The email is not sensational at all; however, I have to wonder why law enforcement did not state these exact things in their actual press conference. I recall McCausland reading notes off of a piece of paper, did he conveniently forget to voice these things? Also, if they had previously told Trista that a cup full of blood was found, wouldn't Trista already know that Ayla is deceased? If Trista didn't know how much a cup full of blood was, and what it meant in terms of Ayla's survival, wouldn't she have asked at that time?
Maybe I'm over thinking that...who knows?
My other question is why Jeffrey would feel the need to preempt the press conference by divulging this information to these people? Didn't MSP ask Trista to keep the information confidential? She took that so seriously, that she went in the media after the fact and straight up LIED. She put on an entire performance with her family, yet Jeffrey was so composed that he had the forethought to let other bloggers in on the secret? Hmmm...."There's something wrong"---*Cindy Anthony voice*...
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Before anyone asks (namely John P), I will NOT remove any email addresses. If the blogger who revealed this email is lying, how did she get your email address in the first place? You gave it to her, thereby risking that at any point she could make it public. POW!
Good day, folks!
So, supposedly, Trista took the "do not tell anyone until after the press conference" to mean that she had to lie afterwards to the reporter who mentioned that McCausland twice said at the pc that he talked to her beforehand. But, she didn't take it so seriously that it stopped her from giving information to Jeff, and then Jeff emailing said information to Jeff-friendly bloggers in advance of the pc. Makes sense?
ReplyDeleteIf none of them have "guilty knowledge" of what happened to Ayla, I would hope they could realize that their lies are distracting and confusing the process in finding out what really happened. When they lie so freely it discredits everything they say... and why would they lie if they don't know anything?
Exactly -P
DeleteJust when I think this blog was starting to avoid some drama and gain some respect you post peoples personal info. I like to come here to debate and discuss but this is not right.
ReplyDeletePeople need to recognize the risk when they send such emails. -p
DeleteI tattled to Peter and cried like a little bitch for him to remove a link that clearly showed I as well as 10 other people were emailed and told by Jeff about what was going to be revealed in the media in regards to Ayla being dead before the press conf. We sure didn't want people to know, mostly LE, that Jeff/trista are leaking info to us because then they wouldn't get any more info. I made peter take the link to Graces page (yeah me!!)down so people couldn't see I lied about getting the email and am part of the conspiracy. When Le gives Trista sensitive info she is not supposed to share it but we get sneak previews because all the work we do for her, like stupid ass letters that make no sense and fun stuff,especially the beatdowns of the opposing party and anyone who agrees with them. We even slander State Farm and make accusations they allow money laudering in their agencies!!So in short, that dumb Peter is now my official sock puppet! I pretty much own his blog and control shit! I am a big shot!
ReplyDeleteALL comments subject to removal.
They certainly don't like being called out for their behavior. They're much more comfy with alluding to us being horrible people without proof of such to be found on this earth than to have Obscure and others rip them for what they ACTUALLY do wrong. -yb
DeleteI see the maturity level has also dropped quite a bit here. Someone is craving a little too much attention. Was it really necessary to release people's personal info? You could have blocked that part out to get your point across.
ReplyDeleteOh really? Lol. Do you read/post over at idiots unite for attention a.k.a "united for Ayla" aka " answers for Ayla " aka "justice for Ayla" et al ? If so. ... HYPOCRITE. :). Thanks for playing. Buh bye now. - Curious George ii
DeleteI am beginning to wonder if what is said to be said by Trista is really said by her or if Jeff is making shit up,Why won't Le confirm anything?I am going to drive 20 hrs to ride bikes with my new pal Jeff and ask him, but, anyways I don't have time to ponder this right now because my granbaby just pooped her diaper again!
ReplyDeleteOk I wont post here any more if this childish shit continues. Sick individuals who play games like this on a blog about a missing/likely deceased child. Karma is all I can say.
ReplyDeleteYour right anonymous, there are sick individuals playing games on a blog about a missing baby, but it is NOT this blog.
DeleteThis blog seeks to bring attention to those sick games.
Sorry, was in a hurry earlier, and quickly typed this comment.
DeleteI'm not satisfied with it.
Not speaking for Obscure, but one purpose of this blog is to dispel the rumors put out there on the internet. Thus, it's name
Stop The Lies.
This email is out there, it didn't originate here.
It isn't the only interesting email I have....is it Obscure?
DeleteI wouldn't know...I'm sure there's more where that came from though!
DeleteThere is. Another exclusive is on it's way. Fans of Tori Gifford stay tuned.
DeleteNo one will read your stolen blogs, or you block their IP, so you have to crawl for help to Obscure. Obscures blog is a better format for your info, if she wants to use it. Since no one reads your blogs.
DeleteSuz, shut the fuck up already. You don't have to read ANY blog, let alone comment. Grace didn't crawl to me for anything, I saw the email on her blog and copied/pasted it. That simple.
DeleteWhere have you been hiding, by the way? I've missed your presence. Nothing says trailer park trash sprinkled generously with ignorance like Suzanne Cotter!
Suz,
DeleteYou might be surprised. I'm willing to bet that more people read Grace's blog than you think.
I have this feeling that the first ones there every day are Tori & Jeff.
I'll never tell....
Deletemckeekitty says:
ReplyDeleteJuly 18, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I’m puzzled.
''“McCausland said Ayla’s parents, Justin DiPietro of Waterville and Trista Reynolds of Portland, were notified of the search early Tuesday morning.”
And then this:
“McCausland said searches for Ayla will continue, but police will no longer “pre-announce” the times and locations of searches, as they had done during the winter and spring.”
Seems pretty obvious to me, LE will no longer be giving either parent the heads up, QUITE SHOCKING they are cutting Trista off of their secret info sessions.NOT. I think they found out Trista has been leaking info she shouldnt have been. LE told her not to say nayting about one of the press conf ABOUT AYLA IKELY BEING DEAD, and not only doesnt she listen she actually emails a bunch of people about what they told her. Oh sorry, her pervert of a step farther did.....my bad.
Did Trista know Jeff emailed everyone? wasnt she at home with her fam on the couch with the tv cameras, and where was he....?typing away on his computor.. now John is all pissy pants trying to do damage control by silencing grace, one of the people who recieved it too.
stupid peter running around deleting so they can all CYA.
So lets just say that this email is real. . . to me it says that LE has enough evidence to know that Ayla is no longer alive, to me it states that LE has way more evidence then they have shared and are pursuing their investigation on the evidence they have. So when LE states that the three in the home aren't telling everything they know, IMO, they just don't know which of the three caused the trauma. It was one of the three in the house, but unless they know beyond a reasonable doubt which one, a trial would be senseless. I think it was a aunt who probably was left to babysit Ayla while her dad when running around. . .
DeleteTo me it is just Jeff's word still. LE did not write the email. Or am I reading it wrong? And Jeff's word to me has proven to be well let's just say less than accurate.
Deleteshe couldnt block the email addys it was a screen shot, like a photo, yu cant alter it.
ReplyDeleteLOL, you're kidding, right?
DeleteOn tori's blog, they said that ben mccanna from the MS was leaked info about this search....
ReplyDeleteThen I recalled that Steve McCausland said that both parents were notified about the search, then he said that no further notifications would be issued.
Did Trista/Jeff leak this info too?
THIS! yes of course they did. Now MSP realizes that Trista and Co. Have loose lips...
DeleteHey guys, email addresses are NOT considered PERSONAL INFORMATION.
ReplyDeleteFrom http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1567 :
"When it comes to an email message, for example, people tend to think of it as a private correspondence written to someone else, similar to a letter in a sealed envelope. But an email message is more like a postcard, according to Whitehouse. "Your mailman can read your postcard -- by chance, by design or because he's bored. The administrator of an email server is like the mailman; an email message is just a file on the server. Most administrators have no reason to look at it. But it's there nonetheless. And let's say you delete your email. Is it gone? It's gone from some places, but it could be backed up by the Internet service provider."
"Even the lowly email carries enormous risks. "We have a well-entrenched notion of the assumption of risk," according to Freiwald. "If I send you an email and you forward it, I've taken the risk that you were going to do that by sending you the email. If I send the email, the law considers me taking the risk."
thats right, john gave his email addy to STRANGERS on the internet whom he has never met in person. He put it out there as well as the fact he is from ohio , has a heart condition, is ex military and has a couple of grankids that poop constantly. He is obsessed wit ayla and is planning on driving several hours all the way from ohio to do a bike run with jeff. as if that is going to find the poor little girls corpse for burial. trista is a semi celeb right now andJP is hopping on the bandwagon. wordman got his attention by writing a stupid letter to the govenor using words like I beeseech and Implore you, who talks that way to a govenor? Putting words in Tristas mouth, did she even sign the letter herself or did jeff do it for her? hmmmmmmm did she know about it at the time, well she knows now!
Deletenow vtlady another low rent intellect is all pissy because shes not getting her accolades for her moronic letter to state farm, they havent responded.boo hoo hoo!! waaah! well duh, the letter went into state farm outer space, not addressed to anyone. there were no insurance violations listed in the letter for them to respond to. insurance companies dont investigate deaths unless a claim is filed and none has been filed yet, that anyone knows of. these pompous dildo's think they can demand responses to their nonsense so they can post it as a blog title and crow about how they accomplished great tings. it's all ego and NONE of what they have done has brought back the remains of ayla so her soul can recieve justice. all the poor poor trista bullshit too. what about poor ayla, she's the one who was sent to be tortured and was abandoned by her pickled mother, she's the one rotting out there somewhere, trista is still alive and kicking stuffing her face with big macs and whatnot.enjoying the star treatment off the corpse of her daughter.
there is no doubt in my mind some of her text msgs to justin were edited by jeff and or tori, after the fact, before tori posted them.
and that justin asshole. I mean really. this guys is a ten time piece of dung. but trista was sweating him BIG TIME and still is apparently...wtf?
I doubt Justin leaked it, why would he? Jeff is a blabbing bafoon as we saw in the email. He has his own agendas. He will push Trista write a book or what not and pocket some of the proceeds as her 'manager' why do you think he put himself in the thick of things. Even Trista sayshe has taken everything over and is controlling things. she needs to stop trusting him. something sick about that dude. I saw him comment on shannie and boos blog about something vile and filthy and Jeff was crowing how much he liked it. He is a creep. Is it true he is hitting or trying to hit boots with Tori? He is mega gross. Trista doesnt even comment on her babies own blog.
ReplyDeleteSo just what did they find at the dam? Trista did an interview back then and said they found nothing significant. Jeff may have been embellishing when he said the announcement was linked to items found at the dam.
ReplyDeleteIf they found items linked to Ayla at the dam, they would be focused there, not in other parts of the river.
I think when Trista talked about the items at the dam she said she was told that the items recovered in the May search were unrelated but the items found earlier in April, by a worker, they wouldn't say. Read into that what you will. I say something keeps them going back to the water - we don't hear about any new land searches other than the riverbanks when they dive. What keeps them going back to the water, Sherlock? Something shows up at the dam, you search there then work your way upstream, where things found in the dam would have come from.
DeleteAnd I'm pretty sure John Watson would say that a 20 month old spilling a cup of blood would result in an ER visit if not a 911 call for an ambulance if it happened in the presence of a responsible adult. I mean what do you do otherwise? Apply pressure and hope the bleeding stops then say "meh, it was only a cup or so, she'll be okay"?
@ JT Poopyhead, Justin doesn't comment on any blog or any news cast either, so fair is fair. @ Anon, I agree - if you find something in the dam you work your way upstream - items wouldn't flow any other direction. I would suspect (aka this is my "guess")since we heard a definitive statement that the items in May were unrelated but nothing on the first batch, that there is a decent potential for the first items to be related. I think that's a reasonable assumption, but an assumption nonetheless. I haven't the words for some of the other accusations except to say I must have missed a LOT because I haven't figured out how Jeff went from brainwasher to pervert.
Delete“Based on everything we know — the thousands of hours of investigation, the 1,127 leads that have come in, the searches, the dives and the evidence gathered — we think it’s highly unlikely that Ayla Reynolds will be found alive,” said state police spokesman Stephen McCausland. If we read this statement carefully, Mc Causland says they have some evidence, he also talks about the dives. I think they did find quite a good amount of Ayla's blood, which would have required a visit to the emergency. And I think they found something in the water. He mentioned evidence and the dives in the reasons that make them reach this conclusion
DeleteBonnie, yes, we could read it that way - or we could read it as McCausland's assertion they are working hard on the investigation though it appears they've made no progress. Clearly there was not information gleaned from everything he listed.
DeleteAlso, lots of people could have put Ayla's items in the river, like Trista, Jessica, Ronnie Jr., Becca, Ronnie Sr, the kidnapper, and anyone else who ever had access to Ayla's things.
ReplyDeleteyeah, here i have to stop you. no one put shit in the river except for the dipietros. why would tristas family,not incl jeff, want to do that and have them search there for no reason by throwing red herring into the water. makes no sense. I dont believe the reynolds killed ayla or dumped her stuff there...they had no motive to do that, isnt justin the beneficiary of 25,0000? ah see, here we have means, motive and opportunity.
Deleteis someone calling in tips for the river? who is it. ?
John & your granny panties,
DeleteWho knows what the Reynolds may have motive to do?
Who knows what was found in the river, if anything pertaing to Ayla?
@Sherlock. . . ok now you are just reaching. WTF The Reynolds had nothing to do with Ayla being missing. . . . Your opinions are ridiculous! I think you might be on crack. . .that would be my opinion!
DeleteWhy the need for drug usage references?
DeleteIt makes me wonder if those making the references aren't the ones using the drugs.
You might want to rethink doing that.
I have no doubt that Jeff sent the email.
ReplyDeleteHe's just too full of himself, not to have.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. This guy has a mouth and ego that just won't quit. the question is, are his leaks hurting ayla's chance for justice? are the coffee clutch crew on the u4a blog undermining the ivestigation and doing more harm than good with their gossip,leaks, lies, twist,inuendos and slander. inserting themselves into the case with their ridiulous letters.
DeleteI picture mountain mama with braided armpit hair,living in a log cabin which may or may not contain chickens, her hubby covered in tatooes stirring moonshine in the bathtub...I picture John Pees wife siting in rocking chair in the same dress and hat form 20 years ago, covered in dust, like norman bates mother....no wonder he can spend23 hours a day online...
DeleteLOLOL this is funny!
DeleteYeah lots of funny things when it comes to a precious, beautiful baby coming up missing and evidence to prove that something lethal happened to her. . .lots to laugh at there. Makes me wonder what kind of people run this blog
Deleteanon, note the subject matter of this particular thread (Jeff, mountain mama, JohnP - people who have been outspoken in bashing this blog owner) - further note that this site is not adamant that Ayla is deceased, and the owner of the blog does not believe she is
DeleteHere is another screenshot of that email. There is something very fishy about the Reynolds clan.
ReplyDeletehttp://oi50.tinypic.com/k550s7.jpg
@Anon, who wrote: “There is something very fishy about the Reynolds clan.”
DeleteYou got that right!
McCausland said both parents were notified before the press conference. Jeff says McCausland told Trista not to mention anything about it until AFTER the press conference. Didn’t Trista say, AFTER the press conference, that she never heard from police, she was in appointments?
(Jeff says) MSP told Trista that the blood, and items found in the damn, were the reason they believe Ayla is dead. Isn’t it convenient that Jeff says, “I do not know how much of this they will reveal to the public at 1:30…”
"Nothing substantial was located," McCausland said. " When asked what he meant, he says, "I don't want to get into specifics," Isn’t that his typical answer to any question asked of him?
Some people interpret this to mean they have found evidence against Justin. They can’t leak any evidence they have, it could ruin their case.
How about, “I don't want to get into specifics”, because then I’d have to tell you we have nothing, we have no idea what happened to Ayla. But, we will continue our searches looking for Ayla’s body, because we think Justin killed her.
Do the police really play games, to this extent? If they are, is it with Justin?
Signed:getrealpeople
To answer you question. Yes the police do play games. To any extent they need to. And with either side they need to. And with the public if deemed necessary. They will lie in a New York Minute. They will be evasive. They DO NOT have to divulge information to anyone. This is not about the parents or the public for them. All they care about is the child or the "case" they are working on. And they will take any measures necessary to solve that case.
DeleteBut you have no evidence that MSP is playing games so this is what, innuendo, slander?
DeleteI agree LM, though I doubt they consider it in terms of playing games (though comments like "the straight face test" make me wonder). Their focus is to find Ayla and they will say/not say and do/not do (with the family, the public, the media) whatever they feel could further their investigation.
DeleteThank you Obscure! :)
Deletesigned:getrealpeople
Thank you Obscure. I have some knowledge of how LE works also. And for the record LE themselves will tell you just what they will do to solve a case. Find someone who works in LE. Do the research. I challenge you. I am sure someone knows someone who knows someone. Then ask them. Many times a person in LE will explain how they work. Just like any other person will. And yes I have been told that that is how they work. And Space you are correct they do not consider it playing games. That was a poor choice of words. I was replying to an above post. It is just how they do their jobs. It is called tactic.
Delete@LM
DeleteI might agree LE may play some games, but not to the extent that is being stated by some. I can’t believe they would put searchers lives in danger, and spend 100’s of thousands of dollars, with the hope that it will make someone confess or talk. They are not doing all of this to see if someone “squirms”.
If it’s true they have all of this evidence from the house, vehicles, and searches, why haven’t they arrested anyone yet? They apparently don’t have all the evidence some people may want you to think they do, or they have no idea who the perp is.
All we really have from LE is that they found blood (how much, we don’t know), and some of it was Ayla’s. Even them saying they have evidence of foul play, that does not rule out an abduction by a “stranger”. So basically, LE has contradicted what they said previously, “that no abduction happened, it is not possible”. They have nothing on Justin, yet they keep pointing in his direction.
Investigations usually involve letting the public know some information about evidence that they have found. They may hold back on releasing one or two pieces of evidence that they feel are the most important, evidence that only the perp would know. But all we hear is: “I’m not going to get into specifics”; We think they are not forthcoming with what they know”; It doesn’t pass the straight face test”; “It doesn’t pass the smell test”; “I’m not going to comment on that”; etc., etc., etc.
So, if it is true that LE is playing games, who are they playing them with?
I don’t think they are playing games. They don’t know what happened to Ayla and refuse to expand their search in different directions.
This is just all my opinion!
Signed:getrealpeople
@getrealpeople
DeleteYou could be right. I really hope you are wrong. I would much rather it be that they are playing a game. No matter who it is against. And that they are still actively involved in trying to figure this out. Because the truth is out there but it may not be found if they do not search in the right places.
I love the misspelling of dam. Freudian slip?
ReplyDeleteOMG, Michelle, I did it too! (LOL) I was reading off his e-mail while I was typing, to get what he said correct!! I didn't catch it. (DUH)
Deletesigned:getrealpeople
Talk about freudian slips!
DeleteFrom the other blog:
"Tori has gone to anazing lengths to keep Ayla’s name out there. While going through a serious surgery, and recuperation, vicious attacks in her family, dealt with I’m sure a variety of other significant life issues at the same time as seeking Justice for Ayla. Has she asked for thanks? Not that I can remember. Has she sought out a pat in the back – no. Has John been anything but honest and kind? No. Has he gone through the same traumatic attacks as Tori – yes. And he’s still here. You know why? Because he does this because he cares for Ayla as does Tori."
Attacks IN Tori's family? Sounds like a personal problem to me. Maybe if she got offline and started taking care of them they would quit attacking her?
And John is going thru the same attacks as Tori? Again, get off the freaking internet and pay attention to them!
And no, Tori hasn't asked for any thanks, only money.
Lol my favorite part is that one of Jeff's circle jerk buddies gave obscure the email. If it wasn't sent to anyone else, there are very few people that could have forwarded the email. All of these people listed are in the circle jerk of trust...except one. :-)
ReplyDeleteGrace ?
DeleteGrace who is on the sent list posted it on her blog days ago
DeleteWhat is her blog ?
DeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
DeleteGrace, I mean Judass, a prior admin for Jeff gave it to Obscure.
DeleteA prior admin. for Jeff?....hummm, in a round about way, you're probably right.
DeleteFor me, I would need to see every detail about the so-called blood and how it was collected, tested and analyzed, and every detail about how the Luminol was used and applied, before I would conclude that there really was a significant amount of Ayla's blood in the basement.
ReplyDeleteI agree, Sherlock.
DeleteNo shit, Sherlock.
Delete(Sorry...I just wanted to say that. Seriously though, I agree.)
@Sherlock-I also agree!
Delete@Michelle-LOL :)
Same goes for me.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand for the life of me, how some people can just accept this "over a cupful" of Ayla's blood was found in the basement, next to Justin's bed, simply becasue Jeff says so.
Sorry, I was agreeing with Sherlock.
Delete@ S.
DeleteITA... Since the beginning anyone can say something and it gets rolled around until it becomes facts. Jeff knows this....he also knows because he has Trista in his pocket that what comes outta his mout is just about taken as fact the moment it comes out. Jeff is scary. Lies always sound better if you mix a dash of truth in there. He has his recipe down to a T over there. I avoid this type of person as soon as I hear their tails rattling.
Selena if anyone believes anything that rolls out of your mouth they are as crazy as you. I have been reading posts since the beginning and every time I read anything that you put out there is it full of crap. . you the aunt that had nothing to do with your family until something tragic like this happens. . . you are full of lies and so isn't the rest of your family. How can you torture a woman who lost her beloved child????? being a mother yourself. . . look at yourself, you are disgusting! Your "NEPHEW" your "SO-CALLED BLOOD RELATIVE" never wanted this precious baby! That has been proven. One of the three in that home hurt this child. . . so Selena if you know so much why don't you tell us who that would have been! I will say that the police know and as soon as they have a tight case we will all know and it will be you who will walk through life with a scarlet letter on your chest! JMO
DeleteAnon, and where was Jeff Hanson before Ayla went missing? Did HE know Ayla? Where were Ron and Becca Hanson when Trista and baby were staying at the Maine Motel?
DeleteI have not seen Selena state any information related to Ayla's disappearance as fact. (Jeff on the other hand.) She says what she knows, and speculates like everyone else. The reason you know that she hadn't seen her family for some time, and hadn't met Ayla, is because Selena freely said so.
Scarlet letter? Ridiculous.
@Anon - good try. Any woman who puts a man or drugs before her children is disgusting. No excuse for it. Why wasn't Trista clean and working to provide for her children? I've heard Jessica lost her kids for the same reason, oh and Mom, isn't she a pillhead too? I suppose when you are raised that way you don't know any better. Before you open your mouth, think about what you are saying.
DeleteAnon. below Selena,
DeleteYou proved her point so well.
@ Selena,
It didn't take me long to figure out just what kind of snake Jeff is. I think I've expressed my feelings concerning him before.
I have absolutely no respect for the man. None. I'm going to stop right there, becasue it just makes me so angry.
Scarlet letter? LMAO....You must've gone to the same school as Taylor Swift.
DeleteSo, how exactly is you coming here & stating facts about people you don't know at all, better than Selena speculating & offering her points of view about people she actually knows?
Families lose touch. Life happens, you lose track of time...next thing you know, you haven't seen branches of your family in years. Sometimes tragedy brings you back together. It doesn't mean you didn't care or think about them all those years, nor does it mean you aren't affected by that tragedy. It just happens. It's true in certain branches of my family. Get real.
"Families lose touch. Life happens, you lose track of time...next thing you know, you haven't seen branches of your family in years. Sometimes tragedy brings you back together. It doesn't mean you didn't care or think about them all those years, nor does it mean you aren't affected by that tragedy. It just happens. It's true in certain branches of my family. Get real."
DeleteThis statement should also apply to the Reynolds family, shouldn't it? You guys were bashing them for not being there for Trista, Ayla and Raymond before she went to rehab.
Just saying, fair is fair.
I have no problem saying that. It happens! However, they're all in the media & crap, insinuating that they're such a close knit family. Just speak the truth...like "we made mistakes, pushed each other away, but this has brought us back together."
DeleteI am not sure anyone is blaming anyone for not being there for Trista before she went to rehab. People were just pointing out the facts. That Trista was not allowed in her families home was perhaps significant because it showed that they believed she had some major issues they were not willing to put up with. And considering they have all had some major issues of their own I think that is saying a lot unfortunately.
Delete@ Anonymous19.7.12
DeleteTell me anon,why am I crazy in your eyes? What makes you think so? What have I put out there that is full of crap? Please use examples of my words and then leave a link. I dont have to talk about the case. I have told everyone here I cant help them with the facts...did you ,iss that in all the months that you have been reading? I'm not addressing the reasons for the "bad feelings" between the three of us, sisters again.
I am not torturing anyone. I am torturing Trista because I am looking at all scenarios that could possibly happen? How is that torturing her?? If this is torturing her than LE is doing the same damned thing. I dont think Trista hangs on every word I say...why should she? She believes AYLA is dead. Look at myself.I look in the mirror daily. I dont have a problem with what God gave me for an avatar... just how I have abused it.
"being a mother yourself. . . look at yourself, you are disgusting!"
You have no idea what kind of mother I am...You have no right to judge me as a mother. I have two children...now adults. I have never once in my parenthood been ashamed of my children. I have never lied to my children. I have never criticized others for their parenting skills. I now have two young adults that will listen to my advise, when they ask it. My two children have been the biggest blessing received in my lifetime.
Yes, Justin is my nephew...my blood nephew.You want to dispute that? Bring it...
...AYLA was taken from the house...so telling you who, aint happenin.The police dont know any more than you do, which is jack shit.Why? Because, like you, they think they know everything and this is where you both are screwing up...You dont know everything.You just assume...and ummmm I dont believe the scarlet letter has anything to do with what is going on here...That comment just made you look stupid...Tell me...why is it you hate me? Do tell!
Anyone want to know the name of Justin's other "supposed" baby mama?
ReplyDeleteShe has a Pinterest, is following Heidi Tudela, and has no boards for anything remotely for children. Interesting.
ReplyDeleteI never noticed how much Dominic and Ayla look alike!
ReplyDeletewow...
DeleteRight!? Shit stirrer. Drop and run. Glad all ignored.
DeleteThey look nothing alike. Well they do both have blonde hair and blue eyes and they are both beautiful babies.
Deletemckeekitty says:
ReplyDeleteJuly 19, 2012 at 2:51 pm
WAY OT: Is this blog really United for Ayla, or united for Trista? Are we allowed to ask the difficult questions, or is it like TTLOM where there has to be a stark and uncompromising bias?
I can understand, to a certain degree, why U4A is a target for criticism and ridicule on the other blogs, especially as of late. I notice that uncomfortable questions tend to go unanswered or otherwise passed over here.
Jeff and Tori…can you at least chime in and tell us that the offending email is in fact a fraud? You never penned it, right Jeff? Some clarity would go a long way. This is, afterall, your blog.
John P…I believe you and your account. However, I notice Laurie B. isn’t making a stink about the matter here or over at Ayla’s Angels. The email was allegedly sent to her as well. And I’m not seeing the other recipients of the offending email piping in to deny its existence. Not even Tori.
Now I find myself questioning the validity of the 911 tapes as described by Trista. DID Justin hang up on the 911 dispatcher?
If my questions are a blemish to the mission of United for Ayla, I will take my bow. But I just want ANSWERS and TRUTH for Ayla. If that means looking at LE funny, so be it. If that means looking at the admins at U4A, so be it.
I feel like I made “friends” here, and I don’t mean to come off as a bitch. I’m just being honest with some nagging concerns. Sorry to rock the boat, but I have to live with myself.
Bottom line…I believe the Dips are responsible for harming Ayla. But I question
Justice4Ayla says:
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For starters the email is not a fraud. I also remember Grace leaking this before the merge and remember the discussion about it. Trista was told my MSP not to let on they talked to her. They meant until the press conference aired. She misunderstood which was why she said she wasn’t told and her reaction to the news was overexagerated.
As far as Jeff sending the email out. He was giving a heads up to the admins of both sites and I don’t see anything wrong with the email nor does it make me question Jeff’s credibility. As far as Trista’s well that is on her.
U4A is technically MY blog even though I merged J4A with A4A. Jeff remains to post about vigils etc and news about Press Conferences. This blog never was intended to look at only one side or to be a blog for Trista. I expressed this early on. I do not think Trista is guilty and until there is evidence that shows me otherwise then I do not feel it neccessary to scrutinize her and cause her more pain than what she is already enduring by not knowing where her daughter is. Ayla’s blood wasn’t found at Trista’s home and police have not said she is not telling the truth. Why should Trista be made to answer the public’s questions when it in my opinion is established she is innocent but Justin doesn’t have to do the same?
As far as this blog becoming a “circus” no one is forcing anyone to read here and if the blog is a joke don’t read here. I don’t give a shit as to what is being said on other blogs and do not feel the need to defend myself for stuff written there. The purpose of this blog was for focus on Ayla not blog wars.
With folks questioning Jeff's credibility this is what Tori had to say:
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July 19, 2012 at 5:38 pm
I agree. The whole thing with Grace was a heck of a lot worse than we shared of you can believe it.
The only person who possibly could have their credibility looked at is Trista.
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REALLY???????
As well Tori stateded that Jeff was just expressing his *thoughts* in this email.
DeleteFrom the email...They told her because of.....
"They told her" is not expressing your thoughts.
It is implying that MSP said certain things to Trista.
Which I personally don't believe they said.
and now JohnP is agreeing with Tori, "Ultimately, I agree with Tori and others that feel this whole e-mail stupidity on(ly) reflects poorly on Trista for her reactions and on me for not researching it before I spoke out."
DeleteWTF? I know that Trista lies, but I believe she also sometimes misunderstands things. Jeff knows her, HE sent the damn e-mail, Trista didn't, even though he knew that Trista wasn't supposed to say anything until after the pc. Look how readily Tori and John can throw Trista under the bus. Frankly, I'm unreasonably offended for Trista's sake about this.
If supposedly Jeff can't tell whether Trista is being honest or has understood things correctly, why does HE pass these things off as fact? How many other "facts" are accurate? I thought their "mission" was to find truth and justice for Ayla and support her mother, not bolster Jeff. Why would HE think HE had the right to share confidential information with bloggers that Trista was not supposed to speak of?
DeleteDid someone say he's writing a book? :/
@the space between
DeleteTheir mission seems to have gotten off track!
A book, a movie, who knows what his intentions are. Why did he suddenly get involved in Trista's life?
signed:getrealpeople
mckee--- it's not united for ayla anymore. it's united for tori and jeff partners in sleeze. I wonder what these people are really cooking up behind the scenes. you kow LE monitors that site all the time. for sure they knew RIGHT AWAY about jeffi-leaks....
Deletepoor ayla .surrounded by scum in life and now in death.
Mothers do abduct their own children
ReplyDeletehttp://www.independentmail.com/news/2012/jul/19/two-year-old-haley-briggs-found-safe-north-carolin/
Pomerleau is an unusual name. John P said he was originally from Maine. I wonder if this sex offender Pomerleau is related to John P.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wgme.com/news/top-stories/stories/wgme_vid_12744.shtml
What state does John P live in now?
DeleteOh this is too fucking funny! I wonder if that is his daughter?
DeletePomerleau is a very common last name in Maine. Can we stick to the topic at hand please? I find this type of thing unnecessary.
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DeleteI'm sure he said he lives in Va. now
John is originally from Lewiston, ME and lives in Dover, NH now.
DeleteAs "S" says, he says he lives in Va.
Deletesigned:getrealpeople
POSSIBLY RELATED????
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John C Pomerleau is related to Jevon Pomerlean, who is 28 years old and lives in Culpeper, VA. John C Pomerleau is also related to Jessica Pomerleau, John ...
Former Maine teacher is sentenced for sex with student
Jessica Pomerleau gets seven years for gross sexual assault and unlawful furnishing of a drug.Child WAS 15, she xual encounter with him and furnished him alcohol and pot.
John is also some kind of teacher he says. could these 2 be related? INTERESTING. LET'S MAKE SUGGESTIVE REMARKS AND INSINUATIONS ABOUT HE AND HIS FAMILY AND SEE HOW HE LIKES IT.
His latest statement include such things as was phoebe a PROSTITUTE,was she redevous-ing with a MARRIED Man. Justin is a DRUG DEALER. State farm/tudelas are MONEY LAUNDERING....
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ReplyDeleteSorry Sherlock, in all fairness I deleted links to Courtney's family, so I have to delete this as well. I hope you understand!
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ReplyDeleteHey, anon, if you want to start your own blog, I say do it! But, why ask, "Who here will join my blog party?" How can anyone say when they haven't read one of your blogs?
DeleteI can tell you I will not join it. I will stick with Obscure. I know I can trust Obscure's site. She/he, also sticks with the facts, no BS here! Are you really a "dissenter" from U4A? (LOL)
P.S. You might want to think of a name, besides "generic" anonymous, before starting your site.
signed:getrealpeople
I think it's appalling that Tori forwarded private emails from Peter Hyatt to other people.I saw the emals on justiceforayla.dot.org He specifically asked her to keep his email addy confidential.Wait until he finds out. Talk about a betrayal of trust. She betrayed Peter and also the mother of Justins son who she promised would remain confidential. So confidential to her is to email the info to bloggers on the internt, people she never met in person. What the hell is up with this bitch. She is a top class a-hole.the whole website of hers is a security risk. that is why I never signed up for it. She plastered peoples emails, ip addresses etc on her page. First the leak from Jeff and now we see Tori is leaking like a sieve too.
ReplyDeletethis explains why she tryed to make the whistleblower grace out to be a nutjob, to discredit her.
Who wants to email Peter and let him know Tori is stabbing him in the back?
Deleteso peter betrays the doc to tori, tori betrays peter after she PROMISED TO KEEP HIS EMAIL CONFIDENTIAL, the baby boys mother WHO SHE PROMISED SHE WOULDNT REVEAL HER NAME TO ANYONE to peter and grace and who else? John? I bet THAT EMAIL didnt go into his spam folder. lmao what a crock. when you delete your spam folder you cant retrieve it 4 months later. thats quite a spin to wipe the egg off johnny face! He is such a liar.
DeleteTori's 'SOURCES' amount to a barrel of drunken monkeys.she is such a pompous idiot. wait till mckee finds out.she is the only one there maybe one otherwho isnt drinking the tori or jeff or trista says so so it must be true koolaid.
now it makes me wonder all the things attributed to trista if she even says half of them. is jeff making stuff up/ god I hope he isnt also planting physical evidence on top of cyber evidence ...
another question----is peter divulging ip addys to tory or jp of his posters?
Where can this e-mail be viewed?
Deletehttp://juststopthelies.blogspot.com/2012/07/behind-scenes.html
DeleteAm I understanding the email correctly, that Peter contacted the doctor in ER who looked at Ayla's ex ray for her broken arm or another doc who had access to her med records and got an opinion on the type of break? did Trista give permission? isnt this a violation of Hippa laws?
ReplyDeletei think jeff told peter it was ok to poke his nose in ayla's med records. trista doesnt talk to peter. does she know her stepfreak is pulling this crap behind her back . thanks to jeff, trista may not recieve any real updates on her baby from LE.wat right does tori or peter have to get their hands on such private info. neither are family members or investigators assigned to this case.
Deletewas jeff trying to help tori get the reward money so they coud split it?what about peter? john and the rest of them?
I sure am learning alot about some of the hinky crap that goes on.
DeleteQuestion, slightly OT...the tip submission section on aylareynolds.com...does anyone know where the tips go? Do they go directly to LE, or do they go to Jeff first?
Deletethey go to jeff and he emails them to all his internet friends who call in the tips to try and collect the 30k. well that farce is over. I think , tori, john and others have been calling in the tips.
DeleteYep, the emails for tips say they go to aylareynolds.com
DeleteThanks iceberg and S. It certainly makes a person wonder. What if they think a tip has no merit? Do they forward it anyway?
Deletemore questions,
DeleteI hope sp.
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ReplyDeleteso this is interesting..I got the name of justins sons mom from graces page so i google the mom and see her pininterest pge and ummm, she is following heidi tudela. so while hat whole clan was making comments about trista having 2 kids, well heidi knows justin has 2 also and has she asked this mom if she needs LIFE INS? I thought this mom wanted nothing to do with justin. DOESNT LOOK THAT WAY TO ME! hmmm another twist i may need to ponder. so Derek knew about this as well. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. unless this girl just sent a friend requst to heidi to keep an eye on things...the PLOT THICKENS.. the baby boy sure is cute though...
Is it possible that justin was served with child support orders from his baby boy mama and that could be the cause of his snap and hurting ayla?
"Is it possible that justin was served with child support orders from his baby boy mama and that could be the cause of his snap and hurting ayla?"
DeleteSuch a thought has never entered my mind. Frankly I don't understand why paying child supoort for 2 children would cause someone to "snap" and hurt their child. I know several people who pay child support for 2 children, some more. They have never snapped and hurt their children.
No, but paying child support on two children certainly might make you take custody of one who was in an abusive situation as Selena claims, move into your loving mother and sister's house, go back to school to get a decent job, start dating a college student instead of a low-life loser, and start cleaning your act up by taking the advice of your obviously successful best friend and maybe even buy a life insurance policy or two, ya think?
DeleteAnon. above me.
DeleteThat sounds much more reasonable to me. I think Justin was maturing and starting to take his responsibilities more seriously.
@Anon above
DeleteI can answer your question. It is not possible that Justin was served child support orders and snapped and hurt Ayla. For many reasons that is not possible. But for one very obvious reason. Just look at the timing. If he WAS served with orders to take a paternity test it was long after Ayla went missing.
@Anon above
DeleteI can answer your question. No it is not possible Justin snapped and hurt Ayla. Just look at the timing. If he WAS served with a paternity test it was long after Ayla went missing.
Have you looked at all of the other friend requests Heidi has received during this time? I imagine quite a few.
DeleteAnd why would this person want nothing to do Justin. I did a little research. I am not seeing that rumor. Where do you see that? Seems they were former boyfriend and girlfriend and are still on good terms.
would someone be so kind as to post Peter Hyatt's official job title?
ReplyDeleteTIA
Districts 6, 7/Region III (Piscataquis, Penobscot, Washington & Hancock Counties)
DeletePeter Hyatt, DHHS APS Investigator
His wife
Districts 6, 7, 8/Region III (Aroostook County, parts of Penobscot and Washington Counties),
Heather Hyatt, DHHS APS Investigator
http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/OACPDS/DS/APS/staff.html
Jackasses4Ayla are confused why Justin is not paying Trista child support since Ayla went missing.
ReplyDelete(don't know if it is true or not, but i hope that it is!)
they want to know why not and can't come up with an answer, even with all their combined brainpower.
here is a hint:
giving Trista child support money without a child to support is like handing the keys to the liquor cabinet to a drunk.
someone over there also wondered why Trista did nothing to reclaim Ayla for 2 months following rehab. same answer.
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oh and to the one lunatic wailing Ayla still needs a home to return to?
Ayla HAS a home on Violette Avenue. with a yard and good people for neighbors.
when Trista DID receive child support where was Ayla's home exactly..do tell.
and do tell us about Ayla's charming neighbors, oopsie i should say transients who were hooking or doping in the rooms on either side of her.
we would love to speak to them!
there are still plenty of vacancies at the Maine Motel if you are worried Ayla's home with Trista might be booked solid when she is found.
be sure to make her homecoming reservation for her old room 666, i'm certain she has oodles of wonderful memories of the place.
hang tight Selena. {{{hugs}}} ....the wheels are falling off the bus.
any money retrieved from justin for child support arrears should go to the welfare department/taxpayers to pay back the benefits trista used while she had ayla.MAINECARE medical,foodstamps,housing,WIC,TANF etc etc. tell that girl to get off her fat ass and get ajob like the rest of us. people have a lot of nerve pumping out kids with no means to support them. 1 can be a birth control failure, but 2? just irresponsible.dint shebang that ray fortier guy right before he went to prison ad got preg?
DeleteWOW. I need to pump out some kids
People in Household, Maximum Monthly Allotment. 1, $ 200. 2, $ 367.
526x12=$6313 yr just in food benefits!! not including WIC...I would live high off the hog and sell some benefits to friends so I can get the cash and useit for ciggies and scotch!!
WIC-
WIC participants receive checks or vouchers to purchase specific foods each month that are designed to supplement their diets with specific nutrients that benefit WIC's target population
Although we do have income guidelines for our supplemental food assistance, you might be surprised who qualifies. A family of four can earn more than $40,000 a year.
Just a note since it was brought up. Several of the "appointments" that Trista complains about Justin missing are WIC appts. Trista told Justin he could take her to WIC in WTVL and Justin told Trista he did not need WIC so he would not be taking her. He would make sure that Ayla had food.
DeleteLast I heard Justin was making payments. He will do what the state tells him he is supposed to do for Ayla just as he did before because when Ayla comes home he wants to have done the right thing by Ayla and the state. Justin's main focus in this has always been Ayla and so it will remain.
Deletenote-Ayla lived in kennebec county. trista lives in cumberland county.both are out of peters assigned region.
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District/Regional Staff Contact Numbers
- OACPDS - DS Adult Protection Services ...www.maine.gov/dhhs/OACPDS/DS/APS/staff.
Districts 6, 7/Region III (Piscataquis, Penobscot, Washington & Hancock Counties)
Peter Hyatt, DHHS APS Investigator
176 Hogan Road
Bangor, Maine 04401
Tel: 207-941-4390 or 1-800-963-9491,
FAX: 207-941-4389
The Adult Protective Unit of the Department of Health and Human Services has the responsibility to investigate allegations of abuse, neglect and exploitation of persons with intellectual disabilities. Policies regarding Reportable Events and Adult Protection as well as procedures regarding Reportable Events are available below. These policies and procedures became effective on September 15th, 2003. Seven APS Investigators are available statewide.
by the way-this is all PUBLIC INFO readily available on the internet.
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ReplyDeleteJuly 20, 2012 at 8:59 pm
. My first thought was a trist with a married man! Maybe at the Comfort Inn, IDK but it was something she did not want her children and grandchildren seeing!
John P says:
July 20, 2012 at 9:09 am
Dereck is deeper than just back dating the policy! What if Dereck was either a purchaser from Justin or even maybe dealing a little with Justin. I have a hard time seeing Heidi placing her family so deep into this for a simple fraudulent police. He would lose his license and pay a fine, so what. There is much more to it than just a fraudulent policy.
John P says:
July 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm
. No unemployed person living in mummies basement with regular monthly bills could possibly maintain that type of policy, unless you and the agent work something a little shady out. If there is a policy on him, I suspect it was for laundering.
John P says:
July 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm The LIP has meaning but what is it? I believe it was laundering for the simple fact there are now 2 policies!
re: above "My first thought was a trist with a married man! Maybe at the Comfort Inn, IDK but it was something she did not want her children and grandchildren seeing!"
DeleteMy thought about that is that Phoebe was a single mom of 3 kids, now grown up, she works fulltime, she's in her late 40s or early 50s - when there's 3 young adults and 3 young children in her home on a Friday night, why wouldn't she sometimes want to hang out with a friend/date/whoever and relax for the evening/weekend? I highly doubt that's the first such evening she was away from the house. (Futhermore, if she had a date, why would she bring the date home to a house full of people?) I don't know that as fact, but it seems logical to me. I don't find it suspicious at all.
My first thought was that maybe she had a second job cleaning offices or bartending or something. My second thought was the same as yours, space. Either way, neither one of us took the same leap that John did. What was that my Grandma used to say about a fox smelling his own hole? Nevermind
DeleteI find most of the logic over there akin to following a fart on the wind. Money laundering? Where is the evidence that Justin is a drug dealer? What small time drug dealer launders money anyway? What big time drug dealer would use a piss-ant insurance policy to launder money? And out of curiosity, why does John think it's perfectly okay for him to have policies on his grandchildren, but Justin is a deadbeat, drug dealing, money laundering, baby killer for the same reason? Is it because he can't figure out how Justin could pay for it? Has he really never heard of someone having money in savings?
oh-I forgot to address the Tudela connection. Is it really so hard to believe that maybe the Tudelas are just good people? If you find that impossible to believe, maybe it's time you get some new friends.
Deleteoh, thank you, more questions - agreed, agreed, agreed, etc.
DeleteI have never understood the money laundering thing either, admittedly I didn't read about it because I find it a stupid idea. Who needs to launder money through their insurance premiums? We pay $200 a month for 2 autos and home insurance, I don't know if Justin's payments were even that high. So, seriously? Inane. Part of the problem is they take every single thing he does/doesn't do or says/doesn't say and try to come up with evil/covert reasons for him doing so. Every. Single. Thing. This they deem as "working for Ayla" when in actuality they are working for Jeff. Not Ayla. Not Trista. But Jeff. I am still appalled that Tori and John were so quick to throw a "grieving mother" under the bus to support Jeff Hanson sending that email. It's not about truth over there so much as it's about bullshit and imagination.
more questions - re: Tudelas, agreed again. They stand beside their friends and support them in their darkest hours, taking heavy criticism and speculation for doing so. Are the people who accuse them doing so because they know they themselves would never have what it takes to stand up for a friend they believe in if public sentiment was against them? I swear, some peoples take on things baffles me. Like the idea they have floating around that everyone is covering for everyone and they're all implicated - and that Justin murdered Ayla and called Derek, what was that conversation like? "oh, hey, I got a little favor to ask - could you come over here with some trash bags and bleach?" Did you see the photoshopped pic at A4A that showed Justin and Derek in a basement with a box of trash bags, and various other items? Disgusting. Thank goodness they are so keen on respecting Ayla.
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