written in.
"DiPietro said there are good reasons to believe Ayla is with someone, but wouldn’t elaborate.
“When the time is right, everything is going to come out. And regardless of what law enforcement is saying or what (Ayla’s mother) Trista (Reynolds) is saying, this really isn’t the time to be saying anything.
I am not going to try and analyze this like others but it seems kinda clear to me.
As for his "you have no right your not her parent" comment I don't believe this family know's anymore than the police who has Ayla then or now otherwise Ayla would be home now. They may have their suspicions like everyone else as to possibilities of who may have taken her and their suspicions I am sure were given to the police but they are just that suspicions.
And Ayla was in fact taken. It is a missing child case. And Ayla was taken out of the home by someone.
Last in answer to your question "you would think the family would appreciate as much help as they could get. The more eyes on it that are aware of the details the better the chances."
What I would say to that personally is that I agree in part absolutely. I would want my child's face and description out there. And in this case Ayla's face was. And I would want to spread it as far and wide as I could. And again that was done. However I would not want to name a suspect publicly. As a parent I would not ever want to put my child in further danger and I would fear that this could do so. That would be something I would only speak to police about.
http://klaaskids.org/blog/?tag=justin-dipietro
DeleteFound this article interesting as I was looking at past interviews.
Some things I find interesting. While people claim Justin is/was doing nothing it shows that behind the scenes he was reaching out to people for help and support.
Does Klaas believe Justin should speak out more? Yes he does. Does he ignore the times he has spoken no.
Klaas found it a credit to Justin that he "refrains from attacking Trista in public and instead kept the focus on his missing child."
Thanks anon.
DeleteI hadn't read this article before.
I too find it a credit to Justin that he refrains from attacking Trista in public. IMO it speaks volumes of his character.
I agree with CharlieSheen, it is unbelieveable that the Dipietros have not spoken ot the "so called kiddnappers" more than once, begging to have their daughter, grand daughter, niece brough back home. . . .my thoughts on this is that they know that Ayla is not coming home, they know that she is gone. . . so sad and frustrating . . . heartless
ReplyDeleteThe Dipietro's have spoken out to the kidnapper and to the public more than once. Charlie Sheen is incorrect. Google it. Several written statements released by LE will come up. Several quotes in newspaper articles, and several television interviews. Choose to ignore it if you want but they are there. They have been all along. But people like you and Charlie chose to ignore that then and do so now. Why is that?
DeleteI said he (Justin) has not spoken to the media or plead to any kidnappers in more than 8 months. You are reading what you want to read, seeing what you choose to see. I deliberately worded it that way because I acknowledge that he spoke early on. I listened to every word, felt for him on an occasion when he did speak out, wondered if he even COULD be involved and how he must be feeling. Then it suddenly stopped and he went away. I don't understand how a parent could do that, period. It doesn't mean he is or is not guilty, but it does not, in my opinion, make it easy to feel for him. In my opinion (which isn't worth any more than anyone else's), he is putting his needs before hers. Putting his concerns above all else. It's hard not to see it that way. I can agree with "S" above, that to his credit he is not attacking Trista. I want to be able to leave that sentence there... but when he is not speaking at all, it's sort of hard to attack anyone, isn't it? It's an uncomfortable place for me to say that I am having a hard time "feeling" for the parent of a lost child - not a pretty admission to make. Sure do wish he could get people like me behind him (not for me, for her). I can also get on board with not naming a suspect publicly... it reads that way but I really meant if there is someone they suspect - tall man with dark hair and orange jacket was hanging around our house - then it should be shared. It seems you might not believe in LE, I do. They might not always get it right, but if what tiny bits of info they release include that they believe she is dead, I believe that decision was made thoroughly, and with evidence. If they say the people in the house are not sharing all they know, I am inclined to believe that too. If they said that about Trista, then it would be ditto. At some point, people need to come out of hiding and stand up for someone who is not able to stand up for themselves. That's what we sign on for when we do the deed that makes us parents. Period.
DeleteIt is not a matter of believing LE. What they have said is they believe people in the house are not telling all they know. And I believe LE believes that. But believing something does not make it true. I have never seen where LE says they believe Ayla is dead. I saw the press conference where they stated they believed it unlikely that they would find her alive. Again key word believed.
DeleteAs a good parent we do what WE think is right for our child no matter how it effects us. No matter how people are judging us for it. That is what we sign on for. Period.
There is no state of consciousness between dead and alive. Yes, they used the word "believe", but if you cannot see the connection between "not being alive" and "dead", well... I don't even know what to say. You can re-arrange was many words as you like, if that makes things easier for you. As for your last sentence... again, putting yourself first as a parent is unacceptable, period. We aren't talking about taking the last piece of cake here. I doubt we will ever agree on the role of a parent as it relates to self preservation vs. a childs preservation, so we can move on.
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ReplyDeleteI think the vigil was set up by Ayla Reynolds Ayla's Angels on FB. March 3rd:There will be a Teddy bear vigil for Ayla on March 3rd at 1pm. It will be held in Castonguay square here in Waterville. If you would like to bring a Teddy to be placed at Ayla's site that will be great. Lisa Howard will be handing out bracelets, I have green nightlight bulbs to hand out and am planning on making up more ribbons. Please come and show your support for our smallest and most important Angel.
I am just so frustrated with this whole case!! Why is is so hard to figure out where baby Ayla is? In other states, they seem to find missing children most of the time, why haven't they removed Elisha's baby until LE finds out what happened? That doesn't make any sense at all, that baby is in danger every day! Why does everybody want to speculate that Trista is the guilty one, when Justin NEVER shows up to talk about his baby daughter at all, he could care less, all of them on the paternal side, the Grandmother must be whacked out, to not show emotions and never publicly speak out for her Granddaughter!!??? The Dips are all mentally unstable to never want to talk or even praise Ayla up at who she is or was...why??? Things that make a person go hmmm. I pray daily that Ayla is found and returned to her Mother ASAP....Ayla, 2013 is your year for justice <3
ReplyDelete@Anonymous
DeleteWho are you? And where do you get your statistics? Missing children across the board are not found any easier in one state compared to another. If you have found statistics to prove otherwise please share.
Secondly since when do we as a society remove children from a parent who has not been proven guilty of ANYTHING. I understand that you personally believe Elisha MAY have done something wrong but that does not prove it or make it so. And usually and thankfully the way things work in this country is that we wait for someone to be PROVEN guilty of something in a court of law before we punish them.
b. IMO they would show the evidence to her if they needed to do so to identify it. If forensics did the job, they don't need her ID and showing it to her would (1) not be a priority and (2) may not be something they want to do if they don't want the details of what was found known either by the three who choose silence or the general public.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 10:04. You seem to believe Ayla is alive and just not found. Do you think a member of the father's family is hiding Ayla somewhere without the consent of the father? And Ayla's dad knows the culprit is a relative and doesn't want to get that person into trouble? That's why Justin said "The truth is the truth and it will come out, but now is not the time."
ReplyDeleteIf Ayla is with someone known to Justin, then Justin knows Ayla is safe and being cared for. Therefore, he doesn't have to worry aboout her safety or care, but he can't say much to the public without getting his relative in trouble. But then again, if knows what relative might have her, why wouldn't he go get her even if she is being kept miles away from Maine?
i think you hit the nail on the head. it's to simple to be believable. i m a believer.
DeleteWait, Huh?
ReplyDeleteJohn P.says:
January 2, 2013 at 9:43 pm
"To add to the facts that he failed, I have taken one or two (dozens) polys before and they do not train people how to read a poly chart and then allow them to read there own graphs"
Really John, one or two dozen? Wow! Unbelievable
I hope Obscure makes that a post to highlight it and explore. THAT is one VERY creepy statement from him! How can anyone spin this as positive?
Deletehe may not mean taken as the subject but as the examiner?
DeleteHe would/should have used the word "administer" instead of "taken."
DeleteAnonymous1/2/13 8:31 PM
ReplyDeleteEvery last one of you stupid fucks lost your mind...Justin and Derek killed Ayla....how can you sit here any say other wise??? Ayla was in Justins care. Is it going to take Derek killing his son before y'all get it...Justin is a pussy ass bitch that's gonna get raped up the ass all day every day for the rest of his life. And I can't wait!!!! None of y'all even talk about Ayla and care about Ayla all you care about is sucking Justins cock."
I don't think Justin has to worry about being in the position to be raped...as long as he and his relatives and friends keep their mouths shut. LE obviously has nothing on him which they can prove..or if they, do the SAs are demanding that Ayla's body be found to bolster the case.
As we discuss this, Ayla's remains have probably long since entered the Atlantic Ocean. Many of the Maine-i-ac streams do flow into the Big Pond, do they not? Aside from the possibility of her body flowing into the ocean, there's Maine's deep and dark wooded areas in which a body could lie for many years not found...if ever.
Even if Ayla's body is found, the DiPietro story would still be that Ayla was abducted and later killed.
The Justin defenders' story would still be that Trista had Ayla abducted and Ayla was killed, somehow.
Poor little pumpkin. We will never know what happened, but we do know that Ayla, with her two parents, was an accident waiting to happen.
S...While one or two dozen does sound excessive, IF John works for the government in some capacity it is feasible. He has stated he lives in VA so he may work for a federal agency like so many in that area do. He is not young (nor am I) because he's stated he has grandchildren. So over the course of the years he may have been subjected to that many poly's. How often you are required to take one depends on who you work for and in what capacity. The agency my husband used to work for and his clearance level made him subject to poly's every other year or as deemed necessary. If he still worked there he could easily have taken 20 poly's by now.
ReplyDeleteIf my assumption that he works for the government is not right then yes, that many poly's would seem odd.
Thanks for your comment Dee.
DeleteI will say that I never considered that John P. may, or may have, worked for the government.
With John's weak heart maybe it isn't a good idea
DeleteWho should NOT take a polygraph test:
Anyone who is being forced to take it.
Any person with a serious heart condition, unless his doctor has given written approval. A pregnant women, unless her doctor has given written approval.
Any person who is determined to be mentally incompetent. Any person who has a respiratory illness or cold. Any person who has nerve damage or paralysis.
Any person who has had a stroke or is an epileptic. Any person who is in pain (i.e., toothache, headache or a recent injury).
http://www.accreditedpolygraphservices.com/polygraph-questions.php#question-12
That's possible, D, but it would be great if John P. could explain it himself.
DeleteI shudder to think that a government employee runs a blog while on the clock. John P often states "I'll respond when I get home from work" only to post again minutes later. My tax dollars at work?
DeleteAnd that goes for Peter Hyatt as well.
true story, mckee - plus Hyatt makes money off his online activity
Delete@tt....I wasn't making excuses for him, just speculating. I have no idea what he does for a living. It's just one reason to have had what sounds like an excessive number of polys.
DeleteI remember that John P is retired military. Depending on what his job was in the military he may have been required to take polys or he may have been in a position where he administerd them. I don't feel he owes anyone any explanation tho.Big hairy deal if he posts during breaks or lunchtime etc.
Deletehttp://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/investigators-meet-with-trista-reynolds_2013-01-04.html
ReplyDeleteGee, mckeekitty, I think it (the case) is too much for your sense of tidy control. Has anyone ever accused you of control issues? I'm betting...yes.
ReplyDelete"Has anyone ever accused you of control issues?"
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Only you, Anonymous. Time and time again.
An "anonymous" poster that only seeks to attack another poster is, in my opinion, the scum at the bottom of the cesspool. Has anyone ever accused you of that? I'm betting...yes.
OT I do wish that people wouldn't use terms that they really don't know about. Such as this happened on Justin's watch. Pennyauntie doesn't know if she is talking about a bird watch, or a wrist watch. The term was used in the military where a person was standing guard with a rifle while the other troops slept. A president also uses this term but he has many people watching for him. A parent does not do this, they care for and protect their children as best they can. Everyone requires sleep so anything can happen, that is why we call it a tragedy. jmo
ReplyDeleteDana B., how do three adults in a TINY house with one bathroom and three little kids who are probably up and down during the night, sleep like the dead? Nobody stirs for 12 hours? And they don't hear one thing during the night? And how does a child with a broken arm not get "looked at" for more than 12 hours? I tell you, it doesn't make any sense.
ReplyDeleteAddressing the 12 hour void in the household's non-contact with Ayla: either the Waterville 3 or 4 were drugged out of their minds, the kids, too, and slept like the dead, (which the intruder knew about and counted on), or else the people in that house just didn't care a fig about Ayla. So she's has a broken arm. So what? To hell with the kid! Everybody is going to get his/her beauty sleep! Pass the pills! Be sure Gabby and Ayden are also "calmed".
More likely, nothing happened in that house the way the DiPietros tell it. (Courtney says nothing). And those stories which probably don't match is one reason how LE comes to a certain conclusion.
Where does the 12 hours keep coming from other than U4A? Ayla was checked on at 10:00 and the household awoke between 8-8:30. By my math that is 10 to 10 1/2 hours. Which by the way is a normal amount of time for a child to sleep.
DeleteHow would I know I wasn't there. I have never been in the house so don't know how tiny it is. I don't know if it was ever a playroom in the basement and insulated for noise. There are too many things we don't know to just say they were all drugged up. I don't know the people personally so can not say. When my children were small I slept very sound and my wife tended the children if she heard them. Before you climb all over me let me tell you one thing that happened. We had a son that was 3 months old, that night my wife put the baby in it's bedroom. We slept all night as the baby was an all night sleeper. The next morning when we awoke my wife went to check on our son because he should have been hungry by then. Our son had died in the night a crib death. We were devastated and blamed ourselves, I am glad there wasn't any internet then because the way people attack we would have been crushed. The next son that was born slept in our bedroom for over a year with my wife's hand on his back so she could feel him breathing all night. The son that died was our 3rd son so we already had 2 sons that were also all night sleepers that made it fine, so how do you know? There is no better mother than my wife so don't even try to say she isn't. I can tell you of people that lived in a house trailer 12 x 65 they woke up one morning and found a drunk sleeping on there couch. They never heard him come in and had to threaten to call the cops before he would leave, they didn't even know who he was. Now tell me how no one could sleep through that and I will say your just to perfect.
ReplyDeleteJesus, Dana. I'm so sorry for the loss of your infant son. How sad.
DeleteI don't understand why the police are so adament that Ayla couldn't have been abducted. How do you disprove such a scenario?
We had a rash of break-ins over the holiday season in our area. All occured at night, while the occupants slept.
If there was audible rustling in the house that night, I could easily see Justin and Courntey dimsissing it as Elisha up and about, and vice-versa. It would not occur to me that a toddler was being abducted.
Again...sorry for your terrible loss.
Dana, perhaps late, but my most sincere condolences on the loss of your son. I understand your reference to being glad there was no internet at that time.
DeleteAnon. 1/5 10:09
The home you describe is most likely the type where the occupents wouldn't awake to noises at night, IMO. In a small house where there is normally 3 adults and 2 todlers, one would espect that there would be noises at night, at various times. Adults come and go at different times & go to bed at different times. Todlers sometimes awake at night. You become accustom to hearing noises at night and ignor them,..sleep through them.
Yes Ayla had a broken arm, but by this time, Dec.17, I don't think it was causing her any problems or pain. At her Dr. visit on Nov. 21 the Dr.'s report indicated that it was basically healed, and Ayla was doing very well. I'm sure at a month later she had gone back to her normal, regular routine in sleeping habits, with no problems.
So sorry for loss Dana.
DeleteDana - I am so very sorry for your loss. My sense is you and your wife have been mutually supportive. May your love continue to see you through.
DeleteYou are right, someone can enter a small home while the occupants are sleeping and not be heard. Additionally, as S pointed out, if any noise was heard, one would assume it was one of the many other people in the house.
And am interpreting this as some of you thinking Ayla could have died in the night?
ReplyDeleteNow, that scenario is one possibility that I go along with. Not that Ayla wasn't checked sometime during the night, but that she appeared to be peaceful, not fussy, and doing okay, so after a scare suffered by the DiPietros about her condition, Ayla seemed well enough to be left alone to sleep through the night.
If there was a concern about a concussion, people are told to keep the patient awake for a certain amount of time. Of course, this advice, and any other medical advise, would have come from a paramedic or ER doctor or nurse, and we know Ayla wasn't taken to any hospital during the day before or night of her disappearance.
When everybody began to stir the next morning, one of them (we're not too sure just which one) discovered Ayla dead, not from crib death, of course like poor Dana's baby, but from an accident the evening before for which 911 was not called.
But what kind of an accident occurs with a young child and you do not immediately call 911, or take the her to an ER? Well, an accident which occurred with a child who only recently suffered a broken arm under the not too careful balance of her father. A second accident occurring with the same child and with an adult in the same house might say that the adults were not too careful with the child, or not in control of themselves or maybe neglectful.
LE might think it odd that too many accidents were happening to this baby. Much simpler to just dispose of the baby after finding her dead and go with the abduction scenario. It seems to work in many missing baby cases. As it appears to be working in this one.
If Ayla had been abducted, the DiPietros would have been continually front and center from day one pleading for her return. (If you believe they cared for her at all.) Especially, if they believed someone they knew had taken her.
Also, LE and the FBI --the latter team called in as experts in this type of case -- would have found some evidence of the abduction, which they say not.
The DiPietros are not front and center with Ayla's name and attending the "events" because they know that all the PR hoopla to keep Ayla in the news is useless. In my opinion.