Trista was so busy pretending and sticking to her script, that she didn't realize MSP had blew her cover. Is anyone else concerned that instead of just saying "No, they never contacted me," Trista made up what I would call an alibi? Very detailed...hmmm She wasn't at appointments all day, because according to Jeff, she was home at 11:30.
Reporter: They said that they, um, tried to contact you. Were you told not to say anything, or--
Trista: I haven't, um, I was actually in meetings all day today. I had appointments all day, so I don't know if, like, they called. They could've, but I just, I've been busy with my son all day, like, he's had his own doctors appointments all day today, so I kinda wasn't even near a phone. Yeah, just like you "kinda weren't even near Waterville." Hellllllo!
Please review the video for yourself. You will be surprised at the deception displayed by the Reynolds' family.
Back to the drawing board. That explanation is half-assed, and all it does is continue to erode Trista's credibility. Why LIE about something so easily proven? Why call MSP liars in the process? Where is Ayla?
While I have you here, I would also like to say that the newest "Alive Across America" initiative for Ayla is ironic, considering everyone over there believes she's "Dead in Waterville." TLLOM was criticized for getting billboards up all over the world...but hey!
John P...take care of yourself. Being a renegade and blogging against your doctor's orders could be detrimental to your health!
That's all folks!
Edit 1: The minimizing, justifying, and mischaracterizing of Trista's lie continues. Trista could tell these people anything (via Jeffrey, of course) and they would eat it right up. SMH @ the brainless drones.
Jeff says "Not fully understanding the small deception to not inform the media before the press conference, Trista continued the deception".
ReplyDeleteConsidering Trista is very vocal in the media, why not set things straight and inform them of this misunderstanding? My guess would be that it seems that Trista is unaware of half the arguments regarding her in the blogosphere.
If that is the case then it would be better for Jeff to ignore other people's opinions rather than adding fuel to the fire by "providing excuses" for his step-daughter. To me, this more reflects on his behavior and the kind of example he provides to those around him (including Trista).
This is true.
DeleteAlso, "the small deception" was not something that MSP asked Trista to do. They asked her not to discuss the conversation. Trista could have done that without lying or using deception. She could have said, yes I've been contacted, but I have to respectfully decline to discuss what I was told. Right? Surely the media would understand.
It would be my assumption that Trista doesn't practice the skill of forethought. She might have "foreseen" some of the outcomes and how it put her in a negative light if she had. Lying on the other hand looks far more appealing because of its ease of use, till things get more complicated.
DeleteWhat I'm saying is that she made her faux pas and could easily clear it up. I recall that Jeff mentioned that Trista reads the blogs, even if she doesn't I would think that Jeff keeps her updated on the latest. Conveniently though, she pulls a "Justin" and keeps silent. Talk about the devil handing out scapulars!
I reviewed the tape again. And I am always amazed no matter how many times I watch Trista at how she comes across. Watch her when the reporter asks her about being phoned by MSP. Not once does Trista look at the camera. She looks everywhere but. The ceiling in circles wth?
DeleteAnd she seems annoyed when answering. If you really look at Trista's interviews you can get a true peek into her personalty. She has quite a few traits that she can not quite keep from coming through at times.
Trista lied, plain and simple. She is such a good actress because lying is second nature to her. They say that substance abusers/druggies excel at that.
ReplyDeleteYet according to Jeffrey, Trista cannot tell a lie. In the 18 years he has known her, she has not told one lie to anybody that he knows. Mind you, she lied to Justin about Ayla and she's lied numerous times throughout this case.
Delete18 years would include her teenage years. I definitely call BS on that.
I believe jeff has mentally and emotionally(etc) abused Trista her whole life. that low self esteem came from somewhere...
DeleteObscure, there is a far better video of this scene, where the angle of the camera is straight from the front instead of from overhead. It might be on the Bangor Daily News site. But that video shows the acting in stunning detail.
ReplyDeleteI tried the Bangor News video, and it just wouldn't load. I've seen the complete acting job, and I hope everyone else has too. I needed this video to show Trista's interview where she lied though. I wish I could find a link to the full interview (after the press conference).
DeleteIf you come across it, please link it! Thanks...
Can't find the one your after, but here's a selection of media perspectives regarding the case.
Deletehttp://foxnewsinsider.com/search/?cx=002884789689963066941%3Akj9cbo5t-9g&cof=FORID%3A10%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&q=ayla+reynolds
http://www.wlbz2.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=202370
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/12/20/what-could-lead-police-to-missing-maine-toddler-ayla-reynolds/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/31/police-unlikely-maine-tot-ayla-reynolds-is-alive/
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/31/news/mid-maine/police-highly-unlikely-ayla-reynolds-will-be-found-alive/
Thanks!
DeleteWho cares if she knew beforehand. . . what I see in this video is a distraught mother who recently found out that her baby girl is most likely dead. . .how else would a mother react. .. who cares whether she heard before or not. . .I'm not getting what the big deal is here. . . . what was daddy's reaction??????????????? thats what you should be looking at. JUSTIN WHAT DID YOU DO TO THAT PRECIOUS CHILD????????? WHERE IS BABY AYLA, SHE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT HOME TO HER LOVING MOTHER!!!!!!!!!! HAVE A HEART FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!
Delete@Anonymous
DeleteHow else a mother would react is that she would have hope that her child is alive. And with honesty. Not with a fake reaction staged for the public hours after receiving the exact same news. And further more how was this news so disturbing? Trista is the only one who makes it out as though she is being told her daughter is dead. That is not what she is being told. She is not being told anything more than what she herself has been saying for months at that time that LE does not hold out much hope that Ayla is alive. And Trista had been telling us that she had not been holding out hope for months already and that was based on what LE had been telling her. So again why the dramatic reaction?
I tried to post a comment, not sure if it went through.
ReplyDeleteHere? or there?
DeleteI've posted everything that was awaiting moderation...
It was here - I got a weird screen after clicking publish.
Deletere: Jeff's post - He said "one of Ayla's detectives" called and talked to Trista. I thought for sure McCausland said he, himself, talked to both Trista and Justin - and that's how he was able to describe how they responded?
re: Jeff's statement - "She was also told not to tell anyone outside the family about the conversation. Trista and her Mom were still crying when I stopped home for lunch at 12:15. I was filled in on events..." is this the part where he left out "and since MSP didn't specify that I couldn't tell anyone else, I went to my computer and emailed my blogger friends."
re: Trista's lie - I agree Obscure, it wasn't trying to avoid the question, it was spontaneously having a whole story to tell
@Luci - "My guess would be that it seems that Trista is unaware of half the arguments regarding her in the blogosphere." That seems like a good guess.
re: JohnP - he's being used over there and is entirely too obliging - but I guess that's his choice. What bothers me the most is that they all know how busy his life is and they know about his health. He told them his heart doctor wanted him to take a break from blogging because of his stress levels. Do you think anyone would step in and take over moderating their own blog so John wouldn't feel like he had to because no one else is? They KNOW he's not supposed to be doing it, but they do nothing. That alone speaks volumes to me.
Just saw PB's comment added above - Phoebe did not make up a story, she was obviously trying to skirt the questioning and what few comments she made like "it was a normal night" and "there was no party" I'm sure are things that she felt were true.
Delete@ Really?,
DeleteJust my opinion of course, but I suspect that
JohnP is very willingly, happily, and quite pleased to be doing the moderating.
However, I do understand your point.
S, I certainly agree that he loves what he's doing. He's not smart enough to heed his doctor's advice. Misplaced loyalty? Dogged determination? Attention? Whatever his reasoning, we've all seen if he's not there doing it, it's not getting done. I get that he's an adult and can make his own choices, but seriously, it's time for someone to "blogger up" so he feels like he CAN take a break. He's not my favorite person, but I'm concerned about him. I believe he's done a lot for Jeff and Tori and they're just letting him keep it up knowing full-well he shouldn't. Self-serving!
DeleteWould a doctor really tell you to stop blogging because it's going to cause you to have a heart attack?
DeleteI ask that seriously. I'm relatively young and healthy, so I haven't gotten to the age/health status where I have restrictions on my activities (thank God). Maybe someone can answer this for me???
Why would it cause a heart attack? Why so stressed? To me if you know you are right and doing the right thing in life then you have nothing to be stressed about.
DeleteThat's what I'm wondering...they keep talking about the stress of the blog and how much work it is...but there's like 10-20 admin over there (exaggeration lol)...I don't get it...
Delete@ Obscure,
DeleteI'd say perhaps a Dr. might tell you to stop blogging, IF, a patient relayed to his or her Dr. that blogging was causing him or her a lot of stress. That could cause issues with high blood pressure. I'd say a Dr. could or would say, well then duh, quit blogging.
@Really- your points about Phoebe's "lie" are right in line with my thinking on the matter. For months now I've been trying to figure out what she supposedly lied about. Is there another interview that I havent seen?
DeleteS - Especially if the spouse was there and said "he works all day then he blogs all night." Agreed about the high bp.
Deletehttp://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/stress-heart-attack-risk
"After a first heart attack, the risk of another heart attack increases two- or three-fold."
Delete"If stress is a factor in your life, it can increase your blood pressure, increase your heart rate, and make your heart disease worse. If you are under stress from work or home, get advice on stress reduction techniques or see a counselor for suggestions on how you can reduce your stress or change your response to stressful situations."
from http://www.yalemedicalgroup.org/stw/Page.asp?PageID=STW000664
John P is a cry baby whimp. The heart shit may be very real but he likes attention and someone to say..." Oh look how much he suffers to stand up for AYLA. John your a whimp! Stop boo hooing and deal with it. What? You dont think I have a right to say anything? lol. You would be dead wrong. I have every right.
DeleteWhile I agree with all you said Selena, that doesn't negate my thought that Tori and Jeff are self-serving and thoughtless for allowing it to continue.
DeleteSo true, Selena. Martyrdom. That's what he's gunning for.
DeleteGotta say, if my child ever goes missing I hope like hell there is a martyr out there willing to give up a crapload of their time and energy looking for her. I wouldn't even care how much glory they got, if even one little thing they did helped to find her. I would even appreciate someone hanging billboards form behind the scenes.
Delete@ Selena you are the blog whore who is taking advantage of a missing baby you never knew to get everyone's sympathy. . . . You should have kept it low key from the beginning instead of putting yourself out there like you know what happened in that horror house that night. . . . . why would anyone feel sympathy for a person who is defending a family that harmed a little baby? Your one to talk about John P. at least he is actually doing something to help find Ayla. . . I feel so bad for Trista, I can't even imagine losing a baby. . . Do I feel bad for Justin????? No, he has had his chance to prove his innocents and has done nothing but hide. . .
DeleteThanks for that perspective, Charlie. I'm sure that's true, but you probably wouldn't really want someone going against doctor's advice and risking their own health to do so.
DeleteJOhn P. is supposedly the one going against doctors orders, and I was referring to Jeff (per the martyr comments above). But guess what, and maybe I'm going to hell for saying this, my kid is missing I'm not thinking about anyone else's health issues. If my kid was missing, I would be ecstatic to have John P., Jeff, even Obscure on my side if it would help find her. Of course I'd also be doing at least 50% the amount of work as them to try and locate my own daughter.
DeleteCharlie - re: the martyr comments above, "more questions" was responding to Selena who was talking about JohnP.
DeleteI know we don't actually know what we would do in that situation, and we may want someone putting in that effort, but I believe I wouldn't want someone to give themselves a heart attack and die doing so. The guilt would be huge. BUT, it's not Trista that is using JohnP - it is Jeff and Tori. The blog is theirs, and they should care more about JohnP as a person and be grateful for all he's done for them - and not left him in the dark trying to work that thing by himself with occasional help from T4A while he's got a job, a wife, grandkids he sees, and is trying to heal from a heart condition. I guess I feel they are using him and it seems they have no intention of trying to ease the burden he's bearing.
@ Space - I read that wrong then, about John vs. Jeff. IN any case I completely agree with you; John P has gone far above and beyond in a an attempt to keep Ayla's name out there. He's done an outstanding job, and of course I would not wish HIM ill health in doing so. Wouldn't wish it on anyone, just wouldn't be top on my list of worries if my daughter was missing. I don't know the full situation of extent of what is going on with that blog and with John, but I think you are the minority on this site as far as caring about John's well being. Nobody who truly cared would add him to their blog, even if it is only a p.s.
DeleteSo much bs. Where to begin? Oh yes, how about "She was also told not to tell anyone outside the family about the conversation." So, knowing this, Jeff thought it was ok to spread the inside scoop to all of his blogger buddies? I know this has been discussed before but seriously, WTF?
ReplyDeleteJeffrey is a hot mess. He should just shut up, because every time he opens his mouth, he inserts different people's feet. lol
DeleteLOL Obscure!
Deletehe's a real piece of work. so let me get this straight, he comes home for lunch @12;30 hears the 'top secret' news from Trista, and because he 'cares' so much, he blows her off while she sits there upset, and instead runs to the computor to let his blog slaves in on the 'top secret' news. then the press shows up at 12:45, press conf @1pm.So his FIRST PRIORITY was his blog slaves, most of which were anon COMPLETE STRANGERS....hmmm interesting. WTF is going on here ? Jeffie has an agenda, but it sure as hell isnt helping Trista. What a disrespectful A-HOLE. He treats her like dirt, no wonder she is hitting the hooch .
Deleteohhhh, and it was OBVIOUS his blog wifey Tori wrote that whole bogus piece 'addressing concerns, but not really blah blah blah...'for him using the same pic of a witch she used for her grace/elizabeth nonsense.
DeleteYes, Obscure. I am very concerned that Trista produced an alibi. A very elaborate one, on the fly, without....like, breaking a sweat, you know? Like, um, actually, I think I've like, heard her um kinda talk like that once or twice before.
ReplyDeleteHMMMM...
DeleteSILENCE!!!!
Delete"That explanation is half-assed, and all it does is continue to erode Trista's credibility"
ReplyDeleteThat about says it all.
S. - I agree about Trista's credibility; however, Jeff also blames Trista when he does/says something wrong.
DeleteAs far as Purple Butterflies, she couldn't be more wrong.
ReplyDeleteTrista's lie didn't occur in the mist of the press PC. The PC was over.
Trista had returned to the room AFTER the PC. AFTER supposedly composing herself.
I agree S...purple butterflies has rocks in her head. I love how she justifies Trista's lies in comparison to Phoebe's. I couldn't possibly imagine how anyone would handle being in a situation like that when its all new and surreal.
DeleteWhat people forget is that if Phoebe felt guilty about lying (as directed by LE) then how would she feel about her missing granddaughter? At least she had the decency to correct herself...
@Luci-that's an awesome point. If a cagey interview had her wracked with guilt, we're supposed to believe that she could cover up a crime and feel nothing?
DeleteYet we see Trista did it with ease. She never went on the record to correct her lie. Jeffrey is trying to do that now, but its too little, too late.
DeleteTrista got her vocal cords ripped out and replaced with Jeff's balls..
DeleteWhat did Justin have to say about the press conference or since then? Or even the nearly two months before? He doesn't seem to be too interested in keeping his daughter's name and face out there. And don't give me that TTLOM billboard bullshit. People don't randomly kidnap kids all ninja-like from Waterville, ME and bring them to Spokane.
ReplyDeleteValid question and points.
DeleteI, however, would prefer to see no reaction than a staged one.
I would rather hear nothing, than to hear lies.
You can call BS all you want but that fact still remains that the billboards are not BS and unlike some of Trista's clear BS. And neither are the thousands of flyers being mailed all across the country to airports, bus stations, clinics, doctors offices, Walmarts, Targets, convenience stores, gas stations, electric companies, gas companies, you name it is being thought of and flyers are being sent. And yes Justin and his family are helping right along side the rest of the volunteers. And that is just a part of what he is doing. So call BS all you want. Does not change the fact that he IS getting his daughters name out there.
DeleteAnd I don't know what planet you are from but sadly here on this planet children ARE kidnapped many times without a trace. Which is why we have so many unsolved cases in the US. Look it up.
And Waterville ME is not exempt from crimes. It is not some made up fairy tale land where nothing bad can ever happen. A child can be kidnapped from any town and any place.
As I see it...Trista is taking very good care of the television media and getting AYLA'S name out there and Justin is covering the rest of media with TLLOM. I see both parents working to keep AYLA'S name out there.As I said before...you want to help? They need postage stamps...and again...you know the address. SEND NO MONEY...postage stamps.They are sending out "awareness packages", flyers to bus stations, train stations, airlines, town offices,post offices and the list goes on.
DeleteYeah Selena like anyone would believe one word that comes out of your lying mouth. . . . at the beginning of all this your colors came out and now you are all like "both parents are doing what blah, blah, blah," Justin is doing nothing except for praying that they don't find Ayla and that he is not brought to justice. . .. . He will have his day in court hopefully sooner rather than later!
DeleteObscure how much of the $25000.00 insurance do you get if Justin doesn't get charged with Ayla's demise?
ReplyDeleteYou're on the wrong blog for money discussions. Fortunately, I can pay all of my own bills. I'm a big girl now!!! ;)
Deleteanon - seriously? 25k isn't enough money to motivate anyone to do something so heinous. When you divvy it up amongst everyone that's been accused of being in on it they'd be lucky if they could fill their gas tank twice with the proceeds.
DeleteI don't understand people thinking 25k is so much money. It really isn't. Think of all the things 25k can buy. A cheap new car and that's about it. If that's the only motive then you are crazy.
DeleteRight?!
DeleteAs if someone commits murder and risks everything for that amount of money. If you are that conniving then wouldn't you buy a much larger ins policy?
Obscure actually I was surprised you posted what I said. I just had to try to get a rise out of you. They say on other blogs that Justin isn't doing anything to keep Aylas name out there, but on this blog they say he is. Can you say from your own personal knowledge that he is?
ReplyDeleteAlways 2 steps ahead.
DeleteI can say, without a doubt, that Justin is helping to get and keep Ayla's name out there. He may not be doing so in front of the cameras, but that's fine. The backstage crew is just as important as the all-star cast!
"The backstage crew is just as important as the all-star cast!"
DeleteWell-said!!!
So Obscure how do you KNOW that Justin is doing his part. . . . you must know someone personally to be SURE that what is being said is true. Please enlighten me on where you get your SURE information.
DeleteWait I thought on the other post you said unequivocally you do not have connections with the Dipietro family at all?? That is literally the only way you could know for sure, without a doubt, he is or is not doing something. Actually the only way for sure, without a doubt, would be to hear it directly from him (we already concluded on this blog that second hand info doesn't count). How is this possible?
DeleteThank you for your honesty obscure.
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ReplyDeletexD
Deleteseriously, grow up people....your saying it's staged, he's saying it wasn't because of lack of communication....it's ALL hear say....WHO CARES???!? you are making a HUGE deal out of nothing.... and the statement where you would rather have a person that last saw his daughter be Silent instead of something being "staged" on CAMERA is absolutely ridiculous!! lmao....
ReplyDeleteIt was a performance. Why are you acting, when your child is missing?
DeleteObscure you are running around in circles. .. her grief was not staged. . .. . you are blind if you are saying that this woman is not totally devastated at the news she recently heard about the LE believing that her precious child will not be found alive. . . Im not getting your thinking process at all.
DeleteWhether Trista knew beforehand or not does not matter. What I see is a person who is overridden with grief of the loss of her precious daughter. It doesn't matter when or how many times she was told she will react the same way every time grief stricken! Obviously your not a mother Obscure because if you were you would feel this woman's pain. How dare you judge how she is grieving. You are pathetic! And Justin is a coward! A man who does not stand up for his daughter is a coward! May he rot in jail!
ReplyDeleteI agree anon 12:01! Obscure is not a mother, IT IS THE DEVIL!!!!!
DeleteI don't feel her pain, and I don't look at her and see the same things that you do.
DeleteYou telling me I'm not a mother, or a parent, wouldn't change anything.
Anon. 12:01
DeleteThe point of this post is not Trista's grief. The point is to show how easily and nonchalantly Trista lied. The point is she lied, for whatever reason.
Jeff has stated in the past, more than once, that Trista can NOT lie. According to him, that's the reason she couldn't take or finish a polygraph test.
If Jeff doesn't like certain things pointed out, then he should just shut up, because again & again he hurts her credibility.
I am a mother and I can tell you with absolute certainty that there is no way, none, 0, that the press would have been in my home to film me in that situation.
Can I ask, if you believe that no one has the right to judge Trista, and how she grieves, how then do you justify judging Justin and how he deals with his missing daughter??
You guys constantly bring up good points. Jeffrey emphatically stated that Trista CANNOT lie, but he created a post to defend her LIES. He didn't call them lies though, he prefers the term "small deception."
DeleteMaybe by saying she can't tell lies he meant tell them and get away with it. So he just doesn't think she would be capable of pulling one off but not necessarily that she wouldn't try.
DeleteEven if I wasn't a mother I would feel the pain of a person whose child was missing and the father of that child is saying nothing. How terrible that you don't have apathy for her situation, that sure says a lot about you. Almost makes me think that you have to be a really awful person. JMO
DeleteThe father of that child has said a lot. Nobody seems to remember the times he has spoken. Everyone seems to be more interested in the mother's drama. The father just wants his daughter home and believes she is alive. But people do not want to hear that from him sadly.
DeleteThe father hasn't said shit considering he was the one with others that were in that house of horrors whatever night something awful happened to Ayla (whether accidental or not). . . he should be answering some questions. . . . . WHAT HAPPENED TO AYLA TO MAKE HER BLEED THE WAY SHE DID? WHY DID YOU NOT CHECK ON HER BEFORE YOU WENT TO BED. . .ALL GOOD PARENTS PEEK IN ON THEIR CHILD BEFORE THEY GO TO BED. .. . WHY WAS SHE UPSTAIRS BY HERSELF WHILE YOU SLEPT WITH YOUR GF AND HER SON???? None of that stuff makes any sense to me. . can someone enlighten me?
DeleteHow exactly is Trista standing up for her daughter? By doing interview after interview where she ends by saying I just need closure for my dead daughter? At least the times that Justin HAS spoken, and he has, he stands up for his belief that Ayla is alive and should be looked for.
DeleteQuality over quantity I say. I will take that any day.
Made her bleed the way she did?? How is that? Ayla did not bleed that night. The only blood found in that house proven to be Ayla's is a few drops. That is not proven to be from that night. And Ayla actually was checked on before they went to bed. And Ayla slept in her own bedroom which she shared with her cousin. Her cousin just was sleeping with her aunt that night as once in a while happens and that was just across the hall. Where if Ayla or her cousin made a noise they would be heard. But if a child makes no sound there is no noise to be heard. So you tell me who came into that house and took that baby out so quietly? Who was she so comfortable with? Enlighten me.
DeleteI personally wouldn't believe anything either of those two say. Each has their own reason for lying.... I would rather focus on what LE HAS said. Anyone on here want to do a recap of what LE HAS said???? I believe they are closer to the truth than any blogs.
ReplyDeleteThat has been done on this blog, and at others---objectively.
DeleteLE has released very little information; most of what we know is from Trista/Jeff's mouth.
It is very obvious to a sane person that LE has way more evidence to point the finger at someone in that horror house. . . give me a break if they thought Trista was involved in anyway we would know it. justin WHERE IS AYLA? BE A MAN FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. PUT AN END TO TRISTA'S SUFFERING. WHAT A MONSTER YOU ARE! A WASTE OF SKIN IN MY OPINION!
DeleteFunny to me that anyone can judge whether Justin gives a shit about Trista. What exactly has he done to her? He has not bashed her in public. Told people her dirty little family secrets. Trista on the other hand calls him a murderer without evidence, an abuser in one breath and her " co parent" in the next. Trista in my opinion is the one who does not give a shit about Justin. Or maybe as a wise person once told me a love scorned is one of the strongest angers.
Deletethe fact that Justin didn't not call Trista first that "morning he woke up to find his baby girl gone" (right)tells me a lot about Justin, what a coward!
DeleteSeems to me Trista was hard to find and hard to reach that morning tells me a lot...
DeleteExactly, Anon 20:45! Why do people not understand the potential significance of this!!!
DeleteMSP already knows what happened, they are waiting for more evidence. The DA needs just a lil bit more to prove thier case, (they are almost there) they want to make sure this does not turn out like the Casey Anthony trial, they want as much eveidence as they can find. They just need one more piece of the puzzle! stay tuned!
ReplyDeleteFalse.
DeleteLie.
Untruth.
If it's taken them 7 months of WAITING for evidence, then the whole agency should be shut down for incompetence.
They should be able to build a solid case based off the things they have: searches, evidence gathered, the passage of time.
Or are those things only enough to say that Ayla is dead?
We've been waiting, we've been listening to the claims of "imminent arrests" for months.
Put up, or shut up.
I think the reason the DA/AG or whomever is holding off is because although they believe Ayla is dead, they don't know how so they don't know who. There is too much reasonable doubt, and with the life insurance twist, it is too risky to take before a jury. They have be able to "prove it" as Justin says. In my opinion they only thing they can prove at this point is Ayla is dead, and what good would that do? It wouldn't convict any of the Waterville 3.
DeleteYou all spend so much time on useless trivia that you are missing some clues that are right in front of your faces. Anon 13:38 You got it.
DeleteThink about the actual case rather than your tunel vision directed on Trista and her imperfections .
If this were the case why would they not name a suspect. Doesn't make sense. They would name a suspect and try to offer one a deal for her location or something. It seems they just really arent sure of anything.
DeleteLE has no evidence that Ayla is dead at all.
Delete@ Anon 11:15 thats just stupid. . . . no evidence. . . . .your too funny, they have way more evidence then anyone knows.
DeleteRead what I said LE has NO evidence that Ayla is dead.
DeleteWhether they have evidence of anything else I do not know. But if LE had evidence of death they would have to share that with both parents.
If they have SOOOOO much evidence, why no arrests? Why no suspects? Why not even a person of interest? Why not just say Ayla IS dead?
DeleteSemantics? Hell no. Lack of evidence.
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DeleteFirst of all, IMO you must not have any knowledge of how the criminal justice system works, or how DA's build thier cases. lol. It is evident that they found evidence of foul play and have direct knowledge that Ayla is no longer here on earth, it is to hard these days to try cases with no body, It is to big of a risk! They have found several items during thier searches, that they are NOT going to share with ANYONE! It is obvious that they are keeping everything close to the vest, you would know that if you had knowledge of how law enforcement works. They are not incompetent as a department, they are playing thier cards carefully, they have to, this is a well known case all across the country, they are making sure they have all thier ducks in a row (4) In my opinion why dont Justin Dipertro PUT UP OR SHUT UP, OR MAYBE YOU CAN!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteFoul play does not necessarily mean homicide--murder---or anything having to do with life or death. It could simply mean that a crime occurred; depending on how the term is employed in Maine, people could be making much ado about nothing.
DeleteHow are they playing their cards close, but at the same time allowing Trista to leak info? How does that work? Almost everything we know has come from the Reynolds family. If they have more, great, but it's looking like MSP is lost on this one.
If they are WAITING for more evidence, when they can already prove that Ayla is dead and one or all of the 3 killed her, then yes---they are INCOMPETENT.
You don't see Justin pushing for an arrest, or saying every other day that an arrest is imminent do you? So the put up or shut up wouldn't apply.
As for my knowledge of the criminal justice system, I just have to LOL at you. Google me. :)
Justin is not pushing for an arrest? Of course not, he's not ready to seal his fate.
DeleteYou can not push for an arrest when no crime has been established nor person who has committed it. And if Justin thought Ayla was dead he would I am sure push for an arrest. HE however believes she is alive and only wants her home safe more than anything.
DeleteWow, you're way too grown up for me!
ReplyDeleteYou are wrong, so of course, you have to take it back to your 3rd grade level. No real exchange, because you're not intelligent enough to participate. Instead of responding to anything I said logically, you had to respond like....your kind.
Take care.
Obscure did Justin really bolt from the police station when they showed him or told him about the blood found of Aylas?
ReplyDeleteNo, he did not bolt. That is a twisted and exaggerated story. No truth to it at all.
DeleteAnon - I know you were addressing Obscure; however, I wonder if you have a link that could tell us who that statement is attributed to? I searched and couldn't find it in any news source. Also, I wonder if Trista really did bolt from her polygraph exam?
ReplyDeleteExcerpt from Nancy Grace 1/30/12
GRACE: With me also psychologist Michelle Golland, from Dr. Michellemusings.com.
Doctor, thank you for being with us. What do you make of the dad when asked questions in public? He goes, yes, I`m not going to answer any of that. I`m just here showing support. How does that strike you? FYI, he is not a person of interest. He is not a suspect. Go ahead, Michelle.
MICHELLE GOLLAND, PSYCHOLOGIST, EXPERT ON MOMLOGIC.COM: You know, Nancy, I have to say, you may disagree with me on this. I have my suspicions also about the mother. I don`t like his attitude --
GRACE: She wasn`t there.
GOLLAND: -- is very suspicious. Well, but I have to say my concerns about her is, I`d like to ask the police chief, what was her medical condition that she ran out of a polygraph? Was that a panic attack?
GRACE: Let me ask you, just what difference does it make if she`s not a suspect, if she was nowhere near the scene, she can have rehab problems? For all I know she`s got an alcohol or drug problem. I don`t know what her problem is or if she even has a problem.
GOLLAND: Absolutely. I think she clearly has a problem.
GRACE: But what I care about is -- well, what difference does it make if she is not implicated?
GOLLAND: It makes -- Nancy, it -- well, he`s not a suspect either. I am trying --
GRACE: Yes, answer my question, please.
GOLLAND: Which question?
GRACE: The only one I asked you, which is if she was not on the scene and was living 40, 50 miles away and has an alibi for that night, why are people jumping on her rehab problem or her substance problem? It doesn`t matter. All that matters is where`s the baby.
GOLLAND: Absolutely. But we know that families who are struggling with drugs and alcohol and having and going to court and getting orders to take children away as well --
GRACE: Right. Right. Right.
GOLLAND: Also have issues.
GRACE: Issues, OK.
GOLLAND: I think we have to be very careful.
GRACE: Well, that is -- that is extremely vague and not much help. Frankly. I`m just, you know, telling you like it is no offense.
I want to go back -- I want to go back to Steve McCausland.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/30/ng.01.html
additional discussion from 1/24 re: polygraphs
ReplyDeleteGRACE: That`s Ayla`s mom on NBC`s "Today" show. She was referring to the specific questions that were asked of her during her polygraph. Cops say they got enough information, they`re satisfied with her answers, and they don`t even want to complete another polygraph.
OK, Woodrow Tripp, you`re the expert polygrapher, that says to me that they believe mommy, they don`t have any desire in polygraphing her again. And also, Woody, you and I know the facts, she was about 50 or 60 miles away at the time the baby goes missing.
WOODROW TRIPP, FORMER POLICE COMMANDER, POLYGRAPH EXPERT: Well, Nancy, one thing that I have to point out here, this is all coming from her. She is saying that the police are happy. We`re not hearing that from law enforcement, we`re not hearing that from the polygraph examiner. So, you know, it`s her story and that`s what she`s telling.
GRACE: Well, hold on. Hold on just a moment.
To Christopher Cousins, "Bangor Daily News," it`s my understanding police were happy with the answers that they got from her and they have no intention of asking her any further questions, hooked up to a lie detector.
CHRISTOPHER COUSINS, REPORTER, BANGOR DAILY NEWS: I have to agree with your other guest, Nancy, all the information we know about the polygraph test is coming from Trista herself. The police investigators have not disclosed anything about either polygraph test, citing the ongoing investigation.
GRACE: I`m glad to hear that, Christopher Cousins. Is that your understanding, John DePetro?
DEPETRO: It is, Nancy. What`s interesting, though, is they certainly don`t seem to focus on her. And from day one, if you remember, she just stayed away from the scene. She so far has not seemed to be a focus in any way of the investigation.
GRACE: Well, you know what, you guys are right. I stand corrected. Police have not stated they were happy with the results of her lie detector.
Ellie Jostad, have they made any plans to re-perform the tests?
ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE CHIEF EDITORIAL PRODUCER: Nancy, they wouldn`t tell us anything about polygraphs, planned polygraphs, taken polygraphs in regards to Trista Reynolds, the mom. They just would not comment.
GRACE: And what we`ve learned about the father, basically, is what he himself has blurted out.
Out to the lines, John in Massachusetts. Hi, John, what`s your question?
JOHN, CALLER FROM MASSACHUSETTS: Hi, Nancy, how you doing today?
GRACE: Good.
JOHN: All right. Well, I have two questions for you, and first of all, I think she needs to have the polygraph done again. That`s baloney. But my two questions are, why do you think she didn`t finish the polygraph? And is there any documented proof of this medical condition that she supposedly has?
GRACE: Good question. What do we know about it, John DePetro?
DEPETRO: We don`t, Nancy. Just that she said there was a medical condition and that she was unable to finish the polygraph.
GRACE: OK, Woody, what type of medical condition would arise midstream in a poly that would cause cops to stop the test?
TRIPP: Well, that`s just it, Nancy. When we start a polygraph, pre- interview, we get those questions answered. That`s the whole point of the pre-test interview. We discuss mental conditions, we discuss physical conditions, we discuss medical conditions before we ever get started.
And let me also point this out. We don`t render a verdict on a polygraph examination midway through it. There is a series of tests that we conduct, a minimum of three, as part of the examination. So saying that they stopped it in the middle, but that they`re OK and everything`s hunky-dory is absolutely bull. We don`t do that. We don`t render a verdict midway through an exam. It just doesn`t happen. So, again, it`s her story, she`s telling it. But it is her story.
Am I the only one with an urge to send a care package of teeth whitening products to John P?
ReplyDeleteNot nice. *go to time out*
Deletenice nothing! if his teeth were any more yellow with decay, I don't see how. maybe a little less blogging and a little more crest toothpaste ...just saying...
DeleteI'll have to add his 'accomplishment' to my olympic blogger awards. lol.not to mention how many long distance chatter boxes over at U4A would fail their drug tests...
What is with the pro-Trista crowd? I'm acquainted with a few people who think Justin is guilty, and every last one of them are low class people with filthy mouths. It's like they know how messed up their own lives are, so they grab their pitchforks & join their kind in order to target someone, accusing him of unthinkable crimes against his daughter so they feel special & less pathetic. Maybe they're attempting to make up for their own bad choices...or something. Whatever the twisted reason for it, I can't help but see a trend.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it not important the the only person releasing information (second and third hand information, not confirmed by any objective third party) is a credible source of information??? That kinda stuff is extremely important in a court of law. Duh.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe I'd want a camera in my face all the time if one of my children was missing. I can only imagine what Justin is feeling also (there seems to be a ton of support for Trista already)
And if some blogger actually took money for her personal utilities because she was "working for Ayla" and then dogged the same person that helped her publicly. I just don't know what to say about that. I hope it was paid back.
Obscure, this is what I keep thinking. Not only Jeff, but Trista as well. In their zeal to convict in the court of public opinion, they are handing reasonable doubt to any future real-life defence. It begs the question...are they that stupid or that guilty of something themselves?
DeleteVery good question more questions.
DeleteThe reason I was asking Obscure the question about Justin bolting is because, I asked questions last night and feel I got an honest answer from Obscure. I would like Obscure to respond please.
ReplyDeleteI cannot answer this for you. I have heard conflicting reports-and neither has been confirmed or denied to my knowledge, or to me personally.
DeleteAll I can do is speculate about this, but I don't believe it to be true. It doesn't really make sense, considering the fact that he continued to cooperate with LE after that point. If he ran, he could have gotten a lawyer and ceased working with them. he did not. He went and continued to answer questions.
My $.02
Thank you Obscure. Wouldn't it be safe to assume if he had, they would have stopped him or even detained him for further questioning?
DeleteJustin did not bolt from police station. He continued answering questions for quite awhile. He did eventually tell them he was done after they continued asking the same questions over and over and then started telling him Ayla was probably dead and he told them that was not an option for him. And he was not going to have the very people who he had to trust for information telling him that when it was not true. And if they had new questions for him he would be glad to answer them. So he was done for that day. He did go back again after that day several times.
DeleteAnon. 8:32,
DeleteI'm not Obscure, but No, I don't think LE could have stopped Justin from leaving or detained him. He was not under arrest.
Anon. 11:02,
I believe your account...because it makes perfect sense, given what I know about LE, their techniques, and this case.
Right...from all that I know, I'd say Justin was free to come and go as he pleased.
DeleteJustin was free to come and go as he pleased that is correct.
DeleteI asked Obscure because of other questions I asked and feel she gave me honest answers. I would like Obscure to respond to the one about Justin bolting from police station please.
ReplyDelete@ Really,
ReplyDelete"I wonder if you have a link that could tell us who that statement is attributed to?"
Are you referring to this?
"did Justin really bolt from the police station when they showed him or told him about the blood found of Aylas"
I believe this comes from the article written by Michele McPhee, "Police Believe Maine Toddler Dead".
The article which McCausland stated was irresponsible, innaccurate and unattributed. In the article it states Justin Fled the police station when showed the luminol pictutres. Her source was unnamed LE.
That's the only reference I've ever seen.
S - thank you, I'll look for that article. I'd only seen mention of it on blogs. Someone commented that he was at the station quite awhile after being shown the images.
Delete"Multiple law enforcement sources also told Team 5 Investigates that Reynolds? father left the police station when he was shown crime scene photos of luminol-enhanced blood stains taken at the home."
DeleteRead more: http://www.wcvb.com/Blood-Found-Where-Missing-Maine-Toddler-Last-Seen/-/9849586/11256998/-/vy7bph/-/index.html#ixzz22aZJxvcz
@ Really?
DeleteThanks for the link. This is the same person who wrote the article that I mentioned, that McCausland called out. If i remember right, after being called out by McCausland, she changed the title to ..Hope Fades For Maine Toddler, she also changed a few other things in the article. In the original she used the word "fled", referring to Justin leaving the police station. She changed that word to "left".
I am starting to get the feeling that neither of the blogs have confirmed reports. Just hear say and innuendos, are there any facts really pointing at Justin or Trista? Both sides of the family are being accused and hammered on because of rumors started on the blogs. Is this really something that anyone is proud of? If the parents are not responsible for Ayla being missing,deceased,or kidnapped. How will everyone feel that accused them of the crime? How do you take the hurt back that you caused? I am sure an apology will not do it.
ReplyDeleteRumors? Where? O_o
DeleteHere and u4a they think Justin is guilty because someone said Justin bolted. People here think Trista took Ayla and lies about everything. Where is there any proof?
DeleteTrista's lies are not rumors
DeleteTrista's finger pointing is not a rumor and the fact that Justin himself has not ever done the same to her. Trista HAS done that herself not just done by bloggers.
DeleteJustin does no finger pointing because there is no one but himself to point at and he is too much of a coward to do that. JMO
DeleteIDK I am not Justin so I would and can have to disagree with you there. Just look at the list of family members and Trista herself. I don't know them personally but just what I read and see in the media makes me want to do a little finger pointing.
DeleteMichelle - sometimes I wonder if you are me. LOL
ReplyDeleteOkay. There is a reasonable explanation for all this. Here's my take:
ReplyDeleteLE asks Trista to keep the contents/details of the press conference under wraps until the PC is over, right?
Jeff comes home for lunch and learns all this. He IMMEDIATELY emails exlusive "blogger friends" because they deserve a 15-minutes heads-up before the PC.
Although Jeff and Trista know the PC is going to deliver very sad news, they invite the media into their home. They could have simply turned them away on short notice, requesting their privacy on the recent news delivered by LE.
Jeff feels the need to cite specifics in his exclusive email: the amount of blood and items recovered in the river. Two critical issues LE will not comment upon.
I went through my Pet-Co catalog today. There is a special on doggie muzzles...buy one, get one free. Think about it Jeff. The sale runs until August 15.
You're welcome.
The Dips must have gotten family deal back in early January on them muzzles..... They STILL have theirs on tho.....LOL... smh
DeleteI'll take muzzled Dipietro's any day over the lie spewing Reynolds clan.
Delete@ Michelle and Space... really? EVERY one of them? Across the board with no exceptions?? Wow. Well perhaps one of the problems is that anyone who is pro-Ayla but believes Justin knows something has been labeled pro-Trista. So that adds about 30% to the 50% that are truly pro-Trista, and we have 80% of the Ayla following population as low class, filthy mouth pitch fork carrying losers. Best I leave you superior 20% to your "conversations" that are so clearly helpful.
ReplyDeletePut your pitchfork down & re-read my post. I said the people I KNOW, the ones I'm acquainted with personally. I don't hang out with them... I just know them on some level. You know, like my own personal perspective? Perhaps it's anecdotal, but I can't ignore it! So I posted it. Apparently I'm not alone.
ReplyDelete@space, there are a number of posters here that remind me of myself, in thought & writing style. It's no wonder "they" think we're a couple of people conversing with ourselves, lol!
ReplyDeleteCharlie - she said every one of the few people she is acquainted with that think Justin is guilty - and I can relate to that. I most always say "some" when I am referring in general to things being said. But I can tell you "all of them at JSTL" have been included in horrible descriptions MANY times. Do you speak up then?
ReplyDeleteSpace, I have to admit I do not always comment on those kinds of posts on other blogs, primarily because I haven't been on them much. I am frustrated by the sweeping generalizations, and have been relatively quiet for that reason. The post started with "What's with the pro-Trista crowd" and ended with "I can't help but but see a trend." With that kind of intro and exit, the stuff in between feels somewhat irrelevant. Add to this the fact that I can't remember the last time I've read a Blog post anywhere that has not been aimed solely at slamming other bloggers/commenters, and I find myself reacting. Now be rest assured, I've dismantled my soap box, and I put my pitch fork down long ago... (shortly after I got my GED and entered the great big world of Tractor repair).
ReplyDeleteDid the funny farm finally lock up Grace?
ReplyDeleteOMG! This is so hilarious! NOT!
DeleteHey anon, STFU.
Deletethey're coming for you grace
DeleteIgnoring the entire bit on John P, simply because it literally has nothing to do with anything, I was curious about the piece on Trista "inviting" the media in for an interview. Remember way way back, when the "abduction" first took place, Phoebe invited CNN into her home to talk about that night, knowing full well she would be asked specifically about that night, and she was not there. Further, she knew she would mislead CNN and not indicate that she was not there. I am curious why so many people or so willing to just accept this, but completely fall apart when Trista makes almost the EXACT same mistakes. Both claimed they weren't sure how to handle questions based on LE telling them to keep certain things to themselves. We haven't seen just one posting on Trista's error, we've seen many... and they keep on coming. Phoebe's indiscretion is just a thing of the past? A grieving grandmother who should not be held accountable? Why are these kinds of things so easily overlooked? Can we move on to relevant things, such as things that actually have something to do with Ayla missing? What about the items found in the river... one set has been cleared, one has not. Theories? What about eye witness accounts of a woman handing a baby off to a couple of men? Anything there? Does Bob Vear know something? I think most logical thinking people could give a crap about most of what's being discussed, which has literally NOTHING to do with Ayla.
ReplyDeleteI pretty much agree with you IsthisCharlieSheen. With any discussions related to missing children (or crimes in general), there seem to be few people that are neutral and want to discuss reasonable theories. It bugs the heck out of me when people come up with theories with no logical details. For me to believe a theory, there has to be every detail thought out from start to finish and fit in the timeline. I have not seen that with the Ayla case nor the baby Lisa case, which are the only two I follow (thank goodness).
DeleteWithout more reliable information, we can only take wild ass guesses as to what happened. In answer to your statement about Phoebe and the interview...yes, I think it was rather dumb of her to grant one and...yes it makes her look just as bad (if not worse) than Trista. In fact, it makes the three in the house that night look bad, because it should have been one of them that spoke with CNN.
I don't know why we haven't heard more about the first items found in the river. Does Trista know what they are? I don't think we've heard, have we? I certainly do not think anyone planted items in the river, and I've heard that said.
I'm still having a hard time believing all three of them were involved and if only one is, then I am having trouble believing the other two are covering for that person. Where my opinion differs from other regulars on this blog is that I believe Ayla is dead. With very rare exceptions, I believe most missing children are dead.
Charlie, we had quite a bit of discussion regarding Phoebe's interview. Perhaps you missed it? Phoebe made little comment about that night "it was a normal night," "there was no party," "I didn't hear anything." She seemed reluctant to answer, but the things she stated were things she believed to be true. The next morning she explained to Susan Candiotti that she was not there, she explained where she was which LE knew, Susan verified that with LE. Phoebe couldn't handle that she'd misled anyone, but wasn't clear that the "do not divulge info" from LE had been retracted.
DeleteTrista can lie, creating entire stories on the spot, which are totally untrue. She also said she was nowhere near Waterville when Ayla went missing. Her comments after the press conference were made up. She didn't think she was saying the truth.
When you use EXACT, that is a sweeping generalization... these are all individuals, and it requires looking a lot deeper than just the surface. Those incidents are not the same.
In order to discuss Ayla, the people around her need to be discussed. Seriously, what can be said about Ayla? She's an innocent, beautiful blue-eyed, blonde-haired baby girl who's been missing since December 17th. LE consistently refuses to release any solid information. We're left to speculate, and try to back that up with known facts.
The items in the river are a concerning point. They've cleared the 2nd items, won't elaborate on the first other than to say that most of the work being done at the crime lab on this case is on those items. (from pc) Eye witness accounts - since that came from 2 different sources, one would assume LE looked into it and found that it was someone else. I don't think Bob Vear knows anything of value in this case.
Bob Vear's only part in this, is that he wants some part of the lime light. I have a feeling there are a few around like that. He tried at every turn to be a part of everything...calling the news media and talking with them about shit he didnt have a clue about. He kept pushing me to give him family numbers. I finally told him that I would relay the message and walked away.
DeletePhoebe's reaction when I told her was, "Good." as she rolled her eyes and shook her head.
Well thanks Really?, pretty much what I would have said on all counts.
Delete@ Really, no I didn't miss it. My point was that we act the same toward some people as we complain about others being treated. I also do not think comparing 2 peoples actions, and just those 2 is a generalization at all. Both woman agreed to an interview when they should not have. Both woman misled the reporter in their reactions and answers (Trista took it a step further after the piece by literally saying LE did not call her, and that is definitely a difference). @ Bystander, you raise a very good point; that Phoebe was the person who sat for the interview and not anyone who was in the house is perhaps more telling. To All, I am sorry if I bring up things you've already discussed in regard to Ayla, but I do find it helpful (for me), and preferable over discussing the condition of someone's teeth.
DeleteHere are my thoughts with items in the river belonging to Ayla. If God forbid someone took Ayla and killed her and dumped her in the river it seems to me this would prove a stranger abduction. It would have to be someone that did not know about the dam or how the river flows in that area. If they believe Justin had concocted this elaborate plan to get rid of Ayla as many on the other blog have discussed then knowing where the dam is located, how the river flows, and how high and raging it gets in the spring he would definitely dump her after the dam. There are many spots along the river that could happen after the dam. There was an accident in Fairfield this year that a lady crashed her car into the river in Fairfield and it took days to find her. This is after knowing where the car went in. The odds of anything Ayla related being found in the exact location LE first decided to search would be slim to none in my opinion.
DeleteFor those of you who are not from the area this river is huge. It is a very powerful river especially after a spring thaw or heavy spring rains. http://www.panoramio.com/photo/64278199
I know this is sort of random thoughts but since I do not know what happened I can not possibly put them all together.
@Charlie - I saw one anon comment about teeth. It's not like the blog was trending in the direction of J4A's countless comments about Phoebe's teeth and Elisha's weight, etc. Did John participate or condone such commentary on the blog? Probably, but I don't care enough to look it up. Did someone create a blog specifically to insult this blogger and when they found someone they thought was her did several people participate in insulting comments? I hope your voice of reason was amongst that crowd telling people to smarten up.
DeleteI do not believe for an instant that Justin ever planned to harm Ayla, as crazyman Hyatt and some other malicious bloggers have contended.
DeleteIt makes no sense at all that he would plan to move home to his mother's house so he could kill his daughter in his mother's home. What kind of plan is that? No one planning such a crime would ever MOVE TO the crime scene, and give up his other residence in a different county. It would seem to me that any plan, if one existed, would be just the opposite. The perp would want to commit the crime in one location, dispose of the body in that area, and then move to a location that could not be tied to the crime in any way.
The fact that Justin gave up his other residence and moved to his mother's home is one of the many factors that convince me he was not involved in any intentional harm of Ayla.
@Really, why is there a POST about John P at all? forget the comments section. I don't have a voice of reason, wouldn't you agree?
Delete@Concetta, whatever did happen, I tend to agree there was probably not a plan on Justin's part. I also don't think there was a plan on Trista's part. Or Jeff's part. Or Lance's part. Or Elisha's part. Or Jessica's part. Or Courtney's part. I think it's POSSIBLE there was a "plan" on someone's part, but I even question that. I think, more likely, there was a cover up on someone's part. I think there are individuals who know things and if they told LE, Ayla would be found (in whatever condition she is in) by now. Unfortunately it does not matter what I believe.
@ Charlie - I wouldn't call that a POST about JohnP - more like a P.S. - and what was said in the P.S. wasn't inflammatory. I assume he must be ok with the picture as Obscure must have found it online.
DeleteI can say I don't always agree with everything Obscure does, but I am not her and this is her blog. I know it would have to take a strong person to do what she does. I don't know how I would react if a group of people aimed at taking me down (trying to find out who I was so they could call my boss, family, send me threats, etc.) because I had a different opinion their own. I am grateful for her work on this, and for having a place to come to discuss Ayla where I'm not told, as though it were fact, what happened to her.
@IsthisCharlieSheen? This is going to sound somewhat hypocritical and there is guesswork involved - I made a comment above about Phoebe's interview. I believe LE got wind that an interview was going to happen and that's when I think LE told them not to talk. I imagine that it would've made a great deal of sense for Justin to do the interview but after being told "not to talk" Phoebe decided to do the interview instead not really knowing what questions would be asked. I think its obvious why she lied - she was told that the details of the case shouldn't be discussed and therefore blundered when asked about that night. Her mind would've been in a state of disbelief. How do you answer any question when suddenly nothing makes any sense? I give credit to Phoebe for her bravery in correcting her lie publicly.
DeleteIn the lies that I've seen Trista tell, I don't think I've seen her once publicly correct herself. I've seen her respond differently to the same questions asked in different interviews, and these are classical signs of a pathological liar. Unfortunately a person who feels the need to lie stems from feeling unsafe in their surroundings and usually begins in childhood. Understanding her history gives you a better glimpse into why Trista is the way she is. Its very sad. I hope she pulls herself out of that lifstyle for the sake of her son. JMO.
@ Lucifer, points taken on your comments. The only thing I could question really is why Phoebe's grief should be considered greater and a more acceptable reason for bad choices than for the mother of Ayla. It's obvious Phoebe was confused in in a tough spot when answering the questions because she would have known deep down that it would eventually be outed as misleading/lying, so not all that much credit can be given for her coming out the next day. That said, I suspect there were circumstances as to why it happened. I would also think that if LE said "be quiet" and that made Justin feel like he couldn't give the interview, that same sentiment would have/should have extended to Phoebe.
DeleteI get some of this, some of it not so much. It probably was too early for any of them to be giving interviews, but that can't be changed now. I wouldn't say that Phoebe "lied" - I saw that she seemed uncomfortable and was trying to be evasive about those questions, and what she said was what she believed to be true. It was confirmed by LE and Susan Candiotti that Phoebe's whereabouts had been known from the beginning. The big difference I see is this, think about Trista's interview after the pc... Phoebe did not say "oh, we had a great night, we made lasagna for dinner and then I read the babies a story while the kids cleaned the kitchen, and then I tucked Ayla in for the night before I went out." She didn't make up a story on the fly. If someone can and is willing to do that so easily, how honest have they been with LE all along? You mentioned previously about if your child was missing what you would want. God forbid if that happened, would you make up stories and spread lies, making the case more complicated for people? I don't see how that helps, and I don't feel that it's attributed to or excused by grief.
Deletea couple other things - re: the press conference lie - Jeff told people in that email not to say anything about it until after the press conference - clearly he didn't talk to MSP, Trista did, and must have relayed that information to him - so he can he say SHE misunderstood if SHE is the one who told him and he understood it correctly? Why would she lie after the pc when specifically asked about McCausland's statement? It seems she wanted it to appear to the reporters there they she didn't know what he was going to say. Even though it's an issue that can easily be proven false, she lied anyway. I've known a few people like that. Seriously, a person who will lie like that can lie about anything, and often does. Why would a mother lie about things when her baby is missing? Does she have something to hide? If one wants to say it's her grief, or her illness, or her using, or whatever... the motivation may be different, but it's still the same result, you can't believe what's being said.
DeleteRe: Phoebe's interview - a quick observation - she spoke of Ayla in the present tense and she "called out" for her.
@Space you lost me a little bit at the end of you comment from 12:12, but I understand some of what you're saying in the 16:16. That said, I still don't think I can wrap my head around Trista being able to abduct Ayla and have this go on for 7 months. No matter what she is using, saying, doing, looking - no matter the inconsistencies now... I just don't see her pulling it off. Not saying Justin is the one who did either, but I do feel he knows something that, if shared truthfully with LE, would lead to her whereabouts. He might very likely be hurting quite a bit, but he might also be staying quiet so he doesn't trip up and provide more info than he intends. We just don't know - none of us do no matter how close anyone is to him. Same goes for her... I am an equal opportunity skeptic.
Delete@IsthisCharlieSheen? - good comments and excellent questions.
ReplyDelete'Velvet Glove' made a comment about Trista's activities that strikes a familiar chord - cameras following the Irwin family around for trick-or-treating. ABC follows Trista around? There is a filming deal? If so, they're interacting in her everyday life and plan to pawn it off as Reality TV. There's nothing real about being choreographed for the camera. Candid Camera used to stage for a reaction, too; not so real.
I saw something (:you knew this was coming:). When Phoebe accepted the missing poster that was created (free of charge), the presenter told Phoebe that she should smile, show her appreciation for receiving Ayla's poster. Now, I look at the comments on this blog about that particular photo, and I want to yell about it. I want to open my window and scream at the world. They took a photo with Phoebe holding the missing poster, appearing naturally as what one might think of as an upset, grieving grandmother. Where is that photo now?
posted by pogamen 8/6/2012
Pogamen said...
Delete"the presenter told Phoebe that she should smile, show her appreciation for receiving Ayla's poster. Now, I look at the comments on this blog about that particular photo, and I want to yell about it. I want to open my window and scream at the world"
I certainly understand your feelings here. I could do the same thing,..not even knowing that someone ask her to smile.
I didn't know someone asked her to smile either, how did you come into that info? It is definitely unfortunate. I wonder how many other unfortunate things other people have done for similar reasons.
Deletewhat a broken record.
ReplyDeleteWeirdman can't get his fake stories published in Main Stream Media so EXACTLY like his fabled cuppa blood, he gets some click-for-bucks bloggers who exploit missing children as cash cows to do his dirty work for him by quoting HIS blog.
CBG does nothing but regurgitate the Reynold's lies. she is a laughing stock, her credibility is nil..same as the other two loser wannabees who pimp missing child cases for their own PROFIT!
her c an p on dna recovery was embarrassing. she couldn't even be bothered to learn a thing about the subject or to draw any relevancy to Jeff's idiotic conclusions.
whoever listens to these hucksters, liars and scumbags is as nutzo and sleazy as they are.
the lady who wrote the retracted Boston media story that Ayla was dead is a shock jock, trained as a hack for a tabloid and a consultant for Lifetime Movies.
the list goes on..everybody has their hand out, looking for fame, influence or cha ching, it is beyond repulsive.
even LB and her 'green light' makes me sick..playing the victim, pushing propaganda, creating drama, allowing hate speech and too stupid to connect the dots. it makes her feel important and useful, the same as John P..(both not the brightest bulbs and that's putting it kindly), marginalized nobodies finally in a position where (equally dimwitted) people turn to them for information and advice. and they gobble up the attention and flattery don't they?
obscure is the ONLY blogger who is anonymous and gains nothing but grief and harassment for her OLYMPIAN efforts for Ayla.
Enablers4Trista stop people from searching for Ayla every chance they get.
WeirdStepdadman needed an immediate, huge distraction to point attention away from his money-making schemes with his fugitive blog mistress. this fairy tale about the dna is supposed to fit that bill.. EPIC FAIL.
the searches of the river (in my opinion) are simply mock exercises for certifications, pay raises and budgetary-driven agendas. they are not looking for Ayla, they are using her as a pawn to justify the enormous funds needed to upgrade Maine LE agencies to modern CSI equipment and training standards. many people are aware of this, but they are all on the payroll or will directly benefit..
i believe that IF any items were found, they were planted by a certain looney tunes vigilante to stir the pot and drum up some news when Ayla's case is going stone cold.
it's also possible that Jess made such a fuss over buying the pjs because if they were found, there would be no explanation were her dna found on them, since Phoebe has stated she is the purchaser and Jess never came in contact with them.
we can't tell what is true or not at this point since there is still no evidence being released.
but that doesn't stop the enablers from literally muddying the waters.
means to an end is the U4$ mantra for very good reasons; they will stoop to anything.
MSP needs to end this farce, they are losing credibility every day as they allow these shenanigans to continue.
@velvet- I share your theory about the pjs. On a related note, does anyone remember what Jeff said about Ayla's stuffed dog?
DeleteJeff said "it was lost awhile back when she was living with Trista"
Delete@ more questions - I believe the dog was lost in Lewiston before Ayla went with Justin.
DeleteIm pretty sure that Jeff said it did not go to Justin's with Ayla in Oct. I can't remember for sure why, but it seems like he said it was lost before then.
Delete@velvet glove
DeleteGreat post. Phoebe told me the stuffed dog didnt make it to the house. It was lost when Jess and Trista moved from Lewiston to South Portland...AYLA had the puppy on the very first times that Justin had her to visit. She was just getting to know all the people in the family. That is why you see her with the puppy in the photos released. When Justin went with the Lewiston police the puppy had already been misplaced.
Thanks everyone. I knew Jeff had a story about it being lost, but I was trying to recall exactly what he said. Thanks, Selena, for confirming that the puppy was lost before Justin went with police to Lewiston.
DeletePeter Hyatt wrote in his blog that he received "well wishes" from the DiPietros and said he would update later. Then he removed it.
ReplyDeleteVery odd.
Agreed!
DeleteObscure time to put up a new post.
ReplyDeletehttp://gracewilsonastrology.com/horary-question-does-jeff-own-jstl-blog-too/ LOLOLOL
ReplyDeleteo.O
DeleteGrace is truly nuts.
DeleteNow Grace that is funny. Obscure is far more intelligent than Jeff could ever hope to be.
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